Darth_Khasei

I find it highly amusing to see several groups of poor sapps trying to farm custom boss maps this evening. I literally watched a group go in and team wipe to the hosp within mins of entering.

Why would people be trying to farm overpowered custom critters that were buffed with more powers in the recent patch?

All I can say is we need the ability to choose powers we decide. Currently things are all over the place.

In addition, something needs to be done about the level of some critter powers. I just got chain held by Lt.s on my Brute which outside of GW has never happened PvE. Its a bit absurd ATM, IMHO.

One would wonder if the devs actually testing the mag of custom critter holds/immobs cause they are unrealistically overpowered with any more than two in a spawn, absurd.

Thats a strange question to pose. Of course the answer is no. The devs already thought about this for a longtime before even making AE. They recognized people would not play AE and they would have wasted almost a year of developing content that nobody uses, which of course would be mindnumbingly stupid on their part.

If people actually opened the tool and used it they would see nothing aside from outliers/exploits have been affected. WAI.

Well in Stories and lore they have some self appointed reviewers. As expected that has turned a tad bit venomous with some reviewers taking an interesting approach to their reviews.

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/postl...Board=villains

Ok Met cross post away.

OK if you say so mate.

You know this is an agruement that always makes me wonder just how stupid people think the devs are and if people actually understand the history of the gaming industry.

Games with editors that allows users to do what they want have historically lasted longer than games with only dev made content. The assumption that all the lowbies will leave after getting to 50 and getting bored overlooks something the devs are betting on.

They are betting on it with good casue IMHO. There is an entirely different game outside of MA. The devs are betting for the % of new people coming that once they have MA'ed to 50(if they so choose too not all will), they at "some" point" will alt and "choose" to run the normal PvE content.

This is them placing their faith in the content that was the "enitre" game for almost 5 solid years.

That to me is a good bet.

Cross posting is not pretty.

Cross posting is clearly against the rules and if mod8 feels a thread should be locked him surely will do so. Relax have a cuppa joe, nah just go take a walk or something mate.

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Farming missions are an option, and they abate the advancement problems that made the game unfun for me as a player. I can level up when I want to and do story missions when I want to. I have options, and options are always good.

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Yeah, there are a good portion of people that do exactly what you do, playing a wide variety of content in a number of different ways. The determining factor on what you do is "you".

I too am a game editor junkie. One thing I have seen in the twenty plus years of gaming(yes im a old bloke) is the change/midset of devs that open things up to the user when they include in game editing tools.

In some games the devs get this right from the start and its part of the design of the game. Hey player here are a set of things we designed and here is a tool for you to design stuff to your taste "whatever" they are, have a go.

Some devs/games evolove to the above point and once they do they take off and last much much "longer" in the long run then if they had been "restricted" to dev only content.

While I respect and understand what most devs go through to present the masterpieces they do like COX, they tend to be a bit more restricted in their thinking than the average player.

Allowing the "option" for players to determine these things individually is the number one sign that the devs actually "get it".

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Not at all. I just can't come up with a solution for you, Doc. Sorry about that. I'd like to get the farmers out of sight, because out of sight equals, well, you know. I can't make everyone happy, so I try to make most people happy.

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Listed as a feature for I15

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New Server-wide Architect Chat channel

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Be patient grasshopper.

I design for me and my mates. Anything beyond that can be a frustration filled journey.

Oh this is gonna turn south fast if you are not careful.

I am glad that this has FINALLY surfaced. This is the root source of much of the angst that has been displayed in all of these threads. People wanting to control others and keep them from having more than they have.

I remember this from childhood.

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I was just curious what the fastest is so far for getting from 1 to 50 using MA.

Thanks!

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That is a very interesting first post.

They have said that purples will not be part of the MA system just like mission no xp/inf end mission bonuses. They are entitled to change their minds, but I would not hold my breath.

Yeah and I really don't see any problem with custom critters that are more robust than PvE critters giving the "same" xp/inf for the increased risk they offer.

I enjoy the challenge and freshness they bring and despite being a powergamer I never have advocated that they give more reward for the increased risk they offer. Yet, some are adovcating they give less for this increase in risk which seems to lack sound rationale.

It seems reasonable to remove exploits and outliers, but the more rubust CC's are fine as is IMHO.

I agree 100% with the adjustment to rikti comm officers xp/inf/ticket drop rate. I don't think the removal is needed, certainly a revamped version similar to Snake Eggs should return.

In terms of the little known exploit regarding spawn sizes. I think its probably a good idea to remove it. The idea of one person getting the amount of lewt they can from using this exploit is abusive and this is from a devout powergamer.

As you stated the amount of return after removing these things is still a good amount and something nobody should complain about principally because its what the devs decided.

I have to repeat what I said before about the ranged attack/kite issue because its mentioned. For a kite farmer one ranged attack cycling is hardly a real threat but I understand and support the devs reasoning for including this feature.

Any problems with in-game broadcast lay with the individual, but thats a minor thing.

As with every issue the new will wear off and people will return to a normal routine with players doing a wide variety of the content offered just like every other issue I have seen since coming on board 2 1/2 years ago. There is zero difference with this issue concerning that point.

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radical steps like gutting the best features of the MA system aren't needed.

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Could not agree more. Cheers

I think you are just going out of your way to make a farming remark because of the other threads. It is a rude thing to do that here where this mate is just trying to get comments related to his series of story arcs. The threadjack is just not needed here.

Hows the air up there in the clouds? Guns shooting tisk tisk...

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"Five hundred channels and nothing on but farms." *click*

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That was uncalled for and off topic.

I like the general idea Joe. Some other authors are doing something similar. I say go for it, then again im a user story arc nut and just love playing other peoples stuff since their ideas are always different from mine and for the most part very entertaining. Go for it!

That's old style Freedom PI farming and that is not what is going on now. Now so many COX players are voluntarily joining 8 man fighting farms in AE. Nobody is sending people requests to pad in AE because there is no need too.

The bottom line is aside from exploits(vamp chambers) and outliers(rikti comm officers) there is nothing wrong with any AE missions. Adding throwing knifes or shurikens to critters is called placation. It certainly does nothing to stop regular or hover farming and was never intended to do so in the first place.

Exploits and outliers getting removed is good and is far as things are going to go.

Why do people keep bringing up the same rejected arguement from 2-3 years ago when the game has moved well past the point of no return?

The point of no return IMHO was patrol xp and giving us the ability to turn off xp. There's no real going back from there mates.