Darth_Khasei
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Quote:"Getting" the Kheldians is half the deal. They certainly are not an AT for everyone as much as people would like them to be because of how they were separated as "EPIC", but people misunderstood that not realizing "EPIC" as in story like the Iliad from Homer.Originally Posted by Bright
I have three Peacebringers (a human/nova bi-form, a human/dwarf bi-form and a human-only) and one Warshade (tri-form) in my crew.
Of the four, two of the PBs (the bi-forms) are 50+3 full Incarnates who are played regularly, mostly in iTrials. The human/nova, Anima Sola, is actually my prefered character for running Underground. PB number 3 is a solo-only character on Exalted, so he's a little behind the other two at 26, but he'll catch up eventually. They're very much *my* characters. Being Kheldian fusions in no way hampered my ability to make them, or my Warshade, my own.
My one 'Shade... She's not played like the PBs are, though. Alshain's in the mid-20's and has more or less been completely abandoned. I haven't played her in close to a year.
I'm very fond of my Peacebringers. I "get" the way they work, I do pretty well with them, I like the look of their powers and I love their sound-effects.
I never really got the hang of playing a Warshade. I didn't like the powers as much, or the look, and the lack of flight in human form annoyed the crap out of me. -
Quote:They asked for this to be farmed the second they made it the sole way to get the ixp needed. Even my non-trial friends are farming the GD thing. And yes they were informed about it and given suggestions on how to do it better in BETA. They ignored them and went went the vocal Hardcore end arc tough boss crowd and deserve to see the trial run by the majority of the people in game as a front loaded farm.Originally Posted by UberGuy
In an ideal world, they would have given us another trial and/or some other way to earn iXP for Hybrid. For whatever reason, they didn't. I'm neither supporting nor condemning that decision, because I don't know what went into it.
I can tell you that if was in charge of design, God help us all, and all the other things we have going on were handed down to me from on high (one iTrial, no new iSalvage, new iTrial the only source of Hybrid unlock) we wouldn't be able to farm it like that. The reward would be better distributed through the trial. And frankly, a lot of people who are farming it right now would probably be annoyed by that, because right now they have an easy path to unlock that I wouldn't have given them.
It is not about the difficulty it is about the fact that what people are trying to get (the ixp) is frontloaded in the IDF 250, there is nothing that can be done about that. There was nothing done about people on the LAM clearing ALL of the enemy outside for the xp and resetting although admittedly it was rare because the rest of the trial is balanced where they went completely overboard with the MAG and is why the resets are the way to go.
In terms of what you or the next guy would have done to limit players ixp, that is the "exact" wrong way to look at this deal and when the devs do it, it turns stinky fast. -
Sonstar and Sonshade get played pretty regularly on freedom. As a matter of fact Sonshade just lead about four MAG farm runs.
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Quote:You slay me.Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Citation needed.
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Quote:Yes and certain players as well, but they don't like to listen to things that don't fit the script so to speak.Originally Posted by CyberGlitch
In between LFG/Queue failures yesterday, I unlocked Hybrid on 3 of my Incarnates. All on farm teams.
I've not even SEEN Tyrant yet. Rather frustrating.
It seems everyone just farms the Mag and once they have unlocked Hybrid they go run BAF or SLAMs to get components.
Surely the devs could have seen this coming?
Rest assured on freedom great badge team leaders like Kotchie and others WILL lead full runs, but yes much faster than the SLAM people have found that farming this puppy is A LOT less painful and will be the norm. -
Quote:I don't see this at all. There are already trials that serve the EM per run quota, are more fun AND don't lock people out that don't have lore AND destiny unlocked. There is ZERO reason to "farm" this trial beyond the IXP and certainly not for the EM. IMHO of course lol.Originally Posted by ChaosAngelGeno
I was expecting this to be farmed anyway, but not for the reasons I thought. You are guaranteed an Emp. Merit every successful run AND you have better odds of getting Rare and Very Components compared to the other trials. Last night I was on a league that failed to defeat Tyrant only once. But it is faster to unlock by just farming the 250, leaving and repeat. I can still see complete runs being farmed at some point when we adjust to that Tyrant end fight.
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Quote:This is not a bad idea.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Adding a few costume parts as exlusive Magisterium reward table choices might help
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Quote:I respect that and if you see my first post here I said I had done it to completion several times. The point being made here is a different one than how difficult the trial is or is not, that really is NOT the issue.Originally Posted by UberGuy
If you destroy all six pillars of light, you get six level shifts for a duration I'm not clear on, but is good for a few cycles of my characters' attack chains, certainly. So intermittently, you are as high as 50+9. I made a point of saving my big debuffs and things like Judgement for those times.
The issue is only one trial to get the IXP for the Hybrid slot to be unlocked AND the mechanics within just has people bypassing ALL four of the AV's and Tyrant and resetting the trial right after killing 250 IDF for the IXP alone. The AV and Tyrant fights don't make the radar under this soon to be standard scenario. -
I have over 40 50's and have three done to date. At this rate by the end of June early August depending on my playtime I should have them all done.
I and others on my channels are just running Speed MAG's clearly the 250 IDF and resetting. If you look at the IXP needed to unlock the slot it is still only 5 runs of the 250 IDF. No need to waste additional time dealing with any of the 4 AV's or Tyrant since the additional IXP gained is not close to the value of the time it takes to kill them and resetting is faster and gives WAY better IXP. -
Quote:Actually they are not the same complaints since Tyrant is 54 +5 and the max most people are in the trial is 50 +3. The average pug is already facerolling it since they are only doing the first 250 IDF and resetting it.Originally Posted by Demobot
I'm seeing complaints that are pretty much identical to those made when BAF and Lambda came out, which tells me that within a month your average pug will be facerolling this.
