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Batgirl #1: I thought this was a garanteed hit for me what with it being Barbara Gordon, Batgirl, and Gail Simone, but no the whole thing is trash and does a complete diservice to everything that came before as far as the character, both Batgirl and Barbara Gordon, what she hs come to symbolize (women's rights and handicap empowerment)... It does pay homage to 1 Batgirl though... the utter crap that shouldn't exist that turned the confident exubrant brave courageous Barbara Gordon... into a scared little girl who can't handle herself. Sorry, but this isn't the character anyone has know and always loved...
Side Note: It's mentioned that the joker incident happens 3 years ago which pretty much means CoIE happened 3 years ago. Dick could only have been Robin 2 years and Tim only a max of 3. Further a number of stories must be compressed beyond breaking and Birds of Prey seems to not have happened at all considering Barbara's Living conditions...
Men of War #1: Good book. Someone with more military and in particular served in Iraq would be better to say how acurate it is but it is a great platform for showing the DCU from the side of heroes...however I'm betting that this book will be Canceled in the first year or two.
Green Arrow #1: This is more or less just a Beat em up other than that It's meh. It rips off Smallville Ollie, takes away being public, removes the political activism, and intros a character that is like Chloe but isn't Chloe... they should have just introed Chloe since they've been trying to for years.
Batwing #1: This is more or less just a Beat em up other than that It's pretty much a bastardized version of an old Nightwing arc where he joins the police save it is set in Africa with a black character... who because the artist can draw black characters differently I can't tell the difference between any of the characters when they are out of costume.
Animal Man #1: I'm intrigued by what is happening but i'm also confused. It feels a lot like the movie "What dreams may come" inspired. It didn't wow me, but it's probably worth picking up the first arc or two to see how things go.
Swamp Thing #1: Another good book that is likely to be soon canceled. It started off good and didn't try to "sell" itself like a... well you get what I mean. I don't like the concept that much myself, but the whole book was well executed and it does a good job introducing the character rather than destroying everything that people love about the character or not introing them at all. It leaves you with a cliff hanger with clues as to what might be going wrong with things and it knows that we need to know about the character more than the "enemy" in this first issue. It also doesn't confuse us, the reader, and doesn't seem forced. Over all I'd say it's the best of 6 I've read so far with Men of War a close second followed by Animal Man in 3rd...
Side Note: Holland says he was revived 6 weeks ago placing the end of Brightest DAy 6 weeks ago...
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Of course if you really want to take it to the extreme... you haven't moved at all and haven't existed before now and won't exist afterwords but then you really never stopped or started existing to begin with but whatever...
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Quote:suuure though it's been like a decade since I programmed anything on an AS-400 and I'd have to relearn it which would take a few hours >.>Heh my employer uses the AS-400 system... err OS... err whatever you want to call it, want a link to thier employment app?
They like to update the AS-400 every coupla years and my regional boss tells me how they have shell out big bucks for folks to write code for it when they do. -
I'll probably give my review of all 12 issues tomorrow or the next day... I'm finishing up Ultimate Fantastic Four and X-men today... I'm betting that i'll like 3-5 of the 12 and even if I like them I'll still be annoyed with the changes.
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That's not what I said. I said what you said is in Action #1 is a pretty weird interpretation of Superman's action
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Quote:I'm a little concerned with your interpretation of the original Action Comics #1... considering Superman was not young and he didn't so much as fight as he broke into the governors house, assaulted his employee, and pretty much forced the governor to let a prisoner free who had been sentenced to death legally... beat up a wife beater, stopped lois from maybe being kidnapped... and then listened in on a private conversation between government officials and then threatened a guy to "come clean" with who was "corrupting" the official... So he was more of a spastic psychopath that had pretty much no respect for the system in Action #1... and given his actions if that's what he was doing when he was young then the public would have every reason to be afraid of him.Action Comics #1 was fanatastic. It's modernized, but harkens back to the original Action Comics #1 -- a young, angry Superman that's more into social justice than fighting petty criminals. He's stirring up hornet's nests at the top of the food chain, but the people love him and trust him.
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Quote:uhhh noI call Incan/Aztec extinction. You don't need to kill everyone, as soon as you decimate a couple thousand soldiers with a 'god-weapon' like a gun or cannon, the power of fear will give you the advantage. Never underestimate the ability of a shock and awe campaign against a technologically disadvantaged enemy. The Spanish shouldn't have won against the native Americans, but they inspired fear because of their weapons, their horses, even their color of skin.
Native there never fought because they thought the spaniards were the fulfillment of a prophecy and treated them as good gods. By the time they figured they weren't gods they were dying of various diseases. -
I am so torn between these two it's kinda amusing...
