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Quote:I also have a [small] pet peeve about people who can't spell, punctuate, etcetera, but my BIG peeve is with the obsessive-compulsive people who insist on breaking up the flow of conversation/RP/whatever by "fixing" their easily understood typos.Originally Posted by mercykilling
Also: spelling and punctuation are a big thing for me. It irritates me to no end to see people not capitalizing, punctuating and just outright misspelling -very simple words-. I can understand typos but.....one can usually tell those from misspellings.
OCD Man: Guy! Long time no see -- how are yuo?
OCD Man: ((*you))
Laid-back Hero: Hey there -- pretty good! How about yourself?
OCD Man: God to hear it!
OCD Man: ((*Good))
<long pause, forced repeat since SOMEONE missed the question>
Laid-back Hero: How've you been? Bustin' up crooks as usual?
OCD Man: Im good, thanks, and yeah! I've been busy in Dak Astoria lately.
OCD Man: ((*I'm))
OCD Man: ((*Dark))
Laid-back Hero: I was going to say something else, but this is just too painful, even for a granite tanker.
Seriously. We get it. You can in fact spell, and are inordinately proud of it, even if you (apparently) can't type to save your life! Good for you! But STOP WITH THE EXCESSIVE PARENTHETICAL FIXES IF THE AVERAGE EIGHT YEAR OLD KID CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU MEANT!
If your cat runs across your keyboard, or if you have some sort of seizure resulting in a string of vowel-less words that appear to be in Welsh, yes, please fix it. On the other hand, most of us can pretty much figure out what you mean by "teh" -- especially if your character's not prone to l33t-speak or irony.
(I think I've ranted about this before, but the many of the worst offenders obviously missed it. Thus, "Rant: Part II."
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Edit: I forgot to mention the people who try to fix their typos AND JUST MAKE IT WORSE!
OCD Man: Im good, thanks, and yeah! I've been busy in Dak Astoria lately.
OCD Man: ((*I'mn)
OCD Man: ((*In)
OCD MAN: ((GAH!!!!!!!!!!))
OCD Man: ((*I'm))
OCD Man: <proceeds to misspell "Dark" eleventeen times with varying results>
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Quote:Personally, I think that running all the Shield toggles, plus Maneuvers to reach the softcap, without even 3 slots in Stamina is going to leave you gasping for virtual breath between fights. (Yes, you could always shore up your endurance woes with the cardiac alpha slot, but I prefer to use MY incarnate slots as "icing on the cake" as opposed to a "Band-Aid solution.") Then again, I also try my darnedest to not be tied to using inspirations for anything, either -- and I try to build my scrappers for sustained, long-term, go-solo-a-pylon-or-AV type fighting.Originally Posted by 0v3rl0rd
Also, i took blaze mastery simply for more aoe though now i realise that maybe body would be better for physical perfection/conserve power? But then I'd lose the bonuses from the sets in fireball and fire blast? What should I do? Any help is greatly appreciated and thank you in advance!
Here's my Elec/Shield/Body (who runs Musculature for moar damage!) -- if I'm not getting debuffed I just leave Focused Accuracy off and never have to worry about endurance issues between spawns.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.957
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
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As of last night:
Acc/Dam - 4
End/Rec - 1
A/D/E - 4
D/E/R - 4
A/D/E/R - 2
KB/KD - 2
The random number generator seemed to hate me the past couple of nights -- I did the Summer Event with the same three characters, two nights in a row. First night: 3 Acc/Dam, one after the other. Second night: 3 Acc/Dam/End -- two back to back, the third several hours later. What are the odds of that, 1 in 216 for each?
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Quote:Of course, currently we have to bid on those in the Market sorting BY LEVEL -- unless I'm missing something, we can't just scroll down the long list of Overwhelming Forces and see the level on each icon, as we can for other IO's.Originally Posted by Zwillinger
- Overwhelming Force enhancements can now be traded at Wentworth's and the Black Market.
<snip> - Fixed a bug that could prevent attuned enhancements from being able to be slotted by characters of certain levels within the enhancements' intended level ranges. (Overwhelming Force enhancements earned by higher level characters were unusable by lower level characters until they reached the same level as the character who earned the enhancement.)
Will those be getting level icons in the near future?
- Overwhelming Force enhancements can now be traded at Wentworth's and the Black Market.
