Darth_Khasei
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Quote:I was referring to the "effectiveness" of KB in it's entirety. That means the damage and the KB mitigation. If something is on the ground and cannot shoot me until it gets up I also consider that part effective, scattered or not.Originally Posted by Mad Grim
I referred purely to KB as that was what you were referring to. You cannot use PS's knockback effectively, they must be right on top of a mob a explode. And they move. Not to say the move cannot be effective, but the knockback can't.
Solar Flare doesn't do enough damage to justify the scatter; Dawn Strike does. I don't see how you can onehit minions with it. At level 50 it has a base 67.12 damage, minions have something like 430 health. Even slotted with max damage and muscular alpha it comes nowhere close. Dawn Strike, on the other hand, has a base 216.88, and it is completely plausible to onehit minions with that. Also, Dawn Strike actually has a lower chance of knockback (75% vs 80%).
You sure you aren't confusing one with the other?
This is why I really feel this is just personal preference and I am clear who does not like KB, a fact of which does not and will not change it's actual effectiveness. It most certainly is not as effective for hitting outdoor spawns or farming no doubt.
So once again I don't consider only a portion of the equation as the end all be all of any power which I why I enjoy the semi-chaotic nature of Energy Blasters and the PB stylistically. -
Quote:I didn't say anything about the levels but if you must know its 54's that I fight. The slows down spawn melting PB's and Energy Blasters are hardly the top choice for outdoor farming, but that applies to other AT's/powersets and is nothing unique to the PB.Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
We don't all fight +1's and +0 no bosses with our characters, lol. Photon Seekers might kill a few minions and take less than a quarter from LT's but on 54x8 the scatter slows down spawn melting, the damage isn't worth how long it takes to mop up after the KB. It griefs how many targets you can hit with your other AOE's to the point that it's faster to not use Seekers or SF.
In terms of mop up I don't have any issues with that, but I suspect those that don't take and slot the human blasts would as many have stated YMMV. Switching to nova is also clunky which would add to the annoyance factor for those it applies too. I don't and never have had this personal griefing issue and I suspect that is a YMMV deal as well.
The personal style is much like an energy blaster and that is a particular style in the minority in the game for sure. -
Quote:I disagree that hitting targets with a mini nuke is ineffective. I don't know your slotting but mine kills most minions and does significant damage to those above them, which of course is what I consider effective.Originally Posted by Mad Grim
When it comes from a pet, it cannot be used effectively, period. They WILL use it in ways you don't want. Even Masterminds can't control this.
Solar Flare also can hardly be used for positioning. Its a PBAoE heavy knockback move. Unless you have a convenient corner ready every time you want to use it, scatter will occur.
I suspect you are talking solely about the directional aspect of things which I feel is shortsighted in this equation. -
Quote:That would require some additional balance adjustments but I see your point.Originally Posted by AIB
Whether you summon them ROA/Seeker Drone style, or as they are currently summoned, the main point is that when they explode you have 3 Polar Light type pets that will be there to continue to deal damage.
Their timer will not be as long as EEs but it will be long enough to allow them to do enough damage, when coupled with their initial explosion, to be competitive. -
Quote:KB in any power can absolutely be used effectively SF and PS are no exception. It is not a powerset problem it is a personal preference problem.Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
The KB in SF and PS are a powerset problem because it can't be used deliberately. Location KB where the point of impact is right there like that can't be used to reposition spawns deliberately, so the "good KB" argument doesn't apply.
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Quote:Been here since 2007 and this is the first I am hearing of this. I have never heard anything other than Khelds being a jack of all trades. That was from players mind you NEVER heard a dev even use that phrase referring to any of their AT's.Originally Posted by PsychicKitty
and i recall one of them said that since the scrapper wasnt a tank or blaster and was more of a jack of all trades that the plan was something about their inhearent ability might effect others on their team or be effected by them.
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The scene is a straight up X-Men ripoff.
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Quote:Out of spite as Jerry Seinfield once said.Originally Posted by Reppu
Why does this thread exist, again? Scrappers are fine.
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KB is not an AT or powerset problem it is a personal problem.
Some people use KB and proper KB mitigation on the sets that have it right now just fine and like it and others prefer some other powerset or AT that does not require KB mitigation. WAI.
Regarding OP suggestion it is not bad it is good, but I think the ROA type targeted ranged option is more appealing. -
The March 24th Keyes disagrees with you. Maybe a few years ago, but quite a few people play them these days. They do still remain an AT that is not for everyone.
