DreadShinobi

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Mauk -

Nice.

You can use Burnout to effectively increase Unstoppable's duration to 6 minutes, but it won't do anything to alleviate the crash.

Elec is going to be your best bet of the 3, especially since you're planning on capping S/L.

More auras can mean more lag. Especially with leagues now, if 24 people all had 2-3 auras on it would definitely be a hit to performance.

I don't know if you were around when the original hami raids happened (before the zone capped at 50 people) but the general accepted attire was no aura, no cape, for obvious reasons of lag.

Take it for concept if you really want to, just keep

Could always run fraps while fighting antimatter

You shouldn't be double stacking rage for DPS. The more often you use rage the more often you are crashed and unable to deal any damage, the only reason to double stack rage is Burst damage.

Also Arachnos with an option for Bane Spider Executioners instead of Toxic Tarantulas

Crey with Paragon Protector Elites

[offtopic] Then there is Carrion Creepers from plant control that is arguably one of the best herding powers in the game because of all the respawning pets, herding the entire ITF roofs just with carrion creepers is childs play [/offtopic]

Supposedly claws/fire brutes are really good in the aoe department, though I have never played one since I have my ss/fire brute. As mentioned scrappers will benefit more from follow up, musculature, and +dmg set bonuses and/or buffs. Personally I can't stand playing scrappers that aren't /SD and claws can't be paired with shields.

Oh god, so much stuff in this thread since I last checked it...

New Dawn, you are basing far too much of your argument on the assumption that Brutes are idiots and the only people that can tank properly are Tanks. First off Brutes aren't idiots, people are idiots, if people want to play like **** that is their decision, it has nothing to do with the archetype. While we're at it, most people play multiple ATs, so calling Brute's idiots and the cause of team wipes is rather silly since many people who play Brutes also play Tanks. There is nothing stopping a Brute from playing like a Tank or a Tank from playing like a Brute.


Next, Tanks don't need more damage. Now I am not saying Tank damage is good nor is it bad, but it certainly does not need, or should get a buff. If tank damage was buffed it would be stepping all over the toes of Brutes and Scrappers, who have less base survivability compared to tanks. Tanks make up their for their lesser damage with higher base mitigation. Even if that higher mitigation isn't as useful as higher damage (especially in a game like this) it can't be simply thrown out the window and disregarded when you cry for a damage buff, things need to be balanced, one AT can't have everything.

And while I'm on the subject of Tanks not needing more damage they don't need more survivability either, typically tanks have far more survivability than they would ever realistically need.


Another thing I am constantly hearing is that Tanks need stronger aggro control. But let's first look at what the point of aggro control is ie: not letting the less durable AT's get hit and keeping mobs from running all over the place. Now let's look at why people think Tank aggro control is weak ie: Tanks losing their aggro control to Brutes and/or Scrappers. The problem is it really DOES NOT matter whether the mobs are attacking a Brute or Scrapper or Tank as long as they aren't attacking "squishy" members of the team and that the mobs aren't running all over the place, then it is fine. All the time I see melee AT's having their little taunt wars in every single group, and as long as the mob is looking at them instead of that other melee AT with high resistance and softcapped defense that wouldn't really care if they were being attacked or not.... then they are winning. To keep mobs off "squishies" Tanks really have all the tools they need already (attacks with a high threat modifier, gauntlet in attacks, taunt auras, and the actual ability taunt), the only argument you could make for wanting better taunt capabilities is if you are complaining about Scrappers or Brutes stealing your thunder, which is pointless.

Now going forward with that is what happens when you reach the aggro cap and enemies start looking at squishies, this really is the only way a Tank (or Brute or Scrapper) can fail at (their already superior) aggro management. If anything tankers could make good use out of an increased aggro cap, as that would pertain to one of their 2 main purposes (survivability, aggro management). Tankers sacrifice damage in exchange for higher survivability, however they don't really have anything to leverage that higher survivability over Brutes/Scrappers who have less base durability. And no, I don't mean that Tankers should auto-win your petty taunt-wars against that Brute on your team, aggro control is part of the Brute AT as well, the point is to keep the "squishy" ATs in an encounter safe and to control all the aggro of an encounter, when many encounters involve more than 16 mobs. An increased aggro cap would give them a purpose to their higher survivability, though with that said I think that the aggro cap should only be increased slightly, lets say to 20 and at the absolute most 24, I think any more than that is pushing it. It should also be noted that a higher aggro cap will make the "1 tanker is fine on a team, but 2 tankers is bad/useless" issue worse, which someone else brought up.


Tankers are numerically balanced. The only problem with the tanker AT, as I said before, is that their higher survivability is completely unnecessary in a game like this. That doesn't mean they should get higher damage though, as that would throw off the balance, if you want more damage and less survivability play a Brute, concept has no bearing on numbers, if you think you should have both brute damage and tanker survivability you have entitlement issues.

Fire/Kin trollers dont need any IOs to be effective farmers.