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Quote:"Search" is your friend:Originally Posted by jah918
does anyone have a good general gameplay build on mids for DB/WP or Spines/WP? if so post it please
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=289600
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=288035
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=285308
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=250737
There's four threads on DB/WP scrappers to get you started!
Since you're not offering your build for advice/critique, here's a few commonalities that run through the above threads:
1) Most secondaries in the game benefit the most from ADDING TO whatever sort of defense they start with. Willpower starts off with a small amount of TYPED defense: smashing/lethal, negative/energy, and so on. Find IO sets that build to your strengths (typed) and forget about the positionals like melee, ranged, and AoE. (More explanations of HOW defense works are in those threads above.)
1) a) Five sets of Kinetic Combat are a great way to get smashing/lethal defense for your willpower scrapper. Unfortunately, as a level 35 IO, the basic four KCs only give mediocre accuracy, damage, etc. to your attacks. Consider "frankenslotting" a fifth and/or sixth enhancement in those attacks for more accuracy, damage and whatnot. Crushing Impact has an Acc/Dam/Recharge, an Acc/End/Recharge, and a Dam/End/Recharge, Mako's Strike has an Acc/Dam/End/Recharge, and so on.
2) For Willpower (and Regen) scrappers, Physical Perfection is THE CRAPPIEST heal/end mod power available. You probably shouldn't put ANY slots in it. (There's a recent thread talking about how IF you've got extra slots lying around, and IF you've got Fast Healing, Quick Recovery, Healing and Stamina all five and six slotted, it's not bad -- but in MY experience there's no such thing as "extra slots laying around" with DB/WP, only "gah! If only I had ONE [or two or three] MORE slots!")
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Quote:Heh - comparing tanks and scrappers is kind of like comparing bulldozers to sports cars -- they've got vastly different purposes. Tanks are about holding aggro while other people do the damage; scrappers are about flipping out and killing stuff.Originally Posted by The_Laughing_Man
Also done a StJ/Invuln tank to 50 which was possibly a mistake as I felt tough as old boots, but underwhelmed by the damage. That's the point of a Tanker though eh? Not sure I could repeat it on a scrapper unless general thoughts are that it would play much more damaging. Maybe StJ/somethingelse?
Looking at Mids' and comparing the very similar IO builds between my DB/WP scrapper and my WP/DB tank, with the favorite DB attack chain of Blinding Feint => Attack Vitals:
Scrapper: base damage (before Incarnate-y goodness) of 440 for Blinding Feint, 348 for Ablating Strike, 625 for Vengeful Slice, 391 for Sweeping Strike.
Tank: 222 Blinding Feint, 176 Ablating Strike, 313 Vengeful Slice, 189 Sweeping Strike.
I'm not sure about how you define "much more damaging" but that looks to be about double the damage right there. Start adding bonuses for things like Alpha Musculature when needed [+33% to a big number is more than +33% of a small number], and most scrappers can make spawns melt away a LOT faster than most tanks can hope to.
Your mileage with other powersets may vary, no numbers were harmed in the making of this post, etc.
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Congratulations on Miss Arcana reaching level 50, and glad to hear that you're having so much fun!
(And welcome to the dark...er...scrapperlock side! Muwahahaha! )
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Quote:Originally Posted by Madadh
As I understand it... They are supposed to be able to be bought/sold/traded via the Auction House. <snip> So the auction house needs a tweak for you to be able to sell them. With any luck, today's publish is taking care of that (and other) issues.Good deal, and thanks for the info! Hopefully it'll be fixed "soon™".Quote:Originally Posted by Madadh
And, FYI, Hit Streak confirmed under the thread for today's (June 29) patch notes that the Auction House thing is a bug, and it will be addressed. But not today.
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Quote:We can e-mail Overwhelming Force enhancements to other characters on the same account, and we can trade them with other people via the "trade window" or drag/drop -- but they can't be bought or sold via the Auction House?!? I just successfully e-mailed one to my other account.Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
2) They are one of the rewards at the end of the event. As far as I'm aware, you can only earn one every 20 hours with a given character. But you can email them to your other characters.