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Quote:Oh yes too true.Originally Posted by Fluorescent
I know you didn't, but the general consensus or excuse I heard from players who essentially gave them the idea to start this whole market was that they "wanted to support them financially by buying" whatever it was they were selling at the time. To this day people still use that excuse.
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Quote:They actually said they were there because the pets and server load.Originally Posted by Crysys
I always suspected one reason the MM class was stuck into the premium tiers when Freedom was introduced was because they figured "Meh, why not put it there....nobody really playing it anyways."
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Quote:Who said "they are hurting for money and thus will take their sweet time making things because of it." I didn't.Originally Posted by Fluorescent
I don't really buy the argument that they are hurting for money and thus will take their sweet time making things because of it. If anything, they have proved that they are quite capable of putting things out quickly, it's just the incentive of profit has moved the timetable up.
And I'm not really debating on whether things like this should be charged on the Paragon Market... except for VIPs who already give them money on a monthly basis. -
Quote:Not really sure what you are saying but ok no worries.Originally Posted by New Dawn
Yeah, I could easily farm with Nova form, Flying Human form all KBs, Ground Human form all KBs and Dwarf form. With just one build and compare times. I would of been a bit patient for the macros to be fixed anyway but I'd look to do that this week. Results will work off of a percentage, one way 100% another way 20% slower etc, another way 30% slower.
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Quote:I think a lot of people missed this one or there would be a lot more belly aching.Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
Signature Summon x5 was also added to the Paragon Market yesterday for 250 PP.
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Quote:Might want to give this a go with the PB hover blasting using effective KD vs just KB blasting everything willy nilly.Originally Posted by New Dawn
Practise is as important as theory.
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Quote:fixtOriginally Posted by Zombie Man
I am the man and such an important person that I must be a hypocrite in my nothing addition to the sacred thread
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The old excuse de jour of not enough time and or resources was completely blown out of the water by Z a few weeks ago when he explained the release philosophy.
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Quote:shh!Originally Posted by onefrigidwitch
randomly converting with a single converter can have exceedingly good response, if you know how to target it. It is possible to make it very... Unrandom.
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If you did do the melee/support deal, the support would have to some serious mez and kb protection or it would just be a hot mess.
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IO license is $2 or 140-160 PP's, which is a deal.
Having said that I understand if you want to go SO only period. I leveled it on a mainly SO build and it was not perma PA at that time and I did fine. Certainly not the beast it is with IO's but that is a given as NO build is as good with SO's only vs an IO build. -
Quote:Yeah, no need for overload on a farm IMHO. There is plenty of mitigation in Claws/Fire mate. If things get too rough you can always shockwave a decent group of baddies around you.Originally Posted by Kathari
After playing a Claws/Electric to 50, and having to develop strategies to not die when Overload crashes, the SS/* Rage crash is hardly noticeable to me now.
The only problem I foresee with Claws/Fire is that you don't have the mitigation that Foot Stamp or Overload gives you. But at the same time, a Followup-Burn-Spin-Eviscerate perma-attack-chain sounds pretty enticing. Not to mention that Overload is pointless on a farm run.
Having said that, I have not found a need to do that unless I pulled too many groups as stuff dies fast to the perma attack chain(gotta love firey embrace). I use to use it a lot more in the small one room multiple ambush farms, but since I don't use ambush farms anymore in lieu of object farms, I don't need it as much. -
Quote:Illusion time troller is wonderful I have a 50 that is rocks and is fun to play.Originally Posted by T_Immortalus
Thanks. Any idea how much -recharge that takes to reach?
And to further derail the thread, now I'm also considering a Time controller after looking at the very nice Gravity changes and looking at Electric Control for the first time. I also wonder how well Illusion Control works with Time.(no IOs again so obviously nowhere near perma PA, so how is it without Phantom Army?)
I'm leaning towards Gravity for concept and because I love the graphics, but Illusion is very nice and cool and Electric seems possibly powerful.
I may have to just make both a corruptor and controller with Time Manipulation. -
AM/EM/HM purchasing of enhancement converters needs to go live now. No more delays.
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You must now be level 10 or greater to purchase Enhancement Converters from the Merit Reward Vendor.
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That's great and all but mind telling us exactly when you are going to flip the switch on AM/EM/HM purchases of enhancement converters? I mean it is clear you guys are quick to nerf things, but what about this promised stuff that has been working on BETA for two months now?