Can't you take this elsewhere and stop hi-jacking my thread? -
The ancients had a whole different concept of "gods" than what modern day theists call god. The things that they called gods could be killed, weren't omnipotent and there were many gods and many pantheons. There wasn't "one true god" and there wasn't "one true pantheon." People could become gods or were gods or were sons and daughters of gods. Not to mention their outlook on life and the afterlife was different as well. All Romans went to the same place. If you died courageously or some such you got to go to Elysium which was just a separate area of the same place.
Quote:Again, I'm not convinced the Marines would even bother attacking the Romans in force. It's not like Marines don't have their own compliment of nerds and geeks throughout the command structure. The second they figure out time travel has occured, I think they're more likely to pull back for a 'command-level' rethink and evaluation
Afterall, these are not stupid people. Stupid people don't get promoted in the Marines. Stupid people get their people killed without benefit, which kinda halts promoton prospects in the modern military. Smart Marines will want to know *exactly* what's going on, and what effect they are having. They are going to recon, and attempt to question natives.
In a unit that size, it is entirely possible there will be a couple of Marines who can speak and/or read Latin. Which means that with a lot of effort on both sides, communication is possible. (Living Latin as actually used by the common man being sufficiently different from Classical Latin as taught in schools that the communication will not be easy.)
This is not to say that they won't end up fighting Romans. Just that there is a lot more going on than 'Marines automatically shoot anything that moves.'
Also, the Romans legions have a good compliment of smart people in them as well. Unlike what movies and what-not teach, just because they existed two thousand years ago does not make them naturally stupid. We are not naturally any smarter on average than they were. When Roman legions ran into people who had better tech/tactics than they did, they didn't try to steamroll them, they tried a variety of non-military tactics to co-opt them. Celtic cavalry and ironsmiths, goth mercenaries, eastern bowmen, all got hired on/incorporated into the Roman empire. Because the Romans were experts with a skill that isn't based on tech/tactics. Making good-sounding deals. Given half a chance, I think the Romans would rather make a deal with the Marines than try to fight them.
another thing is you might have a dispute between killing the Romans or making a deal with them and you'd likely have some soldiers deciding that it is better to be a Roman king than a grunt in the Marines. -
Quote:It's not exactly true about viruses though...Yeah, but the Marines carry antibiotics, and the strains that would exist in the Roman world would not be resistant. Doesn't do anything for viruses, of course, but having modern sanitation, treated water and antibiotics would mean that the advantage in disease resistance is definitely in the Marine's favor. Having access to Navy corpsmen who know a thing or two about modern medicine isn't a bad thing, either.
Virus evolve and change over time, but so does our immune system. It's highly possible that a lot of our viral descendants are enough of a match that our immune systems just ignore them, but it's also possible that we carry a ton of super strong pathogens that Europe, Asia, and Africa have literally 0 immunity to due to our advanced medicine making them stronger + them coming from America + us having a global civilization. -
Quote:Modern people have a different understanding of what gods are. A religion might spring up, but more than likely the romans would view the Marines as humans endowed the an evil god's power, or evil gods that they need to kill.**EDIT**
Had to go to the store and during my mindless/droning walk up and down the isles...this scenario popped back into my head. Talking about Marines "going crazy", running off, conducting suicide pacts etc...what about the Romans? How many of these soldiers would lay down their weapons, commit suicide or flee at the sight of this technology that resembles the gods coming to their doorstep with flying steel dragons and men in armored beasts? Seems like the Romans would break from morale failure way sooner than our Marines.
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Quote:1) I think not waiting to find out is kinda foolish. We're talking a confirmation on a part of a religion that could change your destiny and how you think and act.The problem with this line of thinking is a few...
1) Even if they thought to look, what makes you think they wouldn't wait to find answers. Get the job done first, then if that doesn't get them home, they can go and look.
2) Right or wrong. Doesn't mean suicide or getting reckless. Plenty people of faith lose their faith and don't become reckless/suicidal about it. Those who gain a new faith if found to be true would then what? Not become a Judas to their fellow soldiers and finish the task at hand.
As mentioned, this is one grasping at straws. Not to mention, we living in the now, have no idea if it's true or not (outside of one's faith) so putting that into the equation, I don't think works.
But if you do, refere to the above. They decide their faith is wrong. Then go on living to make a lasting impression another way. Taking out all those Romans, and changing history, with their names in the books! \o/
2) It only takes a few to go off the deep end and after one breaks the probability of others breaking rises and as more break so too do that probability of more.
I thought I covered this... if people found it to be true and actually understood the meaning of it being true is it would lead to them being followers or in cases like me they'd have almost no change other than a laugh that "hey at least they're vindicated in saying I'm going to hell"
Actually, becoming like Judas should be considered a good thing. Judas was loyal and he was given the task of selling Jesus out because he was the most loyal and the most understanding of why it needed to happen. He didn't betray anyone. He was given a mission that any other disciple would not have been able to follow through on. He's the good guy in the story despite what the churches feed people.