Who thought THAT up, and why? Does someone somewhere want the Market and Inventions forum to return to pages upon pages of "Looking To Sell/Buy..." posts? Is this WAI or some sort of bug? (If there's another thread on this topic, please point me in that direction!) -
Quote:Well, as ClawsandEffect said, if you've got slots to spare in a build, go ahead and enhance PP -- last.Originally Posted by Babykyochan
Physical Perfection is only slotted that way because the person who mentored me on doing builds always insists thats a good way to go but I am more then open to changing it if that helps! As Werner said, there's almost always a better way to get the same result -- to which I'D say "unless you've got Health, Stamina, Fast Healing and Quick Recovery all four-slotted or better." [Silly side note: Werner and ClawsandEffect both agreeing with me? I feel like Tiger Woods just told me I've got a nice golf swing!
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I'd always thought that Hack was the third biggest Broadsword attacks, right after Disembowel and Headsplitter -- as such, I'd try to pack that full of accuracy, damage and recharge, but that's me!Quote:Originally Posted by Babykyochan
Okay guys. I took what you guys have said and what my friends mentor said about it and made some tweaks. Here are the tweaks I got from my friend, so you guys can help me figure out if I followed them well enough or if you have different suggestions.
suggestions:
hack-dont use mako bite if only dedicating 4 slots to the power
Now I did replace the Mako's with Kinetics like Eldorado suggested and tried to play around with a lot of things. I ended up dropping Conserve power and physical perfection in favor of stealth and energy protection and that helped get me not only a bit more resistance to the build but I hit soft cap on all typed defense but Psionic.
Does this look any better? Any other suggestions or things I should change? I'll work with anything!
Overall it looks like you're heading in the right direction with your defenses, but my personal gut reaction is "are you gonna have enough endurance for those long fights?" Dropping Conserve Power and Physical Perfection and adding Stealth is just adding another toggle to the mix on top of the Leadership pool, and Broadsword traditionally uses up a good chunk of endurance with those bone-crunching attacks!
Then again, what I DON'T know about Energy Aura would just about fill the Grand Canyon, to quote Silent Bob. (Waitaminnut -- it's the INTERNET! Are people allowed to say "I don't know, better ask someone who does!"? Oh well...too late now. )
I see "Recovery: 2.75/sec" and "End Drain: 1.75/sec" and don't think that a net recovery of 1/sec will last long, but again, I'm not sure how Energy Drain factors into the equation. -
Two things immediately leap out at me as "wrong":
1) Physical Perfection is (as always around here) WAY OVERSLOTTED! Physical Perfection the crappiest available scrapper heal, and the crappiest available endurance modification power -- the nice thing is that yes, it does add to both at the same time, but at half the strength of Health or Stamina.
Any slot and enhancement (beyond the automatic one) in Physical Perfection thus gets you HALF THE BENEFIT that it would from putting said slot and enhancement in Health or Stamina (and LESS than half of what it'd get in Fast Healing or Quick Recovery if those are available.)
Here's the same build, with just the Healing slots moved around:
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2) Defenses are tricky things -- there are some secondaries that innately add to "positional defense" like melee, ranged, and AoE, and other secondaries that add to "typed" defense, like smashing/lethal, energy/negative, and fire/cold.
It's almost always better to add to your secondary's strengths, and by just slotting SO's in your defensive powers, it's pretty obvious that Energy Aura (which is not a secondary I've personally played) is all about "typed" defenses -- much like Willpower, which IS a secondary I've got experience with!
So, the short version is "discard all those sets that are giving you 'positional' bonuses and start looking for sets that give 'typed' instead." The one set of Kinetic Combats you have slotted is a good start; you might try to fit four more of those into the build for better defense!
I'll try and see if I can't throw together something build-wise soon, but those are two good places to start! -
Well, you did say it's been a while since you did any sort of build....
1) First of all, Fitness powers are now "inherent" (or automatic) which means you get three more powers to pick! For survivability, I added Boxing, Tough and Weave -- yes, Tough DOES make a pretty big difference now and with defense bonuses from IO's, Weave is pretty nice to have these days as well.
2) Five slots in Physical Perfection is probably four too many -- PP is The Worst of all regen and recovery type powers, and using slots in Fast Healing, Health, Quick Recovery and/or Stamina will give you a lot more "bang for the buck." A lot of people just use the slot that comes with it for a proc [which isn't affected by the dismal multiplier from PP] and call it good.
