Evil_Legacy

so much for those standards.


But then again, this poster could work with a variety of things everything from people who is blipping about NCSoft, who blipping about the people not against ncsoft, the people that is blipping about the people that are blipping about those people not against ncsoft, the people that are blipping just to be blipping, the people that are blipping because their game is dead, the people thta blipping because the game was still alive, the people that blipping because they no longer have anything to blip about after Nov 30th, and people that blip about how some people dont have the standards that the they dont follow themselves.

What I noticed though is that "********" here is just another term for a complaining about something that a person is not currently also complaining about because of course when they do complain, it's always a good reason to complain but never good reason for someone else to.

lmao. damn. Buddy has a long way to go.

ah I see.

Well I think the only near universal saying in the world is Ok. The rest depends on the area.

Ever heard of the saying "Haare auf die Zähnen haben" or in English "Have hair to the teeth"? Maybe you have, but no one here in El Paso ever heard of the term even though it's a very famous quote in Germany, and the english version have been heard by everyone I knew in St Louis, MO. Chicago, Atlanta, New York, And even Orlando and my reaction coud be the same, "non-belief that they never heard of it." but then I think about it. Is there any phrase in this world that completely 100% of the entire world population of about 7 billion plus knows about? So far none, that I know of so it's safe to assume that some people will not know a phrase that is "world wide known" in my circle.

it's a saying to describe the kind of 'tough cookie' you'd do well to avoid.

True.

And if it's freeform and good set individually, just leave it up to the player on how they want to combine them. Very good idea.

Wait wait so the forum is behind the back now? When did that change? First up until now the complaints was about "spitting" in their faces and rubbing their faces in this and eating poo and all that crazy/weird perverted stuff now it's behind the back?

Lol. "the back is the front which is the back" seems like the case in this matter.

lol. I seen this before. It will end up never being a time to discuss it. Until it gets to the point of, "Oh too late, it's already in the game and would be too much to take out. Why didnt you say something in early development?"

never heard of it. Who created that phrase and what exactly does it means? I mean did someoen actually sit around doing that activity or something or some pervert thought it sounded cool.

So what was the planned offer? Doesnt seem like a company that is very big, especially with an unfinished website, kind of hard to imagine it's a company sitting on a spare 10-20 million dollars for the IP or so and another few millions at leats to get the game up and running again. I might be wrong as hell, maye you are all are raking in that type of money but it seems that is not much information on the net about your company, no list of products, not much of saying who you are besides a company that started in 2010 so how was an international corporation supposed to assume an offer from a small company, although probably well accomplished, was an offer that is to be taken serious? That is like me calling SOny and saying "Hey, I have an offer for you." and not expecting to be placed on hold forever until the line "disconnects".

That explains it up a very good bit.

nvm find, found ya.

so it seems. Never seen an angry old man die unless he was good and ready to die.

hmmm.

*Looks at Chad.

*Looks at the statement "There are less than three weeks left before the server shutdown. Go play the game. Make some memories with your friends. Say your good byes to the world of City of Heroes."

*Looks at Chad again.

*Looks at the statement.

*Looks towards the exit that leads to the game.

*looks at Chad

*finally looks at rest of the posting.

Hmm so many assumptions and the same old either you do it with us or you are not doing anything at all. Who said anyone that is not doing the COHTitan way has given up? Are you saying that COHTitans way is the only way or else you are doing nothing. You may not be part of COHTitan but your statement doesnt help them and just put more spotlight on the "Titan NEtwork way or you're doing it wrong" way of thinking. There are plenty people here who efforts are outside COHtitan influence and doing what they can. Just because they are nt flying the COHTitan banner around and drining any kool-aid that come out of that place with no questions asked doesnt automatically mean that they have given up, they are doing nothing, or as you say sitting with their thumb up their butt (really guy? who would do such a thing? disgusting. Is that one of your habits?)

apparently then, you havent read all of my posts only the ones that you find wrong. Says a lot about you. And talk about standards, I guess your standards went out the window all of a sudden? Where is your so called standards now? I dont think you had any to begin with.

Then I guess the proper term would have been, "why didnt you have the sand to say this earlier?" Your standards no longer apply? Says alot about your standards. Funny you mention about me being inflammatory but your first response to me, when I wasnt even talking about you, or to you, is inflammatory. Go figure. Is being a hypocrite part of your standards? Lecture someone abiut being inflammatory and how you dont like them but turn around, out of the blue, and do the same? If those are your standards there, I'm glad I dotn have your standards you can keep them.

Yeah, the ones that constantly attacked me in the past, and wonder where this animosity comes from? What did they expect. When I state my opion on the subject and they start calling me names what I'm suppose to bow down to them? Aint happening. if they want to state their opinion, that is fine with me, but I have asked them to show the same respect for mine, but no, they couldnt do that. So I guess that is the law of the west around here now. Dont bother attacking the idea, attack the person.

I'm not producing an environment here, I AM a product of this environment.

I think this is the third time me saying this, but I'm goign to say it one last time and if it's ignored this time, then what am I suppose to think besides that is the way they want it to continue. Simple, respect opinions that do not line up with the whole emotional, less emotion, planz ,plan 3,000, and etc and respect will come that way. But if this self-righteuous better than thou attitude and views continue, then what do they expect from these 19 days. I would prefer they get it together now, but even after Nov. 30 and Plan Z reaches a point where it either has to be serious commitment or sink, they have to clean up that image.

If COX based their entire existance on downing Blizzard every chance they get, and treating outside ideas, views, opinions with contempt because they are the view they hold, then how many people you would think would bother with this game? What kind of buisness would give their financial backing to an upstart company that is in disarray, constantly trying to smear a corporation, seemingly out more for revenge than tryign to build something positive, and make many statements that is pretty much straight disrespect to the Korean and or Asian culture and that one statement made earlier isnt the first one to come out that group. If you build a foundation that is that shaky, the project is bound to fail. And this is not me saying that Plan Z will fail or my view on it. This is about as "human" of a response you will get out of me. Seriously, get it together if you want to go far. I rather look in the store one day and say "Well I be damned, them dang on zealots pulled it off." Instead of "Well, seen the failure from a mile away. They just couldnt get it together. Great idea, but poor execution." At some point in time, the truth will have to be faced and the fear of it must go away or else all you all are doing is a worse service than any of the trolls over here, NCsoft, can ever do. That is raising people's hope only thinking that another game for them by them is coming only to dash them. Right now, you are setting yourself to take NCSoft place in crosshairs of their anger. For the projects sakes, get serious and if the people that is in charge of the project wont get serious make them get serious. How is it coming along, have they foudn a way to finance it. Hell, do they even have a buisness plan and or timeline and benchmark goals? Or is it all on the fly? Do they even realize what goes into making a game really or they only seen the glorious side and finished products?

And those questions dont even have to be answered outloud, as they might not even know the answers yet. But they should at least just think about it and think about what they are actually doing regardless of the show and chest puffing display they put on. Seen so many "oh it dont matter if it fails. And stuff." What financial backer wants to invest in a company with that mindset? What are they doing to ensure that it dont fail. Failure should not even be an option and if it is might as well pack it up, and go home.

Ah now we have everything.

I'm not just talking about this thread. I'm talking bout in general.

Sound like you need to take your own advice there, buddy. "Don't go hitting people and then cry victim when they hit back" like they have been doing. I bet you can ask I Burnt the Toast how many names he been called by them people and it will be a laundry list, and how many times they just insulted Angry Citizen for no reason, and other people around here that did not share their enthuse or view of things. I think no one is crying victim besides you people. You said you want the insults and attacks to stop yet continue to attack people. Yet, you speak of this stuff but do nothing to stop. It's simple insult us, we'll insult you. Bring up what you think about Plan Z, we'll bring up what we think about plan Z, Bring up how righteous you think Titan network is, we'll give our view. You dont want our view on things, then dont bring up stuff. As you all told me in the past. This is a public forum, if ya dotn want the topic to be discussed then dotn post it. But I suppose you think that only applies to me and you and your ilk are above that huh?

Ok now if it was one of the people that was percieved to be "against" COHtitan, that guy and you all would be on that person's back like flies to crap and would never let them live it down. But since it's one of your own, it's no big deal.

smh.

"Oh he just made a racist comment. No big deal, he's one of us."

I dont recall Noah and what ever other biblical person or diety or famous exploration person is compared to next being blatant in making a racist comment.

Exactly, not tell your people to follow those rules that they expect others to follow or else then what would be the point in stating it, but not following it themselves?

very racist. and in charge of marketing? Man, wait till word gets out about this.

oh hell, son. Might as well call them the other words while you at it.

Go figure. Up and coming representative that is in charge of marketing for the COX replacement made by Titan Network states that he is against Korean culture and bases this judgement on the fact that one Korean company closed down a game he loved.

I'm not sure how that is very good for marketing, especially an entity that may need outside financial backing. Are you trying to sink the project on purpose?

I think there more of a community outside COHtitan than those people realize. Not everyone that is working on trying to stay a part of the community is running over there to COHTitan, for various reasons, not all negative reasons. Some just found a community somewhere else in other games, some NCsoft games, some Cryptic games, some are games from other developers. While others just took their portion of the community and made it survive without a forum with the game to show that while a game is a good medium to base a community, it is not something the community dies with it.

Now by strict definition, yeah, the community would never be the same but then again, it never was. From i1-i23 people came and gone, some people finally joined the forums after playing the games for years in i13 time period others left the forums and havent been back since i9 but still played the game, the community was never the same. If putting the game and forum in a community sense, yes, death but that like saying that a family dies because their house got burned down (Or in community sense all houses in the community) and all survive but they insist that the community is dead. I guess it depends the definition of community as it can be defined either way. For some it's the people that make the community for others the area that the community is based on. But in the the end though COHTitan is not THE community left over from COX. But it is part of it.

Oh hell. Now why in the heezies did you have to go there? You all are some god annoited people that have been chosen to lead the righteous and save them from up coming flood while the evil ones drown?


