Extremus

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Maybe it's just me sucking, or is the Nin/Nin stalker -really- sucky at low level?

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Most Def sets are, I know I felt the pain on my EA Stalker and my SR Scrapper. Def really shines when you get multiple shields/SO's, nothing like beating on a mob and hardly being hit while your res based friend starts screaming for heals.

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My 'character was never meant to tank'? I dont remember saying that was what i wanted, merely that i could - pointing out the in game chnages. Furthermore i am talking about personal defense and have been since i started the thread. Get off your high horse people im talking from experience not ignorance. If you cant engage in debate, dont reply.

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We are also speaking from experience.

Fact is, you stated that you 'used to be able to hold all aggro and not get a scratch', and you should still be able to without issue. I've seen other FF users do it, and with the right buffs my Stalker can pretty much do it (with less def than PFF mind).

And MaX is right, after the GDN +Def sets have had some loving.

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Why am I not on there?

Decibellion, Sonic/Sonic defender.

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Because Sonic Defenders DON'T EXIST, damnit!

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because you have to show them all.

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what if you dont have any? or havent got full trays? or say that you havnt got full trays?

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Then buy some - even if you don't use them just to show that the slots are taken up.

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Then when you've used them, get a friend to give you the extra large ones.

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Or just pull a quick trade before you start the fight?

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I honestly dont know what evidence you are basing this 'the defense is better than ever' on? My bubbler is 40, i started him in Nov 05 and only use him now and again. This has given me plenty of first hand experiance of the changes implemented over time and i know for a fact that he has less defense. If you are simply going off the statistics of the new defense cappabilities i can understand, however in actual practise my toon is getting killed far too easily - he used to be able to hold all aggro and not get a scratch, now even aid-self cant rescue him.

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Your character was never meant to tank, and yes, Defense is better than ever. Against high level enemies. Me EA Stalker is a lot safer against +3's and +4's now, I don't get hit as often. Your own defense from your shields isn't as good as the single target buffs you've got for other players.

If you're talking about PFF, it's still stupidly good. Unless you're fighting Nemesis.

I second this and would like something like it stickied.

This is an MMO, designed for teaming, and as fun as solo PvP can be, it's so much better in teams.

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What ex said, its one of the biggest playstyle differences between the good PvPers and the bad.

The good ones move, the bad ones stand there and get hit in the face.

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Or taken down in base raids with just brawl. \o/

Movement is still one of the best survival tools in PvP and PvE.

Squishies, squishies, squishies!

I on many occasions have sat in the water near the oil rig platform thingies with a team and dropped villains coming straight at us.

Of course, considering they can quite easily go round the side (or Fly High if they've Fly), it's quite a bit different compared to TP'ing people out the Hero Hospital.

If Defense worked against Hamidon, I'd of expected there to have been at least one Perma-Elude raid (back when you could perma it of course) or a Vengeance Stacking one in the US (again, before that was changed).

I'm tempted to enter my Blaster, with the right slotting I can stack almost as fast as a 'troller.

However, I know exactly how quickly a 'troller can stack, and if you consider there duration, it's a bogus rule. At least in my opinion.

With Power Boost Xanthus can quite easily stack 9 holds on my in about 45 seconds, that's without his Singularity churning them out as well.

If you want 'balance' when it comes to Hold>BF Ratio's, simply have a quick fight with Xan (Or Imaginary) in the Arena and you'll see how little BF's can mean.

Yeah, you get that. I was in Sirens the other night, I logged on to Teamspeak and got the call that we were needed there so my SG actually decided to pop in, see what the fuss was.

There were a good 7-15 Villains right outside the freaking Hero base TP'ing people out one-by-one for a ganking.

Naturally we buffed up, all rushed out and wiped them, pushing them back to the water. Then we got told we were no skill gankers that need to get a life.

Awesome, really.

I would never, under any circumstance, drop RA.

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... and has longer recharge and greater endurance usage. Different strokes for different folks.

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Yup, I love my Kat/DA Scrapper, and although I do wish I could one shot a minion without a Crit/Build Up, I much prefer having not only an attack chain, but manageable Endurance and flashy moves!

I understood the PFF changes (2min Cool Down etc) where MM only?

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Another thing that annoys me. People who go to PvP zones to do missions, and then complain if people kill them! By doing missions they affect the PvP in the zone, so they're valid targets.