3) Some secondaries work better with "positional" defenses (melee/ranged/aoe) and some work better with "typed" defenses (smashing/lethal, energy/negative). Super Reflexes starts off with a LOT of positional defenses, and lends itself well to IO's that bolster those. Willpower starts off with a little bit of typed defense, and works best if you add to that with sets like Kinetic Combats and Reactive Armor. Of course, as a level 35 set, KC isn't exactly a powerhouse for damage, accuracy and other good stuff, but I "frankenslotted" some other things in there to add to damage, accuracy and recharge.
4) I threw this build together fairly quickly, but a quick comparison of the "Totals" window reveals that this build winds up with 35.4% smashing/lethal defense, 28.8% energy/negative defense, and very similar endurance recovery (possibly even more, since the Performance Shifter "procs" don't show up in the totals window.) This build also gets you more regeneration -- even though it didn't look like it at first glance since you had the RttC slider all the way up to "10 enemies in range."
While this build is a LOT more survivable, I'm sure there's room for improvement, and/or a lot of other BS/WP builds floating around here that probably reach [or approach] the S/L softcap of 45% defense, but hopefully this can get you pointed in the right direction!
Data Link: http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/downl...ECD73F3A8FE032
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Quote:From a similar thread in the scrapper forums back in December [ http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...0&postcount=14 ]Originally Posted by Easily_Noobed
I'm serious. Saw the end of a conversation in game and I had to know if it was true.
I mean everyone knows an Ill/rad can, but a melee? Really?
Said videos/signature is in the above link. I can't remember, but didn't Werner solo something like all but one AV long, long ago? I'm thinking "Sergei" and "katana/regen" but I'm really not sure of the details....Quote:Originally Posted by Werner
The first video in my signature is of my Katana/Dark Scrapper, Alexei, soloing 11 Praetorian AVs in a row with no temporary powers, no inspirations, and no deaths. They're sort of low to mid range AVs as far as difficulty goes, though. I'd have much less success against many AVs. This was in I17. Most of the other AV soloing videos in the link are much earlier, I12 and I13. It should be easier now, particularly with the alpha slot and inherent Fitness. -
Quote:#1: This:Originally Posted by Cheetatron
Other than the no/less redraw aspect this isn't a synergistic combo imo both Kat and WP sacrifice stuff for def but since they're providing competeing types of def they don't synergize
#2: This:Quote:Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
Divine Avalanche gives lethal defence doesn't it? Though you would have to accept a smashing hole.
Alternatively stacking enough DA would probably allow you to cap positions, even if it isn't synergistic.
The OP was (is?) looking for a (presumably solid) build with which to experience scrapperlock for the first time, not asking for a build to spend a hundred billion INF on and solo AV's with, so I'm not sure he's looking for something to softcap to Incarnate trial levels, either.Quote:Originally Posted by Nyghtmaire
( fine print: I have never leveled a scrapper past 12...
Willpower is a pretty smooth ride to 50 just with SO's, and I feel that Katana's simple, fun, and (at least used to) do a ton of DPS. I started to suggest Martial Arts, too, but I still like the "oh, no!!" bacon-saver that is Divine Avalanche. And as noted, no (or minimal) redraw!
A melee AT with not one, but TWO ranged attacks in the primary powers? That seems a little gimmick-y to me.Quote:Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
The "classic" scrapperlock combo is Claws/SR.
No gimmicks to worry about. But yeah, classic, simple, and plenty powerful -- the only reason I didn't suggest SR is that while it's awesome at higher levels (softcappable with just SO's!), it always felt sort of squishy and End-intensive at lower levels to me -- YMMV.
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Quote:I think that's all going to depend on your definition of "pure," to be honest.Originally Posted by Nyghtmaire
What would the scrapper community recommend as the purest, most intense combination with which to experience the joys of scrapperlock?
If you're looking for old-school, non-gimmick-y, one power activation = lots of hurt on the bad guys, I'd avoid any of the new-fangled primaries that involve combinations or combos/finishers, "levels of perfection," or momentum. This isn't to say they're not fun -- my main is a Dual Blades/Willpower scrapper, and I'm quite enjoying my recently 50th Staff/WP scrapper as well -- but they're a little more complicated than "mash a button and punch a guy in the face."
Old-school scrapper primaries that (mostly) consist of melee single target attacks, cones, and PBAoE spins include Broadsword, Claws, Katana, and Martial Arts, and their slightly-later-to the party cousins Battle Axe and War Mace. The other primaries all contain some unusual (and often set-defining) powers like ranged attacks or health or endurance drains.
