Extremus

In PvP you need Heal and Range as a priority.

That Eden bug is new to me, last time I ran it the only thing that was bugged was the Ambrosia drop. Only those in range got any (one of us, the tank) and we only got one inspiration total. Luckily, we're good at what we do and took the Crystal Titan down in one Insps time limit with no deaths, but still, annoying.

Time before that though, worked fine. We rushed to do it one last time pre-I5. Good times... good times...

It's bugged afaik. It's set to Mag Stupid or something, quite a fuss in the US from what I hear.

Think it's a similar issue to the old Balista numbers, they've just set a decimal in the wrong place.

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Why is it that in a thread design to find people to join a Fire/Rad controller SG team do I have people:

Talking about /Kin
Criticising builds without checking or asking what the build is trying to achieve.
Challanging a team of low level toons to PVP without thinking to ask if the team is made for PVP.
And generally sounding like they have not actually read the post from the start.

Is this a attempt at trolling?
Are people trying to go some what off topic?
Did I make a error in thinking this server would have more understanding team players then Union?

I would like to think not but looking at threads like "The Gang" where players signed up, meet up and posted things like builds without outside criticism it makes me wonder.
While I have not posted it I have paid attention to all points made by those commenting and I have points to counter most if not all points made but I would rather discuss things like meeting times and such then have to explain every part of a build to people who aren't willing to even join the team.
I'm thankful to those who have been trying to give advice to help this team(Evil Bob/Cynic) but try to understand that I have a set plan and can justify all my choices and so far no one in the group has questioned those choices.

Those that have joined understand what style of play we are aiming for through playing with the team.
So to those who criticise please join us, team with us, if you still want to criticise after that then so be it.

I wonder if TopDoc the founder of Buffer overrun (US /Rad Controller/Defender SG) and the person I got the idea to do this from had this same problem?

Anyway I look forward to meeting up with those that have joined on Monday for some good old fashion fun.

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You misunderstand our intentions, the critiscism is meant to be constructive, many of us have played either Fire/ or /Rad in depth. I myself took part in an all /Rad Corrupter team, it was scary, but it had some serious issues when things like AM timing got messed up etc and there is heavy reliance with only teaming in said Rad team... You also mentioned a guide which has, in some of our opinions, holes in.

It was never my personal intention to belittle your team or what you are striving to achieve, and I don't think it was anyone elses. It seems that you've taken this personally because people have offered views that differ from your own, which in my opinion is fine considering this is an open forum. It was stated in this thread that you wanted to be a 'Super Team', to crush all PvE in your path with the utmost efficiency.

Is it so wrong that people offered advice to aid you in this task or pointed out apparent flaws in the guide that you appeared to be following? No, it's what these forums are for.

Oh, and it also doesn't help when someone arbitrarily states that they'll be ignoring all comments and advice posted simply because it doesn't match there own thoughts.

TG used Defiance for pure damage, with the change to one shotting I don't know how well that would work.

It also made him next to useless outside of Defiance Riding situations.

Personally I'd sacrifice Range for Damage, but that's me. Your powers look OK, try and get 2x Acc in Web Grenade. And how'd you manage to get an Acc in SS?

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This post is written in the knowledge that it will likely be ignored.

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It's all stuff Cerberus and I already know and have pre-planned so yeah, I for one will be ignoring it and other boring criticism I disagree with, in the hope to prevent debates. This thread is to recruit joiners to the Fire/Rad team, discuss meetings and has been a medium for displaying builds amongst ourselves. I know the build I want and will continue to ignore criticism, and make it known. I think thats fair.

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I challenge your Fire/Rad super team to a PvP match. Any team size, just be sure to get a few levels in first.

S'fine by me. I'll be logging in at about half 9.

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The best way to slot it is 3x tohit buff/defence buff/recharge HOs, but I only know of a few people with enough of those enhancements to actually do it.

Since I doubt you have the HOs, go with 3x recharge 3x defence. The base tohit puts you to the cap for anything up to about +7 enemies.

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Yup, I'd go 3x Recharge and 3x Defence.

Although I have it slotted: 3x h4x/ 3x Cheats/ 3x More h4x/3x Range. [img]/uk/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Edited for accuracy.

Also, 3x RecRed 3x Def. Unless you've HO's

I'll show.

Though I think 3vP has kinda run out of steam.

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I would also definately recommend picking up the leadership pool for acrobatics

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Nice one PN, nice one. [img]/uk/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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With just 4 stacks of AM End is not ever a problem if this went up to 6-8 then speed boast would not be needed even for its recharge.

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I've quite easily run through Reovery Aura. I tried 4 AM's (Defender, so better than the Cont version) and I ran through that just fine, too. Speedboost though, when slotted, I can usually hapilly run with just two and have NO end issues.

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Multiple AM plus hurdle and swift gives plenty of unsurpressed movement.

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Multiple AM is nice, but SB+IR give much better movement overall without the need to slot Hurdle/Swift any as it's good off the bat. Also, unsurpressed travel along mainly horizontal lines isn't good in PvP.

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While I disagree with it being totally unneeded as it can be used to help recover team mates endurance after a nuke
its not needed to stop end sapping mobs as AM greatly protects against this.


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since when has AM protected against a Malta Sapper or Recovered that much end when you really need it?

