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Quote:I've gone on record as saying ice control is the weakest primary for doms many moons ago. People who complain about grav apparently think the one trick pony known as Ice Slick is teh ro0xx0r.Originally Posted by Benchpresser
Yeah.. I tend to see Elec/s here and there, not rare at all. The one Dom Primary I never see any more is Ice- and after playing it up to almost 20 I can see why!!!
That set is bipolar. An AoE sleep that causes damage??? An AoE knockdown that gets foiled by immobs??? An PBAoE aura that causes confusion AND fear, plus slows the targets so much they don't attack each other??? Shiver that does nothing but slow when everything else already has the targets at the slow cap??? PB AoE hold and aura when everything else is ranged control???
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Quote:If a perma mind dom needs actual defense outside of rotating hold, sleep, fear and confuse AoEs, then something isn't right.Originally Posted by B_Nix
Coming from Blasters/Scrapper/Warshade I'm curious on if I should build for defense by taking weave, maneuvers, hover, indomitable will, ect. Or if I should ignore those and take things like recall friend and telekinesis. Assuming permadom after level 27 from purple and pvp IOs would it be better to go for +hp bonuses to mesh with Drain Psyche in the case of mind/psi?
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Quote:Elec control was tied to GR purchase when it was released. No buy GR, no play electric.Originally Posted by Elendil
Whenever I get into a team with any of my chars, most doms are
- Plants (the most used)
- Fire
- Mind/Earth
- Ice, to a lesser extent
But I very rarely see an elec and this has me intrigued and makes me want to roll one (I'm used to play with my friend who rolls plant/psy and its amazing the amount of things he can do at 32).
What would be a good pairing with Elec/? Preferiable a good mix between AoE and ST.
Also, Elec/ plays in range or melee?
Do you see a lot of Elec/ doms?
With I21, it was moved to a premium set. No buy electric, no play electric.
That's what happens when things became pay-for services. You create 'haves' and 'have nots'.
I enjoy electric and have an elec/earth/primal who stomps the yard. I recently made an elec/ice who's lvl 30. It pairs best with melee oriented assault sets imo. -
Quote:If it's more oily, then it sounds more like shadows or ink, which would mean newer animations. I'm expecting that given this is supposed to be "special".Originally Posted by Benchpresser
I can't see us getting Dark Servant- my thought would be we get dark "Imps" ala Black Swan whhich I would be fine with.. Imps that deal Neg damage? Yes please!
They have mentioned that it will be "Tentacle Free" and more a 'corrupty-oily' look. So I'm guessing a LOT of debuffs.
Now i HOPE we get a Dark Assault to go with it!
I'm going to toss a wild speculation out along these lines: Dark Control = Inky. Dark Astoria revamp = Tsoo revamp. Discuss.
My criteria for being officially pleased with this announcement after having to wait this long are:
1. animations and fx are new
2. dark assault is also released
3. both are released before another AT gets another set (Staff melee for stalkers only I could accept, but we all know that's not going to happen or if MMs get a 4-legged pet summoning set). -
Apparently is coming around I22. Great. I'm all for new dom sets.
However, is it the "something special" you were told was the reason doms were not getting new sets or any proliferation with I21?
From the surface, darkness control sounds like it'll be some cobbled together set using powers already in-game. I'll also assume we'll be getting Dark Assault and that'll be a cobbled together version of dark blast, dark melee and dark manipulation. If that's the case, then color me unimpressed. -
Quote:No. Dominators were told they weren't getting anything proliferated and no new sets last time because "something special" was planned. The impression was made that whatever it was was very time-consuming and difficultOriginally Posted by Von Krieger
Translation: I want Zwillinger to sing Queen's "I Want it All" at Karaoke tonight.
And Darkness Control is going to be free for VIP's.
Is Darkness Control 'special' or time-consuming? Sounds like it's going to be the cobbled together set that people have been asking for for years. Maybe I'm wrong, but we'll see.