For a secondary, I'd recommend an equally old-school set as well, like Invulnerability, Regeneration, Super Reflexes or Willpower. I'm a big fan of Willpower as a "set and forget" powerset -- there's not a lot of micromanagment, just toggle up and go! Plus, Willpower and Invulnerability (theoretically) have Taunt Auras to keep the bad guys from running away from you as you start carving through their ranks.
Of course, ALL the powersets available to scrappers are pretty nice, and there really aren't any awful combinations to pick from. Still, some are more complicated than others, and IMHO if you've got a complicated primary that requires a certain level of finesse and strategy paired up with a gimmicky secondary you'll be less likely to get into that total Zen scrapperlock zone the first few times.
Personally, I'd suggest Katana/Willpower. There's nothing fancy about it except for an "uh oh" power so you can Parry if you get in over your head, there's no knockback to worry about -- just knockup and knockdown -- and it's a fast animating set which still deals plenty of damage, and can still be quite an efficient late-game contender with IO's. Your mileage may vary, and after you start getting into the scrapperlock zone, you may wind up with a stableful of different types of scrappers! -
Quote:Originally Posted by Fista
I've been playing around with Mids and can't find any way to get decent damage mitigation out of the set. However it does mad HP and Regen. Am I missing something or is that the way to go?Willpower really depends on using all of the tools available to really shine. It's probably impossible to softcap defenses AND resistance AND Fast Healing and Rise to the Challenge at the same time with the number of slots we have -- at least before getting to Incarnate powers. The best thing to do is probably a multi-layered approach and try to work on all three.Quote:Originally Posted by Santorican
Build in this priority: Typed Def > Regen > Resis > Recov
If you can stack mitigation your character will be a lot tougher than just regeneration. WP doesn't deal well with burst damage unless it has a ton of enemies around it to buff its regen.
As Santorican said, work on getting your typed defenses [especially smashing/lethal and energy/negative] up to decent-to-good levels, and see what you can do to slot your regen and resistances as well as possible -- within reason. Willpower doesn't have to reach Super Reflex levels of defense -- when a WP scrapper gets hit, they've got more resistance so less damage gets through, and then they can regenerate the hit points back. When SR gets hit, well, there's not much in the way of mitigation except for Aid Self.
Your best solution to burst damage is probably using High Pain Tolerance and set bonuses to increase your Max Hit Points!
Actually, Heightened Senses provides some defense debuff resistance, but not the huge amounts that Shield used to get. In-game, the Combat Attributes window shows my DB/WP scrapper as having 17.30% DDR from Heightened Senses; Mid's shows it at a (comparatively) staggering 47.3, which just seems way off. *confused shrug*Quote:Originally Posted by Granite Agent
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Quote:No problem -- hopefully that help does help!Originally Posted by MindfulFool
Thank you so much for your help!
Even though he's got a Kismet +6% accuracy?Quote:Originally Posted by Madadh
I think with that build, you will want to go Nerve Alpha. You'll desperately need the added accuracy. Especially if you ever run at above even con diff, or if you plan to try to use the combos ever, or if you hope to do incarnate content.
I like to run at higher difficulties, and I've therefore become a big fan of Body Mastery and Focused Accuracy on my scrappers, with a Gaussian's set for the defense bonuses, and a Perf Shifter proc in Physical Perfection to ensure that I've got enough endurance to leave FA running all the time. Unfortunately, that's not going to work for MindfulFool's fire concept and Blaze Mastery. *shrug*
My DB/WP/Body build, in case anybody can find something useful therein:
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.956
http://www.cohplanner.com/
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Yeah, a couple slots here or there is one thing -- six slots IS a bit excessive in my book, too. The great thing about this game is that there's a LOT of ways to build a really good mousetrap, and it just seems to me that there's often a way to avoid wasting those slots and still achieving the same goals.Quote:Originally Posted by Madadh
I didn't look at Eldorado's build, but I'd agree with all of his suggestions and points, though.
Edit: Well, except for the set mule thing bothers me a bit less then it does him. However, I think I wouldn't push it as far as you have by using Boxing AND Brawl. Now you're talking 6 slots used up on powers you will never use. That's getting a bit excessive. -
Quote:QFT, although I'd probably say "build for S/L and E/N defense FIRST, then make sure to boost regen and max HP, and then Parry as needed." Same things, different order.Originally Posted by Madadh
But, the basics are.... Parry. Use it, master it, love it. Then push your regen and max HP as far as you can. Get solid base def all around, and you'll be stupid tough.
