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Quote:It's not at all necessary. I probably should have ignored the childish initial post putting down our accomplishments (as I have in the past), but sometimes I give in to the mad impulse to assert myself in the defense of others. I think I maintained a degree of decorum, nonetheless.Is all of this really necessary?
I thought this was supposed to be a happy thread...
It's going to be a big, fun event, and I'm sure everyone's going to enjoy it, regardless of the fact that others wanting to pooh-pooh our reaching the #1 slot on the Top-100 list as no real achievement.
In the future, I'll just pat them on the head, smile and nod.
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Quote:Hi, Inferno. Thanks for chiming in. Actually I have a very small ego!But I truly think maybe you should dem down your ego just a bit. I mean you and your SG didn't do it alone. You had friends and other well known SGs help you and team with you along the way. So really think bout it again "The TRUE" meaning of number 1 super group on Guardian. And that is all I'm saying so take it to however you take it.....
But clearly, there's an issue here with people not reading (or understanding) posts.
I'll state it again -- hmm, no -- I've said it three times already.
I'll try it with big letters!That usually works, right?
Rule #1: The Rank of an SG/VG is based on the Top-100 List.
When ANY SG says they are #1, #5, Top-10, etc., it refers to their position on the Top-100 List.
So Celebrating being in the Top-10 means what?See Rule #1.
Celebrating being the #1, 2, 5, etc., SG on any server means what?See Rule #1.
That's what this Celebration is about.
Hopefully that's clearer than the last three times I said it.
No other SG should feel threatened, diminished, maligned, reduced, impugned or otherwise in any way insulted, berated, mocked, etc., by our reaching the top (#1) position on the Top-100 List.
We love everyone, and respect everyone, and give you big fuzzy hugs. Yes. You're all awesome possum.
However, in the same breath, no one should say that we're not at the top of that list. It took us a long time to get there.
It's the only system for Ranking SGs that exists in CoX.
There is NO other way to say you're the #1, 5, 10, 20, etc. SG on any server. That's WHAT people mean.
Like I said before, it is what it is.
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Quote:Hello yet again, Wulfman! Welcome back to our happy little Event thread.That may seem like a small, purely semantic difference to you, and for some people, I think it is. Likewise, I think most people know what you meant, even if it wasn't presented in writing the way you say it was intended.
To try and be clearer still, the only way you can say an SG is #1, #2, #5, Top-10, Top-100, etc., is by referencing their position on the Top-100 List. There is no other interpretation -- that's WHY people naturally think of it that way.
It's not a semantic difference -- it's the only way to look at it. Everything else is subjective, as there is no other ranking system in place in all of CoX.
For example, you could SAY that you're the #1 SG in a given activity, such as running MoSTFs, but as there is no game-based ranking system in place in the game for that activity, it would just be hearsay. Another SG could have done it in half your best time and you would never know about it if they didn't say it, and couldn't prove they didn't if they did say it.
I refer to the only official, game-based ranking system for SGs that exists.
If you want to assume things that aren't implied in that, I can't really be responsible for your decision to do so, but I assure you that your assumptions in this regard have never once been brought up by anyone else -- they are most likely yours alone. I feel that I have amply clarified the issue now three times over, and so I am not really certain why you keep pressing it.
Quote:The last thing that you or anyone else should want is for that celebration to be lessened because of inaccuracies in advertising or questionable claims.
There is only one ranking system in CoX for SGs and VGs to say they are #1, #2, #5, Top-10, etc. -- the Top-100 List.
And we're at the top of it.
That's not inaccurate -- it's a fact. *shrug* It is what it is.
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Hi again, Wulfman!
My goodness, who would have thought you'd come again so quickly. Welcome back!
Don't worry -- your opinion (to which you're certainly entitled) doesn't rain on anyone's parade.
I'll explain a little more clearly for you, since I think you didn't understand my last post.
I said the only system that exists in the game for ranking SuperGroups in the Game is the Top-100 list -- to which you agreed, but I think you don't seem to understand.
When we talk about Ranked SGs, or "Top 10", etc., that's what we're talking about. Their Rank on the Top-100 List.
I'm very happy for you if you feel your SG has mastered a given TF or Trial, and claim to be (or even are) the best at it. How awesome for your SG!
But ... that's not what we're talking about.
I'm also really happy if you feel your SG is great in PvP -- you should compete in the PvP Events we're throwing, win them all, and prove how awesome you are to everyone.
