Draggynn

Now that sounds reasonable to me. I lowballed my number after you came in so low because I hadn't checked the markets in a while, thought maybe I was completely off. On the bright side though, unlike some builds, for this one the IOs are entirely purchasable by merits.

That is a VERY LOW estimate. You couldn't even craft all of the enhancments for that much if you got them as drops and you're probably looking at a hundred million inf just for the numina, miracle and LotGs (unless the markets have changed radically recently). Although the build doesn't have any purple IOs, it's still a build towards the higher end of the price range.

edit: removed prices that were far too low.

Ah Yes, good times. If I recall correctly the contaminated will start having a chance to respawn after 30 minutes and will be a forced respawn after 2 hours (at least that's what I seem to recall from those days), but yes Ouroboros is much easier.

Obviously the chance that a proc will go off will depend on the chance the proc will fire at all (purple damage procs are 33%, most other damage procs are 20%). Assuming 2 20% damage procs in a power then there is a
4% chance of both procs going off (that's the 1/5 of 1/5) and a 32% chance of a single proc going off, which means that there is a 36% chance that any proc will go off (I think the probabilities are against you that Post is referring to, is that there is only a 36% chance for a proc to go off rather than a 40% chance).

Expanding to the 6 procs (we'll assume all at 20%) there is still a 26% chance (rounding numbers) that no proc at all will go off.

the chance that 1 proc will go off is : 39%
the chance that 2 procs will go off is: 25%
the chance that 3 procs will go off is: 8%
the chance that 4 procs will go off is: 1.5%
the chance that 5 procs will go off is: ~0.15%
the chance that 6 procs will go off is: 0.006%

These percentages are found by multiplying the chance a particular combination of firing and not firing will occur by the number of ways that the particular combination can occur. So...for the 2 procs example:

you need for 4 of the procs to not fire (.8 * .8 * .8 * .8) and two of the procs to fire (.2 * .2) = 1.64%

then there are 6*5/2*1 = 15 ways to choose which procs those two are going to be (there are 6*5 ways to choose procs if order matter, 6 choices for the first proc and the remaining 5 procs for the second. However choosing proc A and then proc B is the same as choosing proc B and proc A since order does not matter). so 15 * 1.64 = 24.57%

Oh, figured you must have edited this about the +recharge proc. you'er correct the +recharge proc will not stack with itself, and if it fires while the buff is still active, it will do nothing. However, i will second that it is very good in footstomp (and other aoe powers) because it hits so many targets and it has a chance to fire on each one and footstomp has a low recharge time.

Well, you will have a better attack chain, with the current build, but I would probably drop power burst to fit in steamy mist. Because of freezing rain, you can reasonable make use of veteran attack powers in a way that other builds can't and expect them to hit in order to fill in the holes in your attack chain. Of course missing the hard hitter will significantly lower your damage output, so it depends on your priorities.

Gah, thank you for pointing that out. Just to clarify it is -5 for all ATs with Thermal Radiation, there are no AT distinctions at this point.

I also discovered two more powers I was missing:

Widow > Poison Dart: -.25 for 15 seconds; 4 second recharge
Widow > Dart Burst: -.25 for 15 seconds; 8 second recharge

I believe that trap lasts for 30 seconds and ticks a debuff which lasts 10 seconds, in which case the debuff should be -10 for 40 seconds (as long as the mob stays within the poison trap, or 10 seconds after they leave). with a recharge of 90 seconds.

Although not yet a defender power:
Poison > Envenom: Regeneration -0.5 for 30s; Recharge 12 seconds
Thermal Radiation> Heat Exhaustion: Regeneration -6.92 (Corr/Cont) -5.19(MM) for 40s: Recharge 120s

Psionic Tornado is also Knock Up.

Although LS x3 might be possible without Purple IOs and lots of LOTG, the slotting to achieve such would be so horrendous it wouldn't be worth the sacrifice. LS x3 is something to build towards rather than something to achieve right now.

I agree with all of Psylenz's suggestions which Garent's build incorporates.

Because Storm is so endurance heavy if you were to "upgrade" the relatively low cost build that Garent posted I would start by investing in additional endurance through the Numina, and Miracle uniques, and the Performance Shifter +endurance Proc.

As Psylenz said, the force feedback proc will no longer have any effect (in fact nothing will) on how often LS fires. In issue 14 all pets and pseudopets were made immune to +recharge changes, so although the proc will fire, it will have no effect. It used to be that the proc would enhance LS's recharge and since each bolt can hit up to 5 targets, there was a decent chance of the proc going off thereby reducing the 5 second recharge on LS's bolts allowing them to fire more frequently. Now, the only effect you will see from the proc is a chance for the +recharge to be applied to you at the time that you use LS, which is not up frequently enough to justify the proc.

Just to put this in perspectives AVs will resist To-Hit Debuffs by 85%(@lvl 50): http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Archvillain
and the purple patch means that higher levels enemies will resist by:
+1: 10%
+2: 20%
+3: 35%
+4: 52% (This means on Recluse's Lts. in the STF To-Hit Debuffs are basically useless).
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Purple_Patch

So although they are equivalent, as many have said, because defense can't be resisted it's much more effective.

I think, especially on the forums, Fire, that you will find very few defenders who "just mash healing buttons" and most defenders who you encounter that do this will be derided as being incompetant.

As many people have stated one of the many joys of this game, is that ATs aren't pigeon holed into roles and can all provide a variety of services. My Storm/Psy will often open fights with Psionic Tornado followed by Freezing Rain, the combined knock up and knock down delaying the alpha and giving me time to set up debuffs.

Alrighty then, that sounds like independent confirmation to me. Anyone feel like changing the wiki so that we don't have to have this conversation again? (I've never done anything on the wiki and am afraid of screwing up formatting and whatnot if I try).

It was so powerful before suppression was implemented because it was firing 100% of the time. Just verified on test alternating with gale and psionic tornado while monitoring real numbers that you can get the proc to fire again two seconds after the proc has fired. Verified by someone else using the proc in dwarf form PB attacks on live.

However I never saw the proc fire while the buff was active, so there may now be a suppression period while the buff is active that prohibits another from being cast, but there no longer appears to be a suppression period after the buff has expired. (Although an unusual behavior, this would be consistent with the way magic fortunes work). I also no longer see the former behavior of a partial buff occurring after the suppression has expired.

more testing will need to be done to determine exactly what the current rules are, but I can say with complete certainty that the wiki page is no longer accurate.

Milady, unless you have tested this since i15 came out, you are working on old information. There is no longer a suppression on the force feedback proc. If you have tested since i15 then this proc continues to lay claim to the most changed proc and they have reinstated the suppression timer.