I think just the fact that the opportunity exists and someone would point it out would be enough to screw with the Marines. Some would rebel and some would desert and some would try to mutiny. I think that a like thing to happen pretty quickly and the longer the stay the longer the idea will fester. -
Quote:I think the crazy is far more insidious than you think.Right wing, left wing, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, whatever, at the end of the day they are Marines above all else. Fought together, bled together, lived together. They may not always get along, but at the end of the day, they'll have each other's backs.
Also, anyone who says they are a Marine above all else is far too easily programmed and have faced deeper programming all their lives so i doubt they got away from it.
I'm not saying everyone would just fall apart or that all Marines are Christian, but if we apply population percentages and the likely hood that one of them would realize the opportunity they had and what they could find out... Well the fact of the matter is whether someone finds out there was a dude raising the dead or that it was all made up or somewhere in between there isn't a single person that was genuinely interested in truth wouldn't go and find out what they could... And given the probabilities the christian marines would find out that what they believe is wrong which would likely completely a number of their beliefs in the after life...
It's one thing to believe in an after life and be a soldier and to be one while not believing and given that short time period to incorporate that knowledge and while your on the battle field there would be several reactions from hiding, to suicide, to spastic because they now are hyper aware of their immortality, or spastic based on believing that nothing matters... to little to no reaction at all, but the more likely is one of the former.
If there was a Yeshua those very same christians would like abandon their mission follow Jesus around as might muslims and jews.
Other religions would be unaffected if it is false...
if it's true other religions might convert and desert to follow while some of the more skeptical would likely wonder how it's done and try to ask what how it was done and/or try to test his knowledge to confirm or disconfirm claims, but ultimately be unaffected and just consider it a curiosity...or try to take him back to the present. -
Quote:Seeing as how this is suppossed to be at the height of the Roman empire, wouldn't they have to wait awhile for that, not to mention, for all you know, they could find out how right they are.
So in this case, I'd say it's best to leave that bit out.Quote:I thought the Marines were being dropped in around 24 BC - which means they'd have roughly 18 to 19 years before it could be an issue.
Yeshua if he existed existed around that period.
So if you are aiming at that period you are aiming at a 50/50 shot of ending up in the time period... and even if not him his parents or even John the Baptist all lived in that span of time...
So if you couldn't find any evidence it would be highly likely that it didn't exist at all. -
Because of my back problems and the fact it doesn't heal or anything like that I'd sell rights to various companies to study the various aspects of it for a limited time making a ton of cash ^.^
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Funny thing there might be a massive morale issue that people don't realize...
A lot of Military are religious, in particular Christian. That time period would be where they could easily find evidence or be shown how wrong they are and it is almost 100% certain someone will come up with checking it all out or trying to stop that from happening... This will result in finding out what the truth is and some having their entire world view completely rewritten. How this would play out would have a big impact on the morale of the Marines. -
Quote:According to that I would be able to get up o 17th or 19th centuryOk everyone, a quiz that asks, How far can you jumpstart technology?
http://theuniverseas.com/how-useful-...echnology-quiz
And a cheat sheet.
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8208/timetechlg.jpg
I got 7 out of 10 right
And what I got wrong was
1st, 2nd, and 4th
1st. metalurgy...
2nd. i thought that type engine looked different...
4th. and i've never cared about vulcanizing tires or know what that even means. -
Quote:Yeah...and not to mention it's much more interesting to explore the other side of the equation... a trusting populous and a flawed hero that has to fight to take advantage of it.I don't. That's one of the most tiresome of tiresome comic book clichés. It's a sop modern comics writers throw in so that the Jaded Ironic Ennui crowd can get over its innate rejection of good for good's sake (which is what superheroes are supposed to be about) and buy the books anyway.
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I don't care whether there are bad sides to modern civilization and that's not what I asked nor do I appreciate the blatant hi-jack of the topic.
I'm asking could you, with your knowledge, given all the workers and materials, reconstruct civilization or parts of it. Could you get aquifers working? Could you get paper? Books? printing presses? Would you know how to farm and irrigate land? Could you build the tool needed to do so? Would you know how to build an economy, fashion a city, build roads, have lights, provide electricity? What about smelting metal? Mining? extracting ore? Do you have the knowledge to work out architecture and building materials that would last?
Obviously there are things that we could improve on and we'd implement those things, but I don't care about that... could you, using your knowledge, rebuild a civilization that wouldn't just fall apart and how advanced towards modernity could you get it? -
I'm curious how much of modern civilization do you think you could reintroduce if you were to suddenly find your self in a world where you had to use your own knowledge to re-build civilization, but you had all the laborers and such you needed.
Do you think that you would be able to successfully remake cities that work and are well laid out, lighting, engines, electricity, get water, dispose of waste, farm food and transport it to where it needs to be, create an economic system, military, etc that would work and how close do you think you could get to a modern city using just your knowledge?