Aside from that, I want to know when it's being released. If doms are back-burnered so melee ATs get yet another set first (Staff) and then DC turns out to be nothing more than a cobbled set, I'll be emoting the proverbial Slap in the Face. And after that I'll email you all my stuff and /ragequit. -
What's the word on the new stuff for dominators that was mentioned months ago? Is Darkness Control it? Will it be free or premium? Tell them from me I'm not impressed. Darkness Control could have been added years ago. Along with Dark Assault. Also, if it's being added any time after Staff Melee they 'can haz my stuff'.
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Quote:No, he definitely fired his PGA. It just dissipated as expected after several seconds. I'll test it some more tonight and see if I can replicate what I did. Or maybe it's just random.Originally Posted by Kal
@DarkCurrent, Kay... Tried it. Still no go. I would guess you just got lucky and beat him before he fired the poison arrows.
Almost managed that myself, but he was on almost no health, hadn't fired, I hit him for the final damage, and BOOM, he just manages to fire it off. :/
I really don't like Manticore.
I guess I'll wait a few days and hope they fix it. I'm not really in the mood to go play one of my alts... -
Try the 'fix' I posted in the other thread about this bug.
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I believe I have found the cause and the 'fix' for this bug:
When I first ran it yesterday (11/11) on a lvl 42 character the PGA bug prevented me from completing the first mission. I then tried again today (11/12) with a lvl 50 character, but his PGA was still perma and again the mission wouldn't complete.
My friend I teamed with said it was odd because he had just run the thing on the 11th and Alexis followed him just fine. So that meant the patch from 11/10 didn't break it for him.
I considered the problem as one of 3 possibilities:
a) my account was bugged and my friend's wasn't
b) the bug is completely random
c) there was a problem with the way I accessed the mission
My gut told me choice c). Recall this new update added a feature for accessing the SSA missions by phone. You call up the SSA contacts and launch the missions.
This is what I'd done for both my attempts that were bugged. So I told my friend I was going to reset and "try something". I went ahead and physically got the mission from the contact this time and voila' the PGA arrow disappeared like it should have and I was able to do the mission. I asked my friend if he'd done the same thing with his working mission and his answer was yes. So 2 attempts with the call up feature didn't work. And 2 attempts with direct contact did work.
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Quote:I don't think there is an intentional deception here. I do believe the devs have something in the works for doms. I just think it's going to be another year before it gets released. AFTER Time was released... a buff set that was originally asked for as a control set. AFTER Beam Rife was released... yet another blast set when we already have tons of blast sets. AFTER Dark Manipulation was CREATED for blasters and dark assault was said to require too much development time for dominators. AFTER every other AT had something ported including several that were tweaked to better fit the new AT and meanwhile Illusion sits there with the excuse that some of the powers would need to be altered for doms. AFTER Street Justice was created for melees who already have a ton of melee sets. AFTER Titan Weapons is tested and released when melees just got SJ. AFTER Staff Melee is developed, tested and released when melees just got SJ and TW.Originally Posted by Obscure Blade
Nor am I. However, I am expecting many or all of the other ATs to be given even more new power sets while Doms are stuck waiting for one. Forget "months"; its already been over a year, a year in which everyone else was given multiple new sets. Even if Doms were given a new set tomorrow, they'd still be far behind. At this point I have serious doubts that there ever was anything new in particular planned for Doms, it seems more likely they just tossed out that line to placate people who were disappointed at Doms being left out.
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Quote:I like the idea of moving the kb set to the lower dmg blast. I could do that pretty easily.Originally Posted by Dr Harmony
Cool build.
If I may make a few suggestions:
1) I like the use of Kinetic Crash for the big recharge bonus. But wouldn't it be better off in Power Bolt, since it reduces the damage of the power its slotted in? Then again, maybe with the big two (TF +ET) you're not relying on Power Burst for damage like I do.
2) Volcanic Gasses could give you an extra +7.5% recharge if you slot it 4 Basilisks and the Lockdown proc. I cant quite remember what you'd be losing (+3% Damage?, some AoE defence?) but youre missing the big ranged defence bonus from Lockdown anyway, so I'd switch if it was me.
