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Although I agree with the rest of your post, I wouldn't use popularity or Google results as proof, for obvious reasons.

Either you REALLY like drums, or you're REALLY bad with names.

The VG I'm in has:
* 6 inspiration bins that I stock regularly for people of all levels; one is entirely special inspirations (EoE, presents)
* 6 salvage bins which are usually full but get used frequently; one is entirely rare salvage
* 3 enhancement bins; I recently added over 100 level 25 IOs for lowbies
* Invention table
* A vault
* Teleporters to every zone

It's even an RP base, and we still get use out of it constantly. There's always at least one person hanging out there, and RP is frequent. Our coalition has like a million people in it (I get a full page every time I click a portal). And our base has cool stuff in it. Sometimes coalition people even drop in to check out our base design. Heck, I even have screens of our base designer's Christmas tree (with ornaments), presents, and stockings over the fireplace that they just added.

It's only useless if you don't use it for the dozens of things you can use bases for. Many of those functions are either crazy-convenient or even not possible anywhere else.

Technically you can get everywhere by walking, so there's no need to have Ouroboros, Wentworth, mission TP, or trains. Right?

Freedom is called Freedumb for a reason. ZING! Classic Freedom response is still valid even after all these years!

Your question isn't obvious, because this is a tacked-on afterthought of a "question." If this qualified, pretty much every thread on the forums would fall under this section. Question section is for things like "I have a base but I don't know what the point is. What all can you do with a base?" Not "You're all morons and nobody uses bases. Agree?"

Out of the one person I spoke to, we both agreed that you're actually a chimpanzee typing hamfistedly on a computer, who is translating what he hears a parrot repeat. The parrot heard someone say, one time, "Nobody I know uses a base," and then proceeded to repeat it ad nauseum.

Since 100% of the people I spoke with (1 out of 1) concluded this, it's probably true. Follow-up question: Thoughts?

Good advice. Have you considered taking this yourself? From your post history so far, you're often overly-aggressive, prone to fake fact-sputtering, and just barely over the illiteracy line. Including this post where you offer a broad insult of moron while using the wrong form of your/you're.

Out of the people I have spoken to, EVERYONE uses bases! Do my resources trump yours, or do we need to battle to the death first?

Had you read the forum description, your post wouldn't exist.

There, I'm all sarcasmed out. Carry on!

Maybe just the ones that say "I'm going to force you to PvP, and you can't run. And if you run you're a coward. If you can't handle that, don't come, wuss!"

But there ARE NC games that have alternate races.

Technically you can play as Kheldians in CoH and two races in Aion.

I think PvPvE is a pretty cool guy. eh makes all players unhappy and doesnt afraid of anything.

And I have friends who will help me do it.

You sure about this? We really aren't clear on how epics will work yet. And I know the devs are keen on making sure powers don't duplicate, so if you're banking on getting Weapon Mastery from Scrappers, there's an issue with Caltrops duplication.

Yeah. If I recall -- and this may have changed since the last time I played GW -- the account-wide storage was about 10x the amount of money a single toon can carry (which wasn't a big deal since you could only have like 5 characters or something), and about one page of items. So, like maybe 10 enhancements, 10 recipes, and 20 salvage or something. I'd hope the amount would be reasonable if we actually got it. And something akin to bases would probably be too much.

Really if they just let us access an account-wide inf vault with a 2b cap, that'd be fine. The other stuff would be gravy but most of what we deal around is cash anyway.

So's an AC. And I know they aren't required, and even mentioned that. It's still a jerk move to put those things in PvP zones, and even worse to tell people to just avoid those zones and that they can't have those things.

And I'd miss stat boost accolades... which require badges and plaques in PvP zones. Not even talking about Shivans and stuff here (which I love having for LRSFs and LGTFs, by the way). I'm talking about max health boosts that are tied to stuff that happens in PvP zones.

And yeah, I live in Texas. Going without an AC would be awful. But it's still just a convenience. You can live without an AC. You'd just be hot and sweaty all the time (it's hot about 13 months out of the year in Texas). So try telling a villain they should just deal with not having +5% HP and +10 end by not going to a PvP zone. Yeah, it's a convenience. But one that everyone should be able to get. People who are wanting to do high-end content would benefit a lot from that stuff, so "just don't visit PvP zones" isn't practical.

Frankly I don't think this should even be an issue. These badges and stuff shouldn't even be in PvP zones. Maybe keep the temps since they're powerful and supposed to be hard to get. But accolades shouldn't require it. Really there ought to be a PvP flag (which you can't toggle on/off while inside the zone). But that's nether here nor there.