I think personally I could get to or very close to a later 1800s, early 1900s city... but I'd struggle past that point cuz metalurgy and smelting and how cathodes and such work is not something i know much about... i'd be able to reinvent the silent movie, but without metalurgy I'm pretty sure even with all the other knowledge i don't think i could make planes, cars, and jets, but things that are simpler using those concepts. -
Quote:Yeah... the entire "reboot" seems to be fueled by 2 thingsBecause Jim Lee is in charge!
Seriously!
Jim Lee was at Marvel, then at Image/WildStorm where the settings had the public not trusting superheroes.
Now, I'm not saying it's a bad setting obviously, as I love Marvel and used to love Image, but it's not really how DC treated their heroes.
Superman! He was trusted by the masses! The JL in general, trusted by the masses.
Johns love of rebooting and rewriting characters his way...
Lee not wanting HIS universe to die and be forgotten... -
Quote:interesting factoid...I'm giving the benefit of the doubt that he's less of an urban legend in the last 5 years, due to his involvement with the Justice League, and that Stephanie Brown (assuming that her brief stint as Robin is still canon) and Damian are both within the last 5 years.
Batman, in the cannon of pre-DCnU, was still a semi-urban legend 5 years ago. 5 years ago is when Tim Drake stopped being robin briefly and Stephanie took up that mantle... No Man's Land was only a year or 2 previous to that when he made his first wide scale appearances...and it was until Tim came back as Robin (or was about) that Batman was filmed for the first time. -
Quote:You forget that Rome is a very big area and the Legions are camped all around it. No matter what you do you are going to have to hit one side then fly to the other. and that takes a lot more fuel than they'd likely have.It would also take an afternoon. Seriously. Air superiority is no joke. You could fly anywhere in the empire in three hours and scatter any legion to the winds with strafing and bombing runs. The survivors wouldn't want to fight such a foe *ever* again. They don't know that the marines will run out of fuel soon - the damage is already done: The sky chariots can come any time you assemble an army and smite it with Zeus's own lightning.
No, they won't. Aerial recon provides each legions position and approximate numbers. Vehicles get the marines to the legion more than 10 times faster (30 miles a day for the legion, 30 miles an HOUR in bad terrain for a humvee or APC). Once again an enemy that displays in the first month the ability to find you no matter where you stage and strike at you before you're even aware they've mobilized would be an insurmountable morale route for the legions.
You can't forge modern weapons without modern tools. Any low tech knockoff the legions might be able to cobble together will be unable to penetrate modern ballistic armor, nor have the range to even try. And marines don't leave their weapons lying around a battlefield. See The Rifleman's Creed
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Quote:It depends what you are looking to do with each. Walk cycles can be really complex as can attack animations... idle animations depends on what you mean by idle. Run isn't so hard to animate because we all run in pretty much the same way.Which is harder to animate?
By this I mean, for example, a walk cycle, a run cycle, an 'attack animation' cycle and an idle animation cycle.
The reason a walk cycle can get complex is because of "personality" Goofy for example has a pretty famous walk cycle where his foot start out backwards. That's to add personality. Just a straight forward walk cycle is simple though.
An attack cycle's complexity is based on personality and what you are doing. Some are as easy as lifting the arm up and you're done. Others require several layers of movements...
Personally I'd say for character animation the walk cycle is harder because it has to be just right and you need to understand the psychology of the character... but for games attack animations are likely harder.
Quote:1) The races are incredibly different to each other so it effectively means designing 3 sets of loot per item. Is this a similar problem to CoH's current rigs? Since we're often told that Male, female and Huge all need to be accounted for and designed for seperately but obviously to a lesser degree since all are humanoid in that regards. However CoH has the sliding scales which I imagine would add even more work instead of a static 'race' with no sliders.
Quote:2) Two of the races don't even have hands...how would you animate the other two races utilizing weapons?
Quote:3) One race has no way of wearing armour, how do you got about representing the armour on that race (a suggestion was have the slime 'swallow' the armour so it floats around inside).
So thats my questions for you people with knowledge of these matters. -
What does "destroy" Rome mean... If we're talking the city that would take an afternoon
If we mean take out all the legions it depends how smart the marines are and how the Romans react.
I the Marines have to rack down all the Legions they are going to lose. Their electronics and vehicles won't last long enough to do it. they'll run out out of bullets before they get through all 250,000 Romans and a lot of their other arms would become too heavy to march around with.
The Romans are pretty smart so any weapon left lying around like would eventually happen would likely get back engineered a bit and they'd start forging bullets themselves. I have little doubt in this because they'd likely had seen eastern gun powder devices and it probably would take much to put the two together.
The Marines would likely start picking up some of the armor simply cuz it's more effective in some of the circumstances they are in.