3) The Build Up proc in Decimation works kind of nicely as a replacement for the A/E/R piece in a blast you regularly use. You'll probably have enough end, recharge and accuracy anyway to skip it. I imagine it's even better if you have the big two (TF + ET) to fire off during the build up when it activates. I have my damage bonus on the combat attributes monitor and often notice it going off.
Basilisks were a bit pricey, and the Lockdowns are higher level. With the pseudopet hold (no domination or PB boost), I went with more powerful numbers than expensive less powerful set.
BU proc could work. Just going with better overall stats with that set was all. Dmg seems good enough as is without relying on the proc to boost it.
I could easily get more rch in there with more cash and some purps. The build was more an 'average man' permadom. It's fairly cheap and doesn't rely on any really crazy to get/buy sets. Most of this stuff could be had for reasonable prices as you level up to 50. -
This is the build I'm working on now:
Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.952
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Swamp Gas: Level 50 Mutation Dominator
Primary Power Set: Earth Control
Secondary Power Set: Energy Assault
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Primal Forces Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Fossilize- (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
- (3) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
- (9) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
- (17) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
- (3) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
- (7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
- (34) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (40) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
- (7) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
- (9) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
- (34) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (43) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (5) Recharge Reduction IO
- (5) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing)
- (17) Tempered Readiness - Endurance/Recharge/Slow
- (25) Tempered Readiness - Range/Slow
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
- (11) Decimation - Damage/Endurance
- (11) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
- (34) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
- (40) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (A) Stupefy - Accuracy/Recharge
- (13) Stupefy - Endurance/Stun
- (13) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance
- (15) Stupefy - Stun/Range
- (15) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
- (A) Springfoot - Endurance/Jumping
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage
- (19) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
- (19) Touch of Lady Grey - Recharge/Endurance
- (25) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage
- (A) Obliteration - Damage
- (21) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
- (21) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
- (31) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Obliteration - Damage
- (23) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
- (23) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
- (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (43) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Accuracy IO
- (A) Lockdown - Accuracy/Hold
- (27) Lockdown - Accuracy/Recharge
- (27) Lockdown - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
- (31) Lockdown - Recharge/Hold
- (37) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold
- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
- (29) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
- (29) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
- (31) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (48) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Accuracy IO
- (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
- (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
- (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
- (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
- (36) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
- (36) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
- (36) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (46) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Kinetic Crash - Damage/Knockback
- (39) Kinetic Crash - Accuracy/Knockback
- (39) Kinetic Crash - Recharge/Knockback
- (39) Kinetic Crash - Recharge/Endurance
- (40) Kinetic Crash - Damage/Endurance/Knockback
- (46) Kinetic Crash - Accuracy/Damage/Knockback
- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
- (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
- (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
- (43) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
- (45) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (45) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
- (45) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
- (46) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (A) Accuracy IO
- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (50) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Recharge
- (50) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (50) Impervium Armor - Resistance
Level 1: Brawl- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
Level 2: Swift- (A) Run Speed IO
- (A) Healing IO
- (A) Jumping IO
- (A) Endurance Modification IO
- (48) Endurance Modification IO
- (48) Endurance Modification IO
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Quote:I haven't found the endurance costs too bad, yet. But just got energy torrent, so not a full AoE chain yet. ET's end cost is high, but it's recharge is fairly long so you don't spam it anyway. Also, I'm building toward permadom with this guy, so domination fires often enough with the 50% rch he currently has that endurance gets filled regularly.Originally Posted by Dr Harmony
Yeah, Primal Forces complements this combo really well due to the low AoE in the actual sets. I feel this every time I exemplar.
One thing I found was that I had no endurance worries at all until I picked up Energy Torrent and Explosive Blast, at which point I was very glad to have Conserve Power as a precursor.
I havent tried Energy Transfer because I didn't have enough slots to dedicate to it. How did you find the endurance cost, DarkCurrent, and also how did you cope with the self-damage? Was that significant or did natural regeneration heal it back easily enough?
The self-damage is just part of the attraction. Considering I have no shield, it makes it even more fun. With the layers of control though, it's fairly safe. But I'm okay running from mob to mob in the orange for HP. Pop a green here and there seems to cover it.