Here's what I did for my BS/WP scrapper back in Issue 19 -- before the Scrapper's Strike ATOs,and before Gladiator's Armors came down in price. I'm sure I'd probably do things a little bit differently today (take, for example, the three BotZs in Flight -- that's a holdover from when I [stupidly] tried to build willpower with positional defenses instead of typed defenses. Typed works a LOT better with willpower!)
Still, I followed the same general gameplan I used for my DB/WP main, my WP/DB tank, my katana/WP scrapper, and a few others, and it worked out fairly well.
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Quote:I think it looks mostly good, except...Originally Posted by MindfulFool
But anyways, now that you got all this information... how does this build look?
1) Damage looks a little underwhelming. Four Kinetic Combats do great things for S/L defense, but leave a lot to be desired in the accuracy and damage departments.
2) It's a personal pet peeve of mine, but I absolutely LOATHE wasting slots to make "set mules" out of things like Boxing and Brawl. (It's not like you're going to USE those powers, especially with Dual Blades, right? "Need moar redraw animation!" No, not really! ) I always think that those slots could be used to much better effect elsewhere 90% of the time.
3) I'm not sure if you deliberately stayed away from the new ATO enhancements (or just forgot about them 'cause they're newish), but if you're spending that much INF on the build as it is, what's another hundred million or two? If you split up the set and then catalyze them, that's 10% S/L defense right there!
I pretty much threw this build together in about five minutes -- you'll probably want to pay more attention to which ATO's and Eradications actually go where -- but it's ALMOST softcapped to S/L defense, has better energy/negative defense, does more damage, has more hit points and a little bit more regen. You could easily make the S/L softcap with the Agility alpha slot, or with enhancement boosters, or...or...there's probably another way with a little reshuffling, but it's so late tonight that it's becoming "early." Hopefully this will give you another perspective on your build!
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Quote:Originally Posted by Tenzhi
And if they just added it to your sub for free, complaining about it could be appropriate. Free gifts can themselves be rude.ROFLMAO!Quote:Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
Reminds me of the time a friend of mine ordered a veggie burger and it was delivered with bacon on it. (Really, restaurant people, you didn't stop to think that the person ordering the veggie burger might not want to eat meat? -_-)
While I can understand a vegetarian's desire to not eat meat -- even though I can't relate to that desire -- now I want to go order one somewhere, just to see the look on their faces. "One veggie burger with cheese, extra mayo, with extra bacon! Hmmm. 'Add bacon to any burger, 99 cents.' For $1.98, could I have EXTRA extra bacon on that?!"
Meanwhile, in actual thread-related news, thanks for my free xp boosters (one on each account)! -
Quote:Very nice, and definitely moving in the right direction, with some very nice numbers at the end of all the work!Originally Posted by LotusNinja
so after working on my build some ive come to this.
Some minor suggestions that you might want to take or leave:
The two slots of -To Hit in Rise to the Challenge REALLY aren't doing much -- they're taking a minor debuff and not even doubling it (from -3.75 to -5.3). (IIRC, the conventional wisdom around here also usually says "don't bother with -To Hit, slot for Regen.") I'd move them somewhere else....
My first thought was "one more slot in Sweeping Strike with the Oblit proc gets you 1.88 more S/L defense and a chance for more damage, neither of which are bad things."
My second thought was "one more in Health can't hurt to get the regen rate even higher."
Then I wondered about the Panacea proc you've got in Health. It's not the greatest [link] of the three Heal Uniques, and it [used to be] insanely expensive for what it did. On the other hand, the prices have probably dropped since converters came along, and it's a nice way to get the extra heal/recovery -- like from Physical Perfection -- but without having to take the power! Plus, paired with a Panacea Heal, you'd not only get more healing but ALSO another nice [4%] End Recovery boost. I may have to take that idea and use it myself!
Lastly, I'D put another set of Kinetic Combats in Power Slice to take advantage of the S/L bonuses.
Outside of those minor quibbles, I think it looks pretty good!