But ... that's not what we're talking about.
We're not trying to say that our SG is better than yours -- which clearly seems to be what you're thinking. My goodness, perish the thought that we would ever put down another SG, however small or large it may be! That's not our style at all. We're very happy for you and your SG to have (and enjoy) all the success that you can earn for yourselves.
However, we are the #1 Ranked SG on Guardian, and it is about reaching this point, after almost six years of effort, that we are celebrating. Just as we celebrated in 2009 reaching the Top 10, and in 2008 for reaching the Top 20.
When you speak about Rank there is only one arbiter -- the Top-100 List. QED.
I hope that is a little clearer?
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Hi Wulfman --
Thanks for coming to the thread and sharing your thoughts with everyone.
The only system for ranking SG/VGs that exists in the game is the Top-100 list.
This is -- of course -- a celebration for becoming the #1 Ranked SG/VG on that list.
Just as our last celebration in 2009, for joining the "Top 10", referred to that list.
And as our celebration before that, in 2008, for joining the "Top 20" referred to it.
No one has ever ever before (I daresay) thought it would (or could) mean anything else.
Every SG considers themselves the "#1 SG" in terms of their circle, and that's fine.
But -- when referring to Ranked SGs -- the Top-100 List is the only arbiter.
I'm looking forward to seeing you and your SG at the event! Be well, take care!
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That's the picture I had of him!
-- Vivian -
Hi Blood!
I still remember your winning costume from our last event!
I'm looking forward to this year's excellent entry!
-- Vivian -
Happy New Year, everyone! I'm looking forward to teaming with you all in 2011!
May your bacon stay crispy as we await the unlocking of more Incarnate Slots!
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Yes, gratz gratz, Shadow, on your hard work and success!
I hope your SG's next five years are even more fun and successful than the last!
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Oh, I didn't mind!
It was funny!
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Quote:In the past, we have held events in other Zones. Our 3.5 Billion Event in October of 2009, that we held for reaching the Top-10, was held in Kings Row. However, this year we felt that Atlas Park was the most ideal zone, since this is the place where it all began -- it is only proper that we come full circle.Would it be a good idea to move some of the activities to, say, galaxy city?
The Events are being held in succession, not simultaneously. I.e., we are not running the PvP Events and Costume Contest at the same time. So we can't split the events across multiple zones.
I have requested via e-mail to the devs that the zone occupancy limit for Atlas on Guardian be raised for this day, but I have not yet received a reply. Ideally they will raise it to a high enough number to enable everyone to get in.
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Thank you Kragothe! It's going to be awesome possum!
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Quote:All Zones have an occupancy limit. As that limit is neared, an additional "instance" of that Zone is automatically spawned by the Server. Atlas Park is no different in this respect.Would Atlas Park spawn another instance of itself, like Eden or the Rikti War Zone?
I have requested that the occupancy limit of Atlas Park on Guardian be increased for the day of the event, but I have not yet received a reply.
Quote:would EE send representatives into those other instances?
If you cannot get in to Atlas Park 1, just keep trying. Slots invariably open up -- you'll eventually get in.
Even if you show up late and miss the CC, there will be Trivia, Races and PvP Events following the main CC, so there's plenty of fun still to be had!
Quote:We should do try do launch a massive-multiple-instance-Rikti-Raid one of these days with members of each others' supergroups. I'd be up for that! hehe.
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Hi Sparky --
This seems to be a network issue on your end, most likely related to Norton's firewall blocking the ports that CoH needs to communicate.
I recommend going into Norton and making sure that both CoHupdater.exe and CityofHeroes.exe are given full pass-through permissions.
Contact Norton Tech Support for help if you can't see how to do that.
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Quote:Hi Lohenien --I have no intention of deleting the SG once I hit the number one spot
Oh, I didn't think you would -- it was more of a rhetorical question, actually.
I.e., the main thrust by Seebs was that this was solely being done to destroy INF.
My question was Socratic, to compare the concept vs the actuality.
See you on Guardian!
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The Solo and SG Team PvP Events will begin right after the Costume Contest.
So there is no fixed time for the PvP Events to begin, BUT, on the basis of the previous events we have held, it is likely to begin around 3 PM Pacific.
Even if you can't make it to Atlas for the Costume Contest, be sure to drop by to watch the tail end of it, and to get in on the great PvP action!
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