DarkCurrent

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Oh, and that caldera backpack is killer. Not sure who I can use it with, but I'll find someone!

It's duration is like other controls in PvP... 4 sec. Has it's occasional uses, but it's not a game changer by any stretch. I've DS'd targets to escape, or phased a buffbot so you can focus on the spiker, but that's about it. However, making it a location based toggle eliminates most of those uses because people can just jump out of it. It's not like it comes with -travel. It has immob, which everyone in PvP has resistance to with something like CJ.

/ignore Blood Red Arachnid

Now you are.

Just bought all three! Woot!

Let's keep the DL on the DL, ok? Don't want too much lag.

You bring up a good point. Perhaps they can leave it unchanged for PvP? Or maybe the immob is autohit/unresistable?

I would agree with all of these ideas. Make it a toggle patch that phases/immobs anything that enters it. If you or your allies could then enter the patch to be phased and do combat, that would be awesome. Also, you could use it as a safety zone by placing it at range and allies/yourself could jump into it to phase away from ranged attacks.

I think this needs to be tested with the aggro-free WH, though. As I said in an earlier post, it seems a lot of scatter is caused by mobs motion prior to the teleport hitting them. This movement gives them momentum. When you WH them, they still have that, plus your kb adds an extra kick in whatever direction you're facing upon power activation.

If mobs don't get aggrod they'll be more likely to be standing still when you hit, and thus have no momentum other than what WH gives them. It should make the power more controllable than it is now.

I could be way off, but from my uses of WH and other AoE stuns I know that mobs continue moving in the last direction they were headed when the stun takes effect.

A toggle phase certainly has more utility than a click version. However, I'm still not sold on it's lvl 12 position as a bread and butter control like all the other sets have. It's just not that kind of power. Oh, ****. Yes. Oh, yeah. No.

If it were swapped with WH, then those folks who wanted to play with it could experiment away without worrying about several levels of minimal control the way gravity is now. As is, the first realy AoE you get is GDF and that takes 5 slots to be good, so mid-20s. Then, you have to wait til late 20s for WH to get 5 slotted. Then mid 30s for singy. So you're talking more than half your career before you can mount the same level of AoE control that every other control set can manage by their late teens.

DS is not an every spawn power, solo or teamed. The only thing it will allow you to do is to effectively ghost a mission by phasing mobs in your way. And doing that would be some slow leveling as you skip all that defeat xp. So that positions it firmly as a once in a great while power. For a lvl 12 aoe control that's unacceptable.

I'd hate for the devs to go to all this trouble to fix gravity and miss the most glaring problem it has. Why bother messing with DS when nobody is going to take it at 12 anyway? As I recall, it's already handicapped with an accuracy penalty and a low mag (no bosses?).

In my experience, the reason the kb is unpredictable is due to the mobs' movement at the time of the teleport. Whatever direction they were moving in when you picked them up is the same direction they're heading when they come out. Combine that with the kb direction you're pointed at with your reticle position and you can get chaos. However, this directional stumbling is the same exact effect with flashfire and stalagmites. Mobs that were running toward you keep on going, but stumbling in a drunken stuppor. Difference is no added kb.

Now consider the new WH won't cause aggro. That means the mobs wont' be running toward you at least when the tp hits them. So stagnant mobs should remain still. Although you're positioning of the landing site relative to your own position will still matter.

The end result I can foresee is less scatter. Of course this will have to be tested.

Incorrect on the minimum level if OP is talking about the whole story. SSA 1 and 2 are designed for lower than 30

http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Who_Will_Die

And the quoted poster responds to almost every thread with one-liners to up their post count.

I personally received my pp on time each month, so no problems with the system per se. L

Fire/Earth with HF and Mud Pots + the confuse proc interface could be an interesting combo.

I consider the LotG and purples luxury items, so didn't factor them in. If he can't afford them, he can get perma without:

Take Primal Forces Mastery - 2 targeted AoEs with Posi Blast is another 12.5%

Resist shield set can give another 5%

Sleep set in spore burst for 6.25% (or another cheap purple for 10%)

I forget if fissure is PB AoE or targeted... so maybe an oblit set there or another Posi.

Could put decimation in the other blast, too.

And for giggles, there's the slow set for 3.25% in carrion creepers... or the immob set.

Combine all that and you're perma by 43 I'll wager. 45 at the latest. And it won't really cost that much. Basilisks would be most expensive followed by oblits. Could get those with A Merits easily enough while leveling up.

Basilisk Gaze for the holds.
Malaise's Illusions for cone confuse.
Crushing Impacts for the melee hammers.
Kin Crash in the range attack of your choice (both take kb sets iirc).
Expedient Reinforcement in your pet.

All 5 sets have +rch, if that's your thing. About 50% there off the top of my head. You'll need only 20% more and Hasten to have permadom.

Kin Crash also has kb protection at 4 slots to help while domination is off.