Durakken

Well with the comic Image cross promotes if I remember right and putting out an actual comic puts it in the hand of comic shops which promotes in their own way. Most comic shops pretty much buy anything new... all buy anything that is liekly to seel which CoH is... and you know... it hits your demographic so >.>

once you have that out there you have pretty much free monthly advertising for anything else.

the problem with rep is that it gives people an exscuse to say "proplr don't like you some reason so your advice is probably bad or wrong" which creates a loop that generates more neg rep... it's a horrible thing that turns into a boys club that only those willing to form a small cabal of people actually have good rep and are listened to... It happens on a lot of forums I've seen. Luckily there is an off switch here.

Since it sort of got overshadowed some how by the "more comics" suggestion I want to repeat...

I want a LORE book of some sort that tells us lore information. Not Mechanics information... And this is different from paragonwiki because paragonwiki focuses on mechanics and has lore as a side thing more or less that just happened to be a part of other information gathered rather than focusing on it...

Congratulations on not paying attention Johnny.

First, I don't think Manticore is the one who wrote the bible...

Second, Even if it was him who did write the bible I have to say from experience in creating large amounts of characters and ideas and lore for various worlds it's near impossible to garentee you are gonig to keep those things straight especially as time goes on and you have different views of those characters.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill, Johnny. When you get asked a question like that you generally go off memory and depending on where your memory of that detail comes from you can easily get it wrong or you could just forget. That's why you can not take what is said on the forums and in comics and such as canon. On the other hand you can take game lore as canon more often because it often has to go through several check points asking "is that right?"

I've been trying to figure out how demo record files work and after 2 days of messing with them I see this is gonna be a bit harder than I thought originally >.> mainly due to not being used to the coordinate system and not knowing the emotes well... So I may eventually get this done, but I highly doubt it...

The video idea is thus...

Vahzilok and Dr. Aeon sing "Still Alive"

Obviously need 2 different voices to sing the 2 parts.
Should take place in Vahzilok's layer for it to work...

This is roughly how I broke up the song and what's to happen in planning...

Aeon: This is a Triumph. I'm makeing a note here: Huge Success. It's hard to overstate my satisfaction... Vahzilok Science (Dr. Aeon walks into Vahzilok's Layer
Vahzilok shows 5 dead and revived heros. Aeon says "Triumph". Clipboard emote -notes down "huge success" Aeon is really happy? Some sort of celebration emote)

Vahzilok: We do what we must because we can. For the good of all of us.

Aeon: Except the ones who are dead (show pile of body bags)

Vahzilok: But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake. And the science get's done. (distracts Aeon back to the success)

Aeon: And you make a neat gun. (Aeon looks at Vahzilok's arm)

Vahzilok: For the people who are still alive (Vahzilok points at Aeon)

Aeon: I'm not even Angry. I'm being so sincere right now. Even though you broke my heart (quick scene change Aeon's on the ground) And killed me. And tore me to pieces. And through every piece into a fire. As they burnt it hurt because I was so happy for you.

Vahzilok: Now these points of data make a beautiful line. And we're out of beta. And we're realing on time. So I'm glad. (Vahzilok operates on Aeon)

Aeon: I got burned. (Aeon on operation table)

Vahzilok: Think of all the things we learned. For the people who are still alive.

Aeon: Go ahead and leave me. I think I prefer to stay inside. Maybe you'll find someone else to help you. Maybe Arachnos. THAT WAS A JOKE. HAHA. FAT CHANCE. Anyway, this cake is great. It's so delicious and moist. Look at me still talking when there's Science to do. When I look out there, it makes me GLaD I'm not you. I've experiments to run. There is research to be done. On the people who are still alive. And believe me I am still alive. I'm doing Science and I'm still alive. I feel FANTASTIC and I'm still alive. (Aeon turned into a vahz minion. Calls up Recluse and says he's still alive)

Aeon: While you're dying I'll be still alive. And when you're dead I will be still alive. (sees Vahzilok surrounded by Arachnos minions)

Aeon: STILL ALIVE (x2) (sighs at being turned into a "zombie")

Blue Battler... i think you just ruined part of the coming storm arc...

And really sorta screws with the villains side if what I think is right...

Basically I think the ultimate goal of Orobouros is to save Statesman so all the forces aren't weakened and can fend off the shivans and the coming storm... If that is correct I am highly annoyed as we as characters are supposed to be on equal grounds with the other iconic heroes and villains and it would suck that your importance is to stop to save Statesman to save the world >.>

Because of the ways games work I'd say... games all have Soft cannon, and follow Dr who lore rules which is whatever is newest is the official canon... I'd also place the site and game itself on equal footing as the site has been approved and gone through multiple channels and it's a lot harder to get things on the site than it is to get an easter egg in the game or just something that was over looked.

I wouldn't save the alternate even if I could because it could be a trick... Remember the army on the other side of the Portal is of you suggesting that almost all your alternates at least for hero-side are villains and there is no telling whether your alternate had been replaced or not.

what i meant is how do you view the progression of time through the missions... generally speaking...

Year 1 = Rookie year where you establish yourself, ussually fight street crime.
Year 2 = City relies on you more, Main Villains start coming out of the wood work
Year 3 = Joining bigger groups, or bigger groups start recognizing you, main villains become established...
Year 4 = ???

So as you go through these missions time is passing but how much and where is the imaginary dividing line between years... to me it seems that roughly every 10 levels is a year... The year 6 stuff is more or less the most recent additions, and year 7+ will be going rogue's, Icarnates, and stuff like that.

for each character though I see it as each character doing it in the same year as all the characters...

So in a sense to a lvl 1, the Praetorians don't exist yet...

What I mean is...

every level 50 can go through x missions in a given amount of time, but really those have been roughly the same missions for the last 6 years....

So When do you view the mission events to take place?


I'd say something like

Mission levels...
1-15 = Year 1
15-25 = Year 2

Going Rogue + = Year 6+?

Not talking about just power or stats wise... but their character and how it does it's thing and why and all like that...


Miss Liberty is somewhat like Wonder Woman


I don't think that the reason it's hard to place the villains is because they are unique but rather the villains themselves haven't been fleshed out much... Many of them are the comic equivilent of one shots and haven't been very fleshed out because they aren't very reoccuring.

Everyone says that Statesman is the Superman of CoH... and the shear fact of the matter is that no matter how original you try to be archtypes of characters do come up...

So Who are the Analogs of well known iconic heroes of other universes in the CoH universe...

Manticore is more or less the analog of Batman
Recluse is more or less the analog of Magneto

Where's the Oracle?
Where's the Joker?
Where's the X-men?
Where's Professor X?

No because if it was meant in a hyperbolic way it would mean that Statemen was using his power to get laid.