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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man

Nope, all the games referenced are NCSoft publications.

Not entering the contest myself, because I'm not playing Lineage, because I don't want to play a strictly sword-and-sorcery MMO. Superheroes are where it's at.




... Speaking of which, I'm working part-time at GameStop for the holidays (what with having lost my REAL job in October), and I just sold a woman and her son on City of Heroes this morning when she was asking if I knew any good free MMOs.

Originally Posted by Zem

This is the reason the problem exists. They created the concepts first and then assigned resistances based on the concept. They didn't ask themselves ahead of time if making so many armored, robotic, or otherwise tough-skinned enemies was going to be a problem for lethal damage dealers.

That coupled with the fact that mission arcs and task forces tend to be composed of primarily just one enemy type and you get people facing entire play sessions at a disadvantage instead of just the occasional enemy they have a tough time with.

Originally Posted by BrandX

I'd rather they just made the Resists make sense.

Armored up! Have high S/L Resist!

What's really so bad about that?

Originally Posted by Bloodyfreak

Uninterruptable, yes; but useful without the signature power ALL Stalkers must take that is Hide? What's the point then in being a Stalker? Let me just jump on my Scrapper with SS and Stealth IO and poof! I'm a Stalker with more survivablility, more functionality, and more options.

As for Stalkers being 80% like Scrappers, I'd like to change that. That's what was proposed in those threads. To make Stalkers more unique and build on their strengths, not make them into Scrappers.

Originally Posted by Supernumiphone

Have that many new mobs been added with high lethal resistances? I remember noticing them even with my first Stalker back in I6 (clawls). Council robots were a real *****. People have been complaining about it for as long as I can remember. I don't see it as a new phenomenon.

Anyway the devs have resisted making any concessions to powersets that deal highly resisted damage types up until now. I don't expect that to change.

Originally Posted by Jibikao

And also, how much time do you think the developer have for Stalker in Issue 22? Are they going to really re-vamp this AT to get that "Stalker" feeling right?

Arcanville actually has a great idea but that requires a "Reverse of Fury" bar. Basically Stalker starts the fight at the max. Fury and then gradually decline. And you can use Placate to make the bar go back higher, etc.

I like that idea but do I think the dev has time to make that happen? Nope.

This means they only have time to make something that has an immediate positive effect. I am not saying Stalker has to be the king of ST damage. I just think that's most people's complaint on Stalker = lack of damage.

I don't mind if Assassin Focus causes Demoralize either. I don't always need a critical damage. It would be cool if Stalker can offer more controls for the team.

As for the new buff making Stalker too Scrapper. Well, I see it this way:

Scrapper: More AoE damage, mindless smashing, random Critical. Since there is no Fury bar and no Hidden/Placate, you simply pick your target and kill.

Stalker: Less AoE Damage, better burst damage and controllable Critical Damage. With Focus, you hit 3 times (landed) and then you can choose a target to deliver that sure Critical damage.

Originally Posted by Angry_Citizen

We have a point of contention then. Blasters, scrappers, brutes etc are not useless 99.9% of the time like stalkers would be under this gimmick proposed by Redlynn and the other gimmick proposed by the devs. Blasters and scrappers may not benefit the majority of time from their inherents, but they do benefit the majority of time from being innately powerful and filling niche roles of their own. Blasters and scrappers fulfill long-term DPS roles and the ability to quickly dispatch minions. Stalkers do not fulfill any role that cannot be replaced entirely by another AT, and the role they are ostensibly designed for is one that is very rare. How rare is the necessity for AoE damage? Hrm?

Also, I think you're using hyperbole or are being intentionally disingenuous if you're saying that Fury doesn't help brutes 99.9% of the time, because it most certainly does.



Indeed. I no longer seek to compare stalkers to scrappers. Scrappers themselves hold a tenuous role at best in team environments. However, they do have a role, and that role exists for the entire game. Scrappers do not suddenly become super-important in rare encounters like they would under Redlynn's proposal. They do, however, remain mildly important in essentially every encounter. That's what I want from stalkers. Other AT's should be able to fight bosses, no doubt about it. But a) bosses should be powerful enough to cause a team-wide threat, b) stalkers should be one of the many tools used to dispatch this team-wide threat, and c) stalkers should be very effective at doing just that.

Originally Posted by Ultimus

I asked if he's ever looked into it and he said he has not but he is willing to consider it. I thought I'd stop by before sending off a reply at what he needs to look at. Tankers don't have an egregious level of underperformance but there is room for improvement. With that being said, here's my questions:

What problems do you feel Tankers have?

Why do you feel this is a problem?

What would you do to Tankers to improve them? Why?

And what quantifiable data would you use to justify such a change?

Originally Posted by Jibikao

I think another bigger problem is that whatever they change for Stalker pve, they have to worry about pvp as well since Stalker is so popular in pvp.

Patron snipe having 7.3s casting time is 100% pvp reason. I can't imagine why a snipe needs 7.3 casting time in pve. It's ridiculously stupid IMO.

So you can say Stalker getting trolled is because of pathetic pvp. Speaking about PvP, I have no problem playing PvP in other games (like Rift ) but I just can't get into this game's pvp. I don't know why. I don't like the system. I hate the "hit and run" strategy. If you can't kill the person in 10s, then you'll be chasing him for hours. And because most fights end so fast (unless you are fighting a high lvl Tanker), there's really no strategies involved. You either burst damage him to death asap or the fight ends up in a chasing game. ugh..I can't get into this game's pvp. I am sorry. I know they've tried to make it better but for a causal pvper like me, I hate it.

Originally Posted by Kioshi

I find it so funny when people say some power would be gamebreaking for Stalkers and yet they never ever mention 'Oh I saw this OPed Stalker who decimated everything on my team'. While you probably saw an OP something of almost every other AT.



Although it has an AS-like animation, I doubt they'd remove the ST hard hitter of the set for AS, it'd be like removing Eviscerate, or Midnight Grasp, or ET/TF (well EM has two heavy hitters), I bet it'd be the middle cone (since the first is a +def power and the other is the tier 9).

There are already people saying the middle cone, while very good, is skippable on a top build (or the +def one if you have a def set but they wouldn't take out the tier 1 anyways).

Originally Posted by BrandX

I don't know. Can DA cap PSI? Sure. Still takes considerable amount of work to do so, which likely hurts the build in other ways if you're going for capped Psi Resist.

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison

You are either lying or no where near as competent as you believe yourself to be. Many other people have made it work. I have a brute DA running tough/weave hasten and spiritual. We have no problems. The only possible factor is you.

Originally Posted by JayboH

That's how it was for me on a stone/dark, and then I respecced into superior conditioning and physical perfection - along with recovery bonuses and two perf shifter procs, I added Vigor Radial to help with the end. I doubt you have ever built anything with dark that is as end hungry as when coupled with stone melee. I currently finally have zero end issues but yes, it took plenty to get there. It has never been about the toggles, even considering CoF - it's always been about how tough your toggles make you in order to prevent constant use of dark regen, which is the real blue bar destroyer.

Originally Posted by Trickshooter

Didja stop reading halfway through Glue Arrow? Cause I'm pretty sure I suggested a tic'ing Hold in Glue Arrow, an increase in the mag of Poison Gas Arrow, and a ToHit debuff in Disruption Arrow that, combined with Flash Arrow, could get nearly -20% ToHit on enemies when slotted.

Originally Posted by New Dawn

That's not what I am saying. I can read your line 4 different ways and its still a myth.

Defenders can't keep a team alive single handedly. There is no singlehandliness in a team.

Originally Posted by New Dawn

This is a myth.