Anyways though, most of the heckling is actualy comes from your side. it doesnt take much more than someone to say, "I dont know, Plan Z might not work." Before one of you come in here calling names and insults like they are going out of style, and then always end up saying "Well it might not succeed, but at least we tried." About the same thing the person they come in here and insulted in first place. I think many of us just got tired of that pattern and it moved from insulting to be hilarious. Usually the people you turn your nose up and treat with disdain for not agreeing with every little thing and following up with TonyV like lost blind sheep, usually wont all of a sudden shower you with praise especially when you called them every name under the sun then have the audacity to act like all of this is for no reason or ya so righteous and never insulted anyone while insulting them. You all are not Noah.

Me personally I think Plan Z have a chance to work, but the way it's looking I think some people are not realiztic about the deep endeavor that making a game takes and that takes looking beyond anger, emotions, sadness, and etc. It takes focus, and dont looks like much focus over and that is no insult that is what I see. It looks like they can half butt a game in a year time and call it a successor of COH. As one peron put a list of stuff they are lookng for in a game, I dont think the features have even went beyond the idea throwing stage yet. And still talks of someone doing an emulator over there, even though a few people from over there came over here to very strongly deny that, yet still more talks of it. Either they dont mind it, or there are so much stuff going on that no one knows what is going on besides one aspect. If COHtitan is building a game and they are suppose to be the "company" they havea lot of work to do if they want this to succeed. Right now, it's in the feel good stage but the way its going and lack of focus, what is going to happen in two years of making the game, three or four? And they sure as hell dont look like they are open to suggestions unlesss it falls in line with what they think is good already. Hell, someone mention that plan z may not work out and they get offended. How the hell are they going to be as open to ideas as these devs were but cant stand for anyone to suggest ideas and thoughts that are different from theres? If the dev act like that one this game, you think people would have stuck around? I doubt it. That is one of the reasons people dont play other games it seems. Why play a small version of WoW where the devs think they are above criticism and their ideas are unquestionable and anyone that have different ideas are NCSoft employees or worse or moles, or what ever the insult of the week is now, when there is thre real thing that is more established and bigger community?


In a nutshell, dont want people making fun of your Plan Z, dont make fun of people that state their view on it because it will (has) turned into a vicious circle. If you are that righteous that you can compare yourselves to Noah...actually wow. I'm not going to call that delusional. I think delusional wouldnt begin to describe it there.
You wouldnt happen to have Mrs. Carmody among your ranks would you?

No lie, that question looks a set up for someone to suggest a game and for you to shoot it down immediately.


If you are serious about the question, I would say Champions Online, but there is no super villains and a few minot features are missing. But some of the stuff you listed there doesnt seem to describe COX. I guess it depends on how it is looked at and personal preference.
But it's look like you are not looking for a replacement but another games that is exactly like COX down to the teeth which isnt going to happen even if COX is recreated or Plan Z comes to fruitation. But majority, of those thing CO does better.

yeah? Maybe we should have given the company that keeps games that long all of our money instead of a "serial MMO killer" and expecting them to give up their "Ways".

So when it could never get any growth in the revenue, you know what usually happens to those products? They are usually sent out the pasture after a while. It's like employees.
You think they are going to rid of the boss's protege even if that joker is a "wtff" person? Hell naw, the one that goes is that that one that on the borderline that is just making it. They aint going to fire the guy bring the company in tons of money just yet, and they aint going to fire the company "golden boy" no matter how over rated he is. But that guy that toils day in and day out but dont bring much in, is going to go when it comes down to realignments and cut backs. COX is that one that been toiling along not costing the company money but just bringing in a little bit. GW/GW2 as it seems is raking how have raked in a lot so that isnt going anywhere. B&S is the up and coming Golden Boy so that is staying. Aion/Lineage seems to be a boss's favorite type. So that leaves COX.

Of course everyone understands cut backs until they are part of the part that is getting let go.

just certain humans.

And I dont think being emotionally devasted from a loss of a video game is in any part shape or fashion part of human nature.

If you walked to a person who never played a video game, never seen or heard of video games and say, "hey, this video game is dying." I seriously doubt they will all of sudden break down as if someone just massacred their entire family. Do that make them an misanthrope too? From the looks of it, if you can distinguish the difference between a form of entertainment ending production and actua family being killed off that means ya robot and going against human nature now. Maybe we are not talking about the same human nature because last I check it is not human nature to mourn a game. That is sign of deep psychological issues. Behavior that may be present in the emotional immature like a child, sure. But adults, or so called adults, that is not normal behavior.


Well dont worry though about 19 days left. The way it's going, looks like a few people may not see Dec. 1st. and may take their own life force over this. If they feel it's that serious, then nothing ayone can do to stop them. I guess it may take some people longer to come to their senses. Some may never will. In the end, the result is the same. On Dec 1st, one way or another wil have to face it without the COX being a crutch to hold the emotions together. Unfortunately it's been so long for some it's like going cold turkey and the first few weeks will hurt dearly. But dont worry, survive until Jan/Feb. and it will be like nothing even happened.