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Quote:Only because they are not trying to understand the point being made. This is the same way they did during BETA and the devs basically said pound sand when these things were brought up during BETA.Originally Posted by Shubbie
your missing the point...
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Quote:I really like this idea.Originally Posted by Tenzhi
They should give us a dropdown so we can select between backgrounds.
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Quote:Making Tyrant 54 +5 with gimmicks up the wazu has made people just farm the 250 and reset. Some people tried to tell the devs this was not a good idea and the way people have decided not to play the trial is proof of what was told to the devs and the people looking for this to be a hardcore end game boss fight. It's unfun and people are responding in kind.Originally Posted by Zombie Man
No, you're both wrong.
There were no 'hard core' elite demanding it be harder. The feedback was that it was too easy. And it was *demonstrably* too easy when Tyrant was easier to defeat than Black Swan. Numbers don't lie. And the number of seconds to defeat Tyrant was less than the number of seconds to defeat Black Swan.
And Black Swan isn't difficult at all.
It was empirically too easy for the second most powerful being in Praetoria.
Dress that up and put whatever makeup on it you want. -
Quote:The people on my team in the game some were saying it was rooting or lagging them out as I said. No need to make things up there is enough wrong here without the need to do that. Looks like you are once again fishing for a fight with me but it is not going to work.Originally Posted by Zombie Man
The power used against you doesn't root you. Could you provide a quote of someone who said it did, cause it sounds like you're just making stuff up at this point.
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Quote:I think it is a good characterization, but I'll go with what Snow said he is always better at hammering home these kinds of things than me anyway.Originally Posted by Zombie Man
That characterization is not accurate.
"Yeah, the numbers are slightly off. There were a few more vocal hardcore players complaining repeatedly that the trial was too easy.
The vocal hardcore said that the next trial would be "easier". This is clearly bunk. These are the same people that left us with two nearly unplayed trials already (Underground and MoM are seldom played on some servers) and because of their arrogance Keyes had to be nerfed to the extreme to get players to actually do the trial on a regular basis." -
Quote:Yes, some did point this out in BETA. They were either attacked/shouted down by the vocal hardcore end boss camp or ignored by the devs who made the encounter harder when 3-4 "special" people begged them to do so. POUND SAND the rest of the majority of COX players, our "special" group of players has demanded a tougher encounter for ALL.Originally Posted by Shubbie
running the first 10 minutes of the trial then aborting is a fun sucking boring disaster...
really did no one even think this was going to be a problem.
I think the best thing to do is what the overall majority of the people did with the LAM by running SLAMS. The MAG is now being run as a SMAG(Speed MAG) and will continue to be run this way since there really is no reason to run the Tyrant encounter outside of the badge. -
Quote:I would have to agree with you on this point. MOM is/was a bust but at least we were not forced to run it like we are being with MAG. No worries there are plenty of Hybrid xp farms running.....when the LFG queue is not bugged that is....Originally Posted by Shubbie
Mom is a bust and annoying, but its very easily avoidable.
you have to do magi.... and the trail sucks you will to live and play and stay subscribed. -
Quote:I have 40 50's and 39 of them still need it. I think I will only do a few with hybrid for now and wait until they free up the methods to unlock the slot since the trial is a unmitigated bust. It was on BETA too but they only were listening to like 3-4 people that wanted the end boss fight from hell.Originally Posted by Duneman
lol
I usually am lucky enough to be in the company of some very good players on freedom ( Darth you were there :P ) and we couldn't get his health below 12% and we had all the lights covered. We tried with 24 and then 12 people with the same result, fail.
I would hate to try this trial on a pug, I already dislike it. The thing starts out fun then it goes way south to unfun once you get to Tyrant.
I have 12 50's that need to open Hybrid so im not a happy camper!
Well you 3-4 people good luck finding people that want to do anything other than farm the fugger after today. Nice job..... -
Quote:LOL the people dying and complaining to the point where on the first day people are farming the trial solely for xp and skipping the entire Tyrant encounter. Guess they were right to skip such a poorly put together encounter and not have to worry about being rooted or lagged to death anymore. YMMV.Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Who said they were rooting? Don't don't root. Guess you are wrong. lol.
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Ain't it grand?
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Quote:People have said here that ground rooting patches of death were "easy" to get away from... Guess they were wrong lol.Originally Posted by knightofrage
Did I say people were not killin the lights? Nope the connections were constantly severed by a dedicated team as soon as they came up. Its just as I said we failed because Tyrant kept getting healed by defeated players and his favor of the well.
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Quote:In their god like wisdom the devs saw fit to make the new Mag trial the sole place to earn Hybrid slot xp. Ain't it grand?Originally Posted by sgt_klaw
why cann't i solo the new incarnatie. isn't that what the new DA is for?
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Whatever issues any AT may have are not to be solved by the incarnate powers. The issues they may have need to stand on their own and be solved within the structure of the AT just like any other AT has in the game.
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I am just glad the rules are being applied to ALL and because of that fact things have settled down around here of late. If they just enforced the rules for ALL some time ago several of my good friends would not have left....
Just happy to see fairness and the rules being applied to ALL now.
