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Originally Posted by rsclark

Time paid for subscription in the past. No reason to believe it entitles you to any free stuff in the future. You should be glad they are actually giving you free stuff in the future instead of starting everyone off at zero. That would be completely fair, you know, starting absolutely everyone off with zero point.

It's silly to pay for one thing and get upset when they don't give you something totally unrelated. That is especially true when the product being discussed is a totally new offering. I mean, I've only been able to play my DP and DS characters for 1 of the 5 years I've been subscribed, a new player gets to play one for all 5 years they pay - how is that fair? Oh, that's right, it is fair.


No. By the time they have been subscribed for 3 years, you will have accumulated just as many more points as they will have


Over what mark? The mark is "three years of accumulating paragon points". Since you have none, you aren't over any mark. When I get a raise at work, they don't back date it for the entire length of my employment. Time based things have this odd feature of usually only happening in the future.

Originally Posted by mercykilling

And did nobody see the last panel where it says "Veteran players may start at Tier 7+." And then goes on to say, "They'll get nearly everything for free."?

That part really worries me. I've been playing almost five years now. Perhaps by the time i21 hits, I -will- have six years under my belt. I surely don't want to pay anything to get back to where I am now, nor wait until it becomes available to me again.
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Originally Posted by rsclark

You can. Wait 3 years-the credit time they give you.


It isn't. Nothing is taken away from you. There are now more options and a different system to get it. There is even another new currency. You lose nothing and get a very significant jump start on the new stuff. They have to wait 3 years and you don't.

Your complaint sounds suspiciously like the people who complained about CoV becoming included in the base game after they had to pay for it.

Originally Posted by rsclark

No one is saying that everyone who has been paying for 3 years jumps to tier 9. What they are saying is that anyone who starts paying today will be at tier 9 in 3 years. The people who have been subscribing longer get a jump start on that 3 years depending on how long they have been subscribed.

But the jumpstart is LESS than the actual time you have been subscribed. If you've been here for 5 years, maybe they knock 2 years off that 3 year requirement. and you only have to wait 1 year to get to tier 9.

The time you have been subscribed in the past is worth less than the time you are subscribed once the new system goes live. But the good thing is you don't have to pick one or the other. Your future (full credit) subscription time will simply add onto your past (partial credit) time.

But it does mean that new players will be able to get to t9 while being subscribed for less total time than someone who has been here all along. That's the whole point. They don't want to put the highest rewards out of reach of new people. Doing that is a disincentive to start the game at all if you know you are coming in at an insurmountable disadvantage compared to everyone already in the game. They made that advantage surmountable - you can effectively "catch up".