For AoE in early levels, I've taken to crafting hand grenades, stun grenades and plasmatic tasers. The stun grenades stack even more with all the other stunning you have. Good stuff. -
Quote:This is a really fun combo. Started one a few months back and he's 41. Went with Primal Forces mastery. Picking up Energy Transfer at lvl 35 is to die for.Originally Posted by Vauluur
He's currently level 2, but I like to have builds planned out well in advance. The concept limits my epic power pool to Psionic, as I am basing him on the Legacy Chain and Carnival of Light. I was going to post a build here for critique, but as I worked in Mids I found out that I really don't know anything about slotting control sets. I've been a melee player for so long that I just don't know what to do with non melee characters. So instead I'm forced to simply say...help. Please? :P
Bone Smasher, Total Focus and ET all by lvl 35. That's pretty much 3 dead minions in a row right there.
I'll throw in a vote for whirling hands as well. It's pretty solid damage and better range these days. Combined with the above stunning hits and stalagmites, it gives you lots of extra control.
You already have QS, EQ and VG. Toss in Stoney, plus the kb in your blasts and you have lots of control, lots of debuff and lots of damage.
Snagging Energy Torrent and the energy targeted AoE (name escapes me) with 41 and 44 picks for major dps boost.
I will take the smash/lethal resist just to have it, but really who needs a shield with all that? -
Quote:Are you suggesting that every character will need to rerun a morality mission and confirm their hero/villain status to get the A Merit option even if they've already confirmed in the past?Originally Posted by pixelforge
I read that with update they made it so you need to have run tips and a MM before u can claim a vmerit... Toon in question HAS run tips and MM since he got a vmerit last week, but NOT since the update came out. Hopefully that is the problem - gonna run tips again. Let u know if it makes a difference.
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11.9 is very fine for me!
Been running it for the last couple days with zero problems.
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I dislike your lvl 41+ picks. Seem to be a ton of wasted potential just to get some more rchg. This is the prototypical gimping oneself for the sake of permadom.
You could get perma without diving into the concealment pool headfirst and refusing to come up for air.
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Anyone else think doms are a no-fit for the new 'playstyle' choice during character creation and the potential forum bloat reduction being considered by the dev crew.
Doms can be found under crowd control only as a playstyle. That doesn't fit half of what the AT does. It also can be ranged. It also can be melee.
And for the forum category, placing them in a Support AT forum is really demeaning imo. I don't know about you, but my doms provide very little support in regard to buffs. They control, then destroy. The end.
Maybe there's needs to be a Hybrid category or something. IDK. Just the current and potential future characterization aren't cutting it for me. -
On a side note, it's really sad that in order to get the game to work with an ATI card you have to use a driver 4 updates old.
I sure hope this gets fixed before Freedom goes global. Otherwise you're going to have a lot of new folks getting ticked that they can't play using their newer card and updated drivers (something that's preached as a 'must' for this type of game).
A lot of the newbs will have no clue to come to this forum to find out how to 'fix' the problem. -
Quote:Yeah there apparently weren't enough blast and buff sets already either.Originally Posted by Zombie Man
You mean like Beam Rifle Ranged and Time Manipulation Buff?
Control sets are bloating the character selection process, so it's best those were back-burnered.
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You'll see a gravity control revamp before any new control set, I'll wager.
I also will wager the new set will be available for purchase only. -
Where's Build Up?
Weave isn't as useful as any of the other DEF powers like stealth, maneuvers, or CJ.
Acrobatics can be replaced with a KB IO or putting a Kin Crash (?) set in Lift.
So you could swap weave with another def power and acro with BU.
Volt Sentinel isn't that great.
Where's your cone blast? It's the only real AoE you have until PPP/APP.
Combined with a dmg proc'd crushing field, you can get some decent AoE damage from range. Then, add in Ball Lightning from Mu. You'll be able to WH into a corner, CF, cone, Ball... charge and Thunder Strike! -
Hobbits? Four Hobbits!
The FP is doomed! -
Quote:"for the moment" is right. I'll give it another 30 minutes before another shutdown.Originally Posted by excimer
Looks like we're good to go -for the moment.