Edit: yes, it helps to export the RIGHT data chunk, doesn't it? *goes to make more coffee*
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Quote:I managed to get enough recharge for BF > AV with only 5 LotG: +7.5% recharges and a tier 3 (?) Spiritual, while still approaching 40% S/L defense. (That was also before the Agility tree, too, which would help with recharge AND defense!)Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
If I recall correctly you only need about 30-40% global recharge (And well slotted powers) for the BF > AV chain so it is quite easy to get on a DB/WP toon.
The very best DB chain of (iirc) BF > AB > SS > AB requires massive amount of recharge, and isn't realistic on a DB/WP if you want to build for defence, but it is possible to get close (Or even reach) to the 45% softcap while running BF > AV. It has been a while since I made my DB/WP but I think you may have to sacrifice the Sweep combo in order to reach the defence numbers though, so it is a balancing acts and iirc I settled on ~35% defence to all types and good regen (In hindsight it was a noob mistake to pick regen over defence and I should have aimed for ~40 defence instead of the extra regen).
I'm not sure that you need to sacrifice the Sweep combination, depending on exactly what defensive numbers you're looking for. Thanks to the Scrapper ATO set, I was able to softcap S/L and keep all of my attacks, though I've "only" got 37% Fire/Cold and 30% Energy/Negative.
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Quote:Out of curiosity, which version of Mids' are you using? The most recent appears to be Mids' Hero Designer v1.954 (Updated Mar 17, 2012 and I would have thought they'd have fixed Mids' so that Hami-O's worked properly as of Issue 22.Originally Posted by Sthorm
So, just bought a membrane exposure to put in active defense to boost the DDR, since it showed in MIDS that it would work.
But.. It doesn't show as buffed either in the enhancement screen or the combat attributes screen.
Is it changed so that it wont work anymore, a bug, or has it always been this way. Please enlighten me
But in answer to the last part of your question, yes, as of Issue 22, the CoX devs did in fact change Hami-O's so that the long-standing bug/exploit no longer worked. -
Quote:If you ask me, you've actually left a huge amount of defense out -- which you'll even notice running with teams! Based on my experience, a middle-of-the-road defense that gets boosted on teams becomes stronger, but a high-to-softcapped defense that gets boosted on teams becomes so tank-like that it's scary, even on higher difficulties! And if you're not watching your health bar and popping inspirations, you're doing more damage as a result.Originally Posted by LotusNinja
i mostly plan on running the toon with other teams so i traded a tiny amount of def for damage. i have a unlimited budget. i left out barrier so it wouldent mess up the defence numbers but i already have t3 of it.
Very few of your powers are six-slotted, which is often where you'll find the defense boosts from IO's, so I'd try to shuffle them around a bit, remembering that willpower benefits most from boosting typed defenses like smashing/lethal rather than positional defenses like melee and ranged. This means that sets like Kinetic Combat become more important for willpower scrappers than sets like Mako's Bite. Yes, they're more expensive but they really are that good, and you say you've got an "unlimited budget."
Here's a bunch of other threads on DB/WP in the past year. [Yes, each one of those links is to a different DB/WP thread! ]
Lastly, like a lot of other builds I see here, Physical Perfection is overslotted! Quick Recovery provides more "bang for the buck" in terms of endurance recovery percentages than Stamina, which itself provides twice as much recovery as Physical Perfection. Fast Healing provides more health regen than regular old Health, which still provides twice as much as Physical Perfection. (Or, to put it another way, Physical Perfection is the weakest heal/end recovery of any of those powers above, so slots there are almost always better used elsewhere.)
I'll admit that I'm NOT an expert on the highest DPS chains available to DB scrappers, but it used to be that it didn't require all that much recharge to run Blinding Feint => Attack Vitals, which used to be the top chain (I think) before people started getting heavily invested with the incarnate system. So, for the longest time, Hasten wasn't really seen as needed with Dual Blades. These days, I'm not even sure what "the" perfect chain is but I know that a LOT of the builds in the links above don't use Hasten. -
Quote:Hey, they just gave SG's Hacked Teleporters and "float/rotate" objects, as well as...umm...uhhhhhh.... Yeah, let me get back to you on that?Originally Posted by WanderingAries
Proof that they don't like SGs anymore? Just sayin. :-/
I think it's more like proof that they're just piling new buggy stuff on top of older buggy stuff and that someday -- when we least expect it -- the game's going to implode upon itself and we'll all log on and find ourselves looking at a screenfull of "Pong" in black and white.