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I don't know the exact numbers, but Smoke Grenade isn't a huge debuff. Blasters aren't debuffers though, so that shouldn't come as any surprise - it's certainly not going to be anywhere near a Defender or Controller debuff. More of a nice little bonus to the -Perception.

[/ QUOTE ]Indeed, smoke grenade is only 5% nowdays. When the game launched, it used to be 50%, which meant /dev blasters were pretty much unstoppably, and fire/dev blasters used to hit 40 in a few days, solo.

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Back in t'day, when ye could happily mow down some +10's with ease.

ABU SUCKS, BOOO!

Great stuff man, keep up the TK'ing of Xanthus!

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Unfortunately all I got is lvl 31 stalker and lvl 20 robo/poison MM (who rocks btw). Im ready to play my villains but its the lvl difference..

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And that is why I'm on my Defender. My Stalker is at 34, my Brute at 32 and my Dominator at 17.

While I would like to play with them, the level and slotting differences will be an issue for me personally.

That and I want to get some more Base Raid experience on my Def.

@Extremus

Elerith - Emp/Dark Blast/PvP Pwnz0r Attitude

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Omega is without net conn for a bit. As far as I know he's not back yet so you may need to find a sub for him.

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I'm good any time and more than prepared to Sub in someone. Someone Blastery... and high ranking... *cough*

Edit: Well h4x, I'm probably not around in the weekend. Tonight or Tomorrow is good!

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Speaking of, we're tweaking a few things in our base right now, fancy another raid some time?

BUT, only as long as you don't pull a stunt like last time, half your guys got lost too! [img]/uk/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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Well im ready, but I have to ask the others.. Personally I want to be attacking now. Im just a bit jaded about the chances of getting Goonies raiding take off. [img]/uk/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Just come up with a date Ill try to make something happen.

ps. I knew that you had the advantage in open combat so I wanted to restrict movement.. plus I suspect you'd have eventually had trouble even finding the anchors (you found the only one that was in plain sight).

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Awesome! To be honest, we spent most of the time looking for eachother, not DA's. Xanthus kept getting so lost, and Imag just wanted to hit stuff he found.

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I agree, and due to the risks that defenders will be having in IoP raids (should we ever see them) the balance of power should be on defenders side in all honesty. The attackers risk nothing apart dying (and maybe debt from bugged turrets or something).

I still havent participated into mroe than one raid and it crashed though.. And that was when villains were 40..

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Speaking of, we're tweaking a few things in our base right now, fancy another raid some time?

BUT, only as long as you don't pull a stunt like last time, half your guys got lost too! [img]/uk/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

We've won against superior numbers before.

They are kinda tough, though.

To be honest, we were only there to kill Xanthus.

\o/

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No, no, you misunderstand. What I speculated in the other post was perhaps everyone had to get their 1 attack in at some point while he was below 50% or perhaps even 25% health in order to get credit. As it stands we all did it while he was at 100% and then the hold phase started with the rest of us withdrawn to outside the jelly. I'm wondering whether everyone who didn't receive an HO had only attacked him during that pre-hold phase (at ~100%), and everyone who did had snuck a hit or two in during the holding phase thus ensuring themselves credit.

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No. I Total Focus'd Hamidon just as the Brawl Phase started, being in the Tank Team I stayed in the bubble myself until the very end, and received my HO. It seems Timing is not the issue.

We do, however, have reports of some people being on Cowards Hill and receiving a HO. So it's pretty freaking weird.

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Although in our case Ext, we were on a team with controllers, and were standing close enough for the team kill to count.

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I'm pretty sure that some people on the edge of the bubble were teamed with people in the Hold Team/s and didn't receive a HO.

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No, no, you misunderstand. What I speculated in the other post was perhaps everyone had to get their 1 attack in at some point while he was below 50% or perhaps even 25% health in order to get credit. As it stands we all did it while he was at 100% and then the hold phase started with the rest of us withdrawn to outside the jelly. I'm wondering whether everyone who didn't receive an HO had only attacked him during that pre-hold phase (at ~100%), and everyone who did had snuck a hit or two in during the holding phase thus ensuring themselves credit.

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No. I Total Focus'd Hamidon just as the Brawl Phase started, being in the Tank Team I stayed in the bubble myself until the very end, and received my HO. It seems Timing is not the issue.

We do, however, have reports of some people being on Cowards Hill and receiving a HO. So it's pretty freaking weird.

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Raid was fun if a little disappointing/irritating to see no HO reward at the end of it, I'm another in the club of those who didn't receive one. I made doubly sure that I'd hit and caused damage and I actually used two seperate attacks which both registered to make sure, since Xanth stated no more than two hits would be necessary.

Have petitioned and bugged it, not very impressed with how erratic it is on the raid reward at all.

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This is NOT working as the last THREE raids we did succesfully. If they have indeed changed it, it's a stealth change and not Noted. If they haven't, it's bugged. The raid went ahead to the best of our knowledge and we apologise to those that didn't receive a HO.

We probably won't run another raid until we know how the HO drop works at the moment because asking people to take two hours out for an evening for no reward isn't fair.

Oh yeah, people that haven't received a HO go HERE !

WE AM PWNZ!

Seriously though, we do, totally.

And if people were on TS, Empath. :P