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They view it like a trip to AE.
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Quote:Well TBH, it is not like this discussion has not occurred before, even recently....and that thread the devs came in and made their position pretty clear is all.yeah I don't think the devs have given up on the AT either, I just think that they need to take stronger measures to catch the AT up to the rest of the set. Whether they'll make the AT like others is a question mark, but in its current state it's got bits of underpowered scrapper, tank and blaster in there, so that's what I went with, and removed or radically changed the largely-unsupported control and support elements. Honestly, I don't think the devs will use anything like that.
Alls I'm after is meaningful discussion, DK, and the ability to stretch my brain muscles in quantifying and adding ideas.
Seeing things like changing reform essence to a PBAOE heal gets my blood boiling as it almost seems like people just say things they think will be good not considering the people that have played the AT for years and would never consider that kind of change seriously because it contrast so vastly with how the power is currently used. That kind of thing belongs with suggestions for a "brand new AT" not my PB.
Arbiter Hawk to his credit made it clear no changes that fundamentally change the AT or overly piss off people that have played the AT under a style that fits what it is for years. The changes made in October were EXCELLENT. He said there was more coming down the pike, but they will need to fit the AT. That is all I have said in the past and now, changes that fit the current AT, not changes that make it some other current AT.
Along those lines I am more than sure if someone mentions something not mentioned in the other threads where the devs made specific direct comments, they will see them and give them some thought consideration. I just think it is "not" a good idea to just throw crap against the wall and see what sticks, which is what I consider AT changing suggestions at this point since the devs have made their position clear. -
Rebirth. Some use barrier, some ageless. It all depends on personal preference.
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Not that the ideas are bad because they work with other AT's, but that is my point, some things being suggested here are too much of the same ole change the PB to "insert your favorite AT here" and that horse has been beaten to death.
Having said that the last change PB thread actually had several "excellent" non AT changing suggestions the devs are looking into.
In my pm's to Arbiter Hawk regarding this issue I was pleasantly surprised to find him a strong advocate of maintaining the AT and the changes made last October were evidence of this desire. I feel confident that he will continue to make changes that fit in and don't try to make Khelds some other AT already in the game, which of course would be an unmitigated disaster. -
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Quote:This is kind of a modern day problem that has occurred in the past I am sure. There is a literal definition of the word EPIC which I listed and the devs that made the "story" that is directly tied to the AT, ALONG with them saying ALL ALONG that "EPIC MEANS STORY", it is not their fault "some" players want to use the "street" term themselves and hold the devs to that meaning.Feel better now? Glad you got that out of your system. Now, for the third time: My Opinion vs. Your Opinion. Stalemate.
I fully understood from these same issues years ago that the developers defined the archetype by the poetic term Epic. But what you're missing is the fact that most of the playerbase does not know that. When they see "EPIC" AT, most don't Immediately Think Illiad. Comparatively, the entire game could be coined as an Epic and more justly deserve it. Yes, the devs claimed it was meant to be that, but it was misleading from the get-go. People see Epic and expect something Awesome. Not an outdated storyline that is outshined by the level of interactive story-telling and talent that is running the game now.
That is an unreasonable position and is a serious problem in communication with people these days. It happens here in the forums all the time. Someone will say something with a specific meaning then the other will come along with the street meaning.
I view it as a form of intellectual dishonesty to some degree since it is "clear" what the word epic meant from the start. Players have and should continue to push for positive changes in the AT, but to try to redfine "EPIC" and hold the devs to that is asinine. -
The devs have commented on this many times over the past 8 years.
EPIC-noting or pertaining to a long poetic composition, usually centered upon a hero, in which a series of great achievements or events is narrated in elevated style: Homer's Iliad is an epic poem.
That is what the devs themselves have said is what is meant by "EPIC".
Having said that they have increased the power of Khelds over the years in response to players wanting Khelds to have "MORE POWER". People want Khelds to be more powerful but "more EPIC" did not make sense in the past, does not make sense now and will continue to not make sense in the future when in fact what is desired is "MORE POWER". -
I am not going to say some people here don't know what they are talking about, I will say they appear to have a fairly limited perspective regarding this issue.
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Dug baits and you take...SOS.
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Didn't know COX had some many undercover toe freaks.
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Dug is good for these kinds of threads every other day or so. Some better than others.
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Quote:It is one of the reasons I still use AE when I am looking for challenging and more interesting mobs to fight. I just make them. Now if the devs would just get off their bums and add the most recent powersets faster all will be well.There are players who actually like a challenge and like Praetoria and Night Ward.
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Quote:Gosh man this is me to a tee. I have come to the realization that as the world progresses it regresses as well. I am sorry but I said it when the movie Idiocracy came out, that while being overboard because it is a movie, there were in fact some things that seem to be leading down that road at a fair fast clip.Being almost 60 years old in a world dominated by a demographic that I would guess averages 20-30 is refreshing and helps keep me feeling youthful most of the time, but sometimes it also forces me to realize that the future of the world, and more particulary the USA, is in the hands of people who in many ways have no clue what the world was and should be like. I am sure every older person gets that feeling from time to time, and the rare old caveman over 50 undoubtly thought the mammoths he hunted tasted better that the scrawny runts the boys are bringing back now.
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Illusion trollers really don't play like a MM since you don't give commands. I have two Illusion troller my original toon Ill/kin and my AV/GM killer Ill/Rad. I have had much joy with both. I might add I have a Ill/Dark on BETA that is sick as well.
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This set might turn out to be fun, but it is not going to be a top performer. As long as concept trumps power then you will be happy.
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Best thread in COX forums ever deserves dev comments.
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Is Staff Mastery worth taking? YES.
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Aqua Flux, Hydro Flux, Toxic Tide.
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I just wish for once they would not have treated Khelds like red headed step children and do their nukes along with everyone else's. Oh well SOS.
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They should just go ahead and introduce create your own powers. That is the only way to make folks happy.
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WB rocks! Why try to devalue knockdown now?
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WB/Time Aqua Flux and WB/Rad Toxic Tide. Aqua made 50 yesterday, Toxic will be 50 later today.