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I'm not sure every player who does a PvP mission is aware that they are helping or hindering the other players in the zone.

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Not only does it quite clearly state it in the mission text that it will buff/debuff a side, but the confirmation click actually mentions that you WILL come in to contact with PvP.

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You're not allowing for those who click "ok" without ever reading what they're agreeing to

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Then it's there own God damn fault for ignoring what has been put in place by the Dev's, on our suggestion, to make it clear that a PvP Zone has *gasp* PvP!

Unthinkable really, PvP in a PvP zone? Silly rubbish, that.

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Another thing that annoys me. People who go to PvP zones to do missions, and then complain if people kill them! By doing missions they affect the PvP in the zone, so they're valid targets.

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I'm not sure every player who does a PvP mission is aware that they are helping or hindering the other players in the zone.

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Not only does it quite clearly state it in the mission text that it will buff/debuff a side, but the confirmation click actually mentions that you WILL come in to contact with PvP.

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is it possible??

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Yes. My build is Min/Max'd for PvP. As support.

I would never, ever recommend an Empathy Defender to try a build geared to Offence, the reason others (Kin, Rad etc...) can is because they lean heavily on the buff self/debuff enemy action, Empathy doesn't.

If you want to take on a Blaster, roll anything but an Empathy Defender.

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I like the part about PVP not being fair the best. The trick to PVP is making the unfair part not happen to you, but to your opponent .

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1: I see a Stalker!
2: Where?!
1: There, THERE!
2: Got him, he's trying to kill that Controller
1: FFS!
2: The hell hit you?
1: Stalker saw me coming. :<

Though in actuality if we see a stalker, we usually just kill him. Especially in Sirens where we can do it in two or so hits and don't have things like Retsu to contend with.

When exemplaring down on Extremus I've always felt considerably more viole-... powerfull than any other toon actually at that level.

Back in the Pre-ED days, I remember basically one-shotting mobs at around level 16 (exemp from 50) to help out an SG mate clear a hunt mission a bit above him.

Not sure on the state now, from what I've read the Enh's are being a bit hinky. But there's always been speed/efficiency drop off with powers as most scale with level. The biggest being Fly.

Right on Night.

Nothing wrong with new players trying PvP, I encourage and I'm more than willing to chat with them and offer the odd bit of advice etc... But I really hate this no Inspiration rubbish, if it wasn't for BF's all we'd ever see in PvP would be Dom's and Cont's for christs sake.

'I prefer to to fight with just my powers'. Well, that's all grand, but you can't say that and complain when I two shot you on my Blaster.

A Dominator needs Domination up to be 'uber', granted. But they can still stack enough Immobs quickly to stop a Scrapper in there tracks, which'll also give them a heft Dom boost. And it's two Holds w/Domination to go over a BF, so it's not like getting round that is hard if you keep moving.

But you know the thing I hate most?

People that sit in the safe zone, not fighting, and just wait for things like Elude to come up then jump out. But of course, if you start doing damage, or they get debuffed *BAM*. Back in the safe zone. Well, that or they pop at least 5 respites when I throw an attack chain in to them that would floor any scrapper without heals, run to the safe zone and claim that they never use insps and proceed to call me a liar.

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Um following the post I7 changes I dont know of any team that managed to beat an AV without some form of -regen

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I'm going to do a few with my SG tonight, just to prove you wrong!

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That was last night, so how did it go?

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I think we ended up in PvP Zones. Again. Damnit.

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Oh hey, two Defenders and one Controller.

Balance for the win.

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Wouldn't that be 3 defenders? 2 emps and 1 storm?

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Very good point, I was relying on information said on TeamSpeak. Upon further checking, we are indeed fielding a team of Three Defenders.

Woo.

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Are you changing the plan at all for the AV buffs at all? Or are Mitos different?

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The Mitos aren't classed as AVs anymore so afaik the recent changes haven't affected them (still have the same number hps as before)

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Well Afaik the GMs seem affected as well.. ALthough we propably will have enough debuffers to take down anything we need without much of a hitch.

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Since I5 (I think) Hami and his Mito's are classed differently all together. AV's have been buffed, so have GM's. But Hami's stats seem to be the same HP wise.

Unless they've changed his Hold Resistance, shouldn't be much different from the last raid.