Eva Destruction

A deal with the devil. It's the only way.

Scary isn't it?

This. I have done the ITF three, maybe four times with Eva Destruction. She was the first character I took through it when it was released, and I ran it twice the week it was WST because I like the TF and there was a badge and badges are shiny. I might have brought her on a "yeah sure, I'll do an ITF...I don't know who I want to bring...they want damage....screw it I haven't played Eva in a while" run. Once I ran that character through it, I had completed that content with that character. If I liked it enough to run it again it would probably be with a different character the second time, and another the third, and so on. I bring a Blaster the first time, a Corruptor the second, and a Brute the third. All of them have a different experience on the TF.

I completed the BaF trial with my Scrapper. I'm done with that content. Maybe a few months down the road I'll revisit it because my friends want to run a BaF and they could use my Scrapper's help, but repeating it with the same character for the sake of repetition? My friends formed a BaF. I brought Eva Destruction, who hadn't completed the content. We succeeded, and now I have completed this content with this character. I think I'm at around 15% of my Judgement slot unlocked.

One of us! One of us!

Ok, so you legitimately like the mechanics of the trials. Ok. It doesn't answer the question though: Do you like them enough that you would run them over and over if they gave the same rewards as the LGTF gives right now?

How so? They could just as easily have you get those next levels by repeating the same two trials. There is nothing that intrinsically ties leveling up to running a variety of content, otherwise nobody would have ever reached 50 without ever having fought anything but the Dreck mission or Fire Ambush Farm #234298.

The visible ribs above her cleavage make it pretty obvious they're fake. Real boobs do not work that way!

It would be better to unlock with an arc than a TF, like every other TF that requires unlocking.

Two birds, one rock and all.

"I think they're fun" is a valid opinion.

"I like shinies" is also a valid opinion.

"They're fun because they give awesome shinies" is based on an erroneous assumption that the shinies are intrinsically tied to the trials. They are not. They are only tied to the trials because the devs chose to tie them to the trials.

And I can get the dishes done in ten minutes, but the ITF takes an hour. Guess which one I actually want to do.

Yeah, we get it, you like your shinies. Tell me, would you still love the trials as much if they gave comparable rewards to, say, LGTF? Would you still run them five times in a day?


Standing around doing emotes on top of the Atlas statue is a better thing to do with your 50s, if you find it fun and don't find the trials fun.

Venture's always a jerk, what's your excuse.

And no, he's not being unreasonable here. Other people have already pointed out in multiple places that it's the thread costs that are unreasonable.

"You don't need tier 4s" is not a valid argument. Technically you don't "need" to do anything in this game, but anything that is possible to get should be possible within the expected lifetime of this game, without being limited to one specific playstyle.

Handing a bunch of power to a guy hellbent on taking over the multiverse, killing all supers and enslaving everyone else isn't evil now?

Five times as long FOR WHOM?

30 threads to unlock.
60 threads to craft.

Unless you want to be horribly inefficient with your shards that's 9 days minimum. This is assuming you can earn 10 shards a day....now I have several characters who can play on x8, but in order to earn 10 shards a day on any of them I would have to play in a way that I can only call farming (using the definition of farming: running something over and over to maximize rewards.) or play one character for several hours a day. That's your solo option. How is this "five times as long?" If you can't play on x8 it would take a timeframe I don't even want to think about.

And that's pretty much WAI in my book.

Fighting Trolls or Outcasts isn't incredibly stupid. Making a deal with the devil is. I do not write my characters as incredibly stupid.

I don't think we should be fostering that kind of attitude either, because there is no need to. Up until now, you could have a highly effective character while remaining true to concept, unless your concept was something extreme like a petless Mastermind. Power customization served no purpose but to make it easier to build a character truer to concept and to allow Dark Armor users to see their costumes. Now we're taking a huge step back for no good reason.

On the plus side, Pyronic judgement does have an animation that looks a lot like throwing something. And it looks pretty freaking sweet. Incendiary grenades it is!

That's kind of the point isn't it? If you ever start thinking you're too invincible, remember that there are still enemies against which you're not.

So a bunch of people mentioning a lot of stuff they like and a few people mentioning one thing they don't like is "mostly rants and whining?"

Yeah, but that's just lazy. I'ma gonna sick a pack of PPD Kheldians at you just for being so lazy.

Hail to the king baby. Hail to the king.

We have alien monkeys, is that good enough?

Is it sad that whenever someone posts this I know exactly what it links to before clicking it, yet I click it every time?

Ah, I did not know that. And yet, the timer remains.

And yet, Unai's story arc contains at least two Freakshow missions on the exact same map, neither of which got a timer. They can be farmed just as easily as Dreck, but they weren't being farmed like Dreck was, so they didn't get a timer.

They get better at it, as evidenced by the destroyed Mega Mechs on the ruined Atlas Park map. The answer is obvious: they need to access a future where they got better at making giant robots and bring that knowledge back to the present.

They sucked at making giant robots when the ITF came out because their resident giant robot maker had defected to the Council. And now he's back with the 5th, and why? Because the 5th have double the giant robots that the Council does. You can't find much fault with Burkholder's priorities there.
The KoA need more mob variety and less *&?!# caltrops.

Yes, Nemesis definitely needs a giant robot.
St. Martial has a lot of Freakshow and no Giant Monster. Just sayin'.

The Sky Raiders have a giant fortress covered in turrets, which my husband has lovingly dubbed "the Death Star." I would like to be able to rename it Fortress Maximus. That is all.

The Dreck mission was exploitative? Wolves were exploitative? Katie Hannon was....well ok, that one was exploited, but I believe the "fail the Mary mission" loophole was closed before merits were introduced, wasn't it?

I said I can't go make a sandwich, not that he can't. He's a Tank and I'm a Scrapper, so he should be tougher than me. I'd also be willing to bet I kill a whole heck of a lot faster than he does. Hence my comment: if you're happy with your survivability pick Incarnate abilities that help you kill faster.

Besides, I did see Dechs' "Dark Armor sucks" video, and distinctly recall Dark Regeneration being used. Can't do that while making a sandwich. Can't jump into a mob of anything with significant defense debuffs and go make a sandwich either, since Dark Armor is vulnerable to cascading defense failure on an epic scale.

Well Diabolique and Dominatrix are still in their old outfits and in desperate need of boob jobs.

Then use Incarnate stuff to trick yourself out so you can kill them faster?

I run my Scrapper on +4x8 too, but I am still at a decent risk of dying. Until I can jump into a mob and go make a sandwich, I'm not going to complain.