I don't think he should expect people not to attack him. He's there to get badges or whatever. Someone else is there to PvP. But that PvPer also can't complain when I pop purples, ignore him, and laugh at his broadcast mocks. If he doesn't care what I'm up to and wants to force me to PvP, then I don't care what he's up to and will not submit to his will. I'm here for badges or shivans or whatever, and he can go jump a cliff.

I don't expect people to bow to my desires and be polite and not attack me just because I'm there for non-PvP reasons. But at the same time they should realize that by trying to force me to do what they want, I'm going to force them to do what I want, which is to say I'm going to go ahead and not PvP with them, and they can deal with it.

Ah. I'm on Virtue, and I don't have that sort of dough on me at the moment. Good luck in your endeavor!

This kind of weird analogy doesn't quite work because it's severely incomplete.

There are things in PvP zones that are not related to PvP, but people want to obtain (usually for non-PvP purposes). Things like badges, plaques, and temp powers. You can of course play the game without these things, but telling people they can't have a couple accolades and various powerful temps unless they're forced to do something they don't want to do is pretty crappy.

In your analogy it would be like if someone just got a car and couldn't have an air conditioner or power windows unless they go into House of Hotsauce. Yeah they can get away with it, but it's pretty jerkish to lure them into something they don't want to do just to get stuff they should be able to have.

Additionally, if you go into House of Hotsauce, you're still able to just not buy anything. Not so with a PvP zone. In a PvP zone, someone runs up to you and FORCES you to chug hotsauce. There's no waiter, or a menu, and nobody saying "It's all got hotsauce; is that cool?" No, you're forced to chug hotsauce as soon as you walk in the door. And then people go "Haha, if you don't want hotsauce, why'd you come in?"

So yeah, it'd be great if I didn't have to go into this physically abusive restaurant to get the stuff for my car, but I don't have a choice. So my options are either to go sit in my hot car, or be forced to chug hotsauce. I can see how I might feel like complaining about the situation.

The thing is, anything you could possibly do by using an account-wide storage system can already be done, just with more steps. That's why there's really no point in not having account-wide storage.

Are you looking to GAIN influence by GIVING infamy, or the other way around? And which server is this? Cross-server is possible but there's an inf loss due to market interactions.

I'd be willing to help you out depending on the server, direction, and amount.

It's not against the rules, but what are you going to do with 1 infamy?

Did you actually read past the part you quoted? Because by my full definition, arena is PvP content. Because the point and goal of it is to engage and fight with players. Fighting players in the arena is the only way you can win and succeed.

Doms are cool. I plan to bounce some blueside. I also want a red Blaster, blue Brute, and red Scrapper.

I also plan on jumping on DP (already have plans and even a pseudo-build). And I believe I'll be making a Demon/Pain unless they just fit super-great with some other secondary (except Thermal -- don't wanna buffbot) or just aren't very good.

I'm sure I'm not stressing it as much as you think I am. But speaking to NPCs and interacting with objects is still PvE content, weak as it may be. You are versus an environment, even if the only versus you face is having to travel somewhere. You're versus a time-wasting zone where you have to travel and possibly bump into obstacles (NPCs or players). In fact, blueside is full of this fun PvE content where the environment part consists of traveling across seventy zones.

You're always in an environment. You're always dealing with NPCs, traveling, badguys, and other things. Bloody Bay is an environment. A PvP environment. PvP is part of its environment, but not guaranteed nor required. Fighting Freaks is in a warehouse PvE. But so is running a boring patrol mission around Atlas Park that involves no combat at all.

Collecting Shivan Shards is PvE content because you are versus the environment of Bloody Bay. One of the obstacles in Bloody Bay is players. Now before you claim that that definition means there's no such thing as PvP content, collecting bounties in Siren's Call IS PvP content, because it's IMPOSSIBLE to do it without PvPing. It's still also PvE content, but that's pushed into the back seat because the point and goal of the exercise is to PvP. The point and goal of getting a Shivan Shard is not to PvP. It's merely an obstacle. A background effect inside the environment of Bloody Bay.

Basically all content is PvE content. Because you deal with NPCs, contacts, random badguys, planned badguys, time limits, and other things. You're always dealing with the environment. You're not always dealing with PvP. When you absolutely have to PvP, that's PvP content.

And to answer your other question, no, I don't think redoing something that offers a reward that's mostly used in PvE to require PvP is a good idea at all. But the argument isn't about whether it SHOULD be PvP content, it's about whether it IS PvP content. If it was changed the way you suggest, it WOULD be PvP content. But it would also be a bad idea.