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I still think the added convenience this brings is outweighed by the cost of having the "D" hotkey, and I can't really see just removing the Delete one.

Although, on second thought, maybe I could. Other things you might want to do fast, but do you really need to delete things "RIGHT NAO"?

Maybe that repper wasn't wrong about your lack of respect.

This is why I only team with friends, not random PuGs.

We play to have fun, not be the most efficient team ever.

I don't need SB to be a team player. Spamming a buff doesn't make you a team player. Watching the team, following the action, and taking appropriate steps makes you a team player.

On the few occasions I play my Kins, sometimes the appropriate action is casting SB on someone - usually someone that keeps bottoming out end. More often, however, the appropriate action is something else: tossing off a Hold, laying down an AoE, throwing out a Transference, Transfusion, or some other buff that isn't SB.

Casting SB doesn't make you a team player. Last time I had SB cast on me, I got overconfident with the recharge and recovery and wiped the team.

To my repper about my lack of class: people wanting SB aren't losers. People that say a Kin is worthless without SB are losers.

Here's the difference:

With a Tanker, you have lots of options. Several different defence sets. Several different offence sets. Fire/Fire is vastly different from Stone/Stone, which are both very different from WP/SS. But all are Tankers.

With VEATs, you are locked into choices. One of your costumes has to look like an Arachnos uniform. You are limited to a single selection of claws (for Widows) or a scant three selections of assault rifle (for SoAs). You are forced into a power selection of Claws/SR or AR/SR.

You are limited to a mere five options for a character - A Widow (the distinction between Blood and Night is virtually nil), a Fortunata, a Bane Spider, a Crab Spider, or the completely unintended but viable Huntsman build.

VEATs cannot be Dual Pistols/SR (probably the most requested, and most represented, example of ranged/defence in media). They cannot be Fire Blast/Fiery Aura. They cannot be Ice Blast/Stone Armour. They cannot be Archery/Ninjitsu.

VEATs are not a replacement for the Ranged/Defence AT. They are an example that the concept is not inherently broken.

Hotkeys from pop-up menus, not window toggle keys. I'm not talking about those. I'm talking about the right-click menu, where you get the options to "Delete" something - salvage, recipes, inspirations, chat tabs.

Does the pop-up menu for inspirations even have a hotkey for "Give to teammate"? How would it know which teammate?

This would only affect right-clicking something, then pressing a key to do something with it. Not macros, not keybinds, not toggles. Only right-clicking.

Read the thread, especially the follow-up posts of the OP. He did not mean to imply making Dual Pistols a Melee set, but rather letting Scrappers (or a similar AT) have a Ranged set.

Must have been the level pact and I misremembered, then.

But when I say WoW doesn't innovate, I don't mean it insultingly. WoW is very very good at what it does - adopting the best innovations from throughout the MMO industry and blending them together into a whole, "Good Parts Edition" MMO. There's absolutely nothing wrong with WoW's model. It's more-or-less Japan's economic model, and they're the second largest economy in the world.

But it takes more people than innovation off of existing systems, so it's not something a smaller studio like Paragon can even attempt.

Lord of the Rings Online did it long before WoW.

On Super Sidekicking: apologies, my information was wrong. I was told by a WoW player that WoW was doing something like that. I don't play the game.

No, it means "common usage". It's a living language; as much as I hate some of the evolutions, it does evolve.

Funny, that AT already exists, but people keep insisting on playing things other than Masterminds. I can't imagine why.

Name an innovation WoW has made.

Don't worry about it, I already know you can't.

WoW works not because it has great systems that other MMOs do not, but because it looks at the systems of other MMOs and integrates the ones that work best within itself.

WoW has borrowed heavily from CoHV in the recent past, and borrowed heavily from many other MMOs that preceded it since its inception. While the "everything to everyone" development model works for WoW, it was designed by a company with a much larger payroll to begin with, and continues to employ a much larger development base than Paragon Studios has. Paragon Studios simply does not have the man power to employ the WoW-esque "Good Parts Edition" model, and must instead innovate on its own to find good systems that work well.

Among Paragon's greatest feats to date is the Super Sidekicking system, which was quickly adopted by WoW, and the Power Customisation system, which CO beat them to the punch with only by having the freedom to use a brand new engine that could implement the system from the start, rather than having to be hacked in afterwards; the idea, however, was still CoHV's.

It's inevitable that a smaller studio will have to rely more on innovation, because cobbling together the Good Parts Edition like WoW does is, perhaps ironically, more work; it's more difficult to ensure than systems borrowed from other places fit into your existing model than it is to create brand new systems that naturally evolve from your existing model.

List of ATs that don't need other ATs:
Masterminds
Tankers
Scrappers
Brutes
Corruptors
Controllers
Blasters
Dominators
Stalkers
Defenders

Aside from HEATs, Defenders were previously the AT that seemed most designed to rely on having other team-mates. However, the recent updates to Vigilance were specifically designed to alleviate that problem and allow Defenders to stand more on their own.

VEATs, obviously, are the most tank-magey class, but the fact that a large portion of their defences come in the form of team buffs make them some of the most desired team-mates in the game.

None of these design choices have done anything to deter from the teaming aspects of the game, and none of them have made any one AT far more desirable than others. Scrappers don't dominate teaming, or gameplay, nor do VEATs, despite already being pretty much Tank-Mages.

Who. Cares?

No AT needs other ATs to do anything in this game already, and any AT is an asset to any team. The "Tank-Mage" would be no different from anything else.

This game is not built around a holy trinity of team balance, but rather around the idea of allowing players to feel powerful and have fun. The Blast(Assault)/Defence AT is so often requested, and so often represented in all media, including the comic books this game works so hard to emulate, that its exclusion from the game is almost unforgivable.

I seriously want to throttle people that say "Tank-Mage".

PS A "Tank-Mage" would have Tank-level defence with Blaster-level damage. I don't think anyone has ever proposed that archetype.

The Coalition channel is not the Super Group channel, and neither is a global channel.

I'd much prefer to read a comic about this one, though.

Your avatar represents camp, my friend. He died because he was wearing a cape.

That is the very essence of camp.

Because camp is awesome. Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb.