Extremus

I still want to do it (and I wasn't there, the shame), but seriously, I don't think it's worth it anymore. Union aren't even interested in doing theres.

Vote on it, I say quit. Sadly.

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Slight concern............ we seem to still have all those yellow death marbles that dropped at the end of the last raid

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We've three choices with the UBER MITO SPAWN OF DOOOOOM.

One: We can clear the ones in the center, ignoring those outside the bubble to one side. This will take some time, and we really, REALLY can't use AoE's or Cones, but it'd mean that PA dropping would be really easy (basically one spot to drop from). It would also take a while, and be very dangerous.

Two: We can wait until they despawn, which may be after monday if it's broken.

Three: We can lodge a support ticket if they're not despawned by the end of the week (fri/sat), because this most definitely is not WAI.

Personally, I think Two is the easiest option, One being the silliest (and possibly most fun) but may also cause mass debt, which'd suck for anyone under 50 that're fussed. Three may work, but to be honest, I don't think support would bring a zone down and then up again for a community raid.

I'm in, but you know that.

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Extremus explained about hover etc, but tahts used in pvp etc ALOT, pve you dont need to bother with it as you 'should' be capable to stay out of harms reach... if not your prolly blind

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So you wait and call for people to gather for Auras? You don't just jump in and buff the team? Psht.

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As for AB i DID say APART from the 3 recharge reductions it needs nothing else, default amount it recharges/heals/etc is enough to use the last 3 slots of 6 for something else

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Slotted AB performs a HELL of a lot better than unslotted, seriously. Not slotting it when you've blatantly got the slots, is stupid.

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AND for stam I said its NEEDED, you'll last longer if in large fights, or against ones that take ages to kill etc etc

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Not needed, won't last any longer with or without if you know what you're doing past SO level. Can quite easily run through an entire Invinc mission as an Emp without Stamina, buffing, healing, throwing some attacks around. All you need is your buffs and the rare CAB.

We didn't kill the stone tank enough.

You and me both, he knows about it, but I'll remind him again, and again, and again.

We still good for tomorrow?

I'd pay good Inf to see that fight.

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lots of tolgges + healing etc with no stam emp? ..

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Easy, I've done it in 6v6 PvP too, without End buffs.

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hasten bit late

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You don't need Hasten, it's just usefull in the later levels to get the big buffs up faster.

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ress personal preference = 3 recharge

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I don't want to be in a team that requires the Empath to slot Res for 3 recharge. Ever.

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why slot hover?

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Unsurpressed 360 degree movement is good, and it gives better End usage than Fly, and much better KB protection in that it doesn't push you as far.

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AB imo does fine with default heal/end/recharge without ahving to lose the 3 slots, that u can use elsewhere

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Slotted AB is probably the best single target buff in the game. +Recharge, +Recovery, +Regen, +Res (Slow). Throw in something like PBU and it's absolutely brilliant, especially in PvP. I despair when I get hit by an unslotted AB, it's just nowhere near as good.

But yes, each to there own I guess. Some of us like getting the best out of powers.

YAY RUM!

Brilliant stuff.

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The single target immob is essential for PvP for setting up containment on melee toons, but the AoE isn't essential and getting both certainly isn't. The end cost of the AOE is very high for what it does, and the only time you're likely to find it useful in PvP is against MMs.

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You can set up containment MUCH faster with both the immobs, which is your PvP bread and butter. Immobs are the best way to set up containment in PvP, so more is never bad. Never.

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And if you're arguing against a power pick, merely saying 'it's just bad' comes across as glib and dismissive rather than informed and persuasive.

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But it is. Pre-nerf, the toggle knocking meant it was very uefull in keeping yourself protected from certain things, as well as dropping travel powers off of people. The damage isn't very good, there's no toggle drops with it, and it's stationary. If you're just standing still not doing much (Oh hey, assasin strike) then I guess it'd be ok, but personally, movement is king in PvP, so it's not the best.

My two cents.

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At least there's a tiny glimmer of hope.

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The way he phrases it sounds like they will let it go live and after like 1 year they MAY change it back for devices..

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What, like toggle dropping? Yeah, right.

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Arctic air is good in pvp, but hurricane is better and the two don't work well together, as the 'cane will push them out of the AA. They both cost painfull amounts of endurance, and endurance management is the biggest problem for ice/storm in PVP, in my experience. In fact, slot for end reducers wherever you can.

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Most people have knockback resistance in PvP (they'd better!) so that isnt that much of an issue

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I can run up and get a melee hit on someone running Hurricane as long as i get a small run up, no sprint, no superspeed, just one SO in swift.

Both days, both days!

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Paragon Defenders are in. Oh yes we are.

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Kekekekekeke [/serious statement]

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Funny how alot of these names mentiond here got pwned in Warburg by a 3 defender and 2 blaster team - even with greater than 2-1 odds against!


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eerrr u were in a 5 man team in warburg with 3defenders and 2 blasters and u speak like thats a bad thing?! my empath and gatling can clear warburg so 3 defenders and 2 blasters shud be unstoppable...

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QFT, same with myself and Imag in the day, Blaster/Defender combo is nasty.

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I'll be there with Empath. If you need any healers for the tank team, let me know. I'd be happy to help.

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ARGH, DEFENDER. YOU'RE A FREAKING DEFENDER, NOT A HEALER, BURN THE HERETIC!

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Ah, but in this case a healer is what is needed. Not some crappy debuffer. *ahem*

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Debuffing is VICTORY!

Yeah, it's a joke, considering our servers probably hit 200-300 people, you'd of thought there'd be some PvP around in the Arena, or good action in the zones, but no. It's not encouraged y'see.

iPod Nano's, wasn't it?

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I'll be there with Empath. If you need any healers for the tank team, let me know. I'd be happy to help.

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ARGH, DEFENDER. YOU'RE A FREAKING DEFENDER, NOT A HEALER, BURN THE HERETIC!

It's all a bit of a silly situation, seeing as EU (higher tier) PvP is pretty much gone.

I'll be there with my Controller, but am happy to spend the first half on Elerith in the Tank Team if needed.

=o

The big 50! 'bout time, nub.

Earlier than 8 pliz!

I'll drag my Controller along for non-running Raid's (IE; not by PD's and co.)