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Maneuvers was another option I was thinking, not for the added LoTG (already have 5), but for the added Defense. I could just use inspirations for healing if it was needed, but if I wanted to do some crazy challenges without insps, this build might just be better.
Then again, for general teaming the one with Maneuvers should be superior, not by much, though. -
Quote:Post WAI. Sadly it didn't provoke a response from the OPOriginally Posted by New Dawn
I find this post provocative.
All I wanted was him saying "Sorry guys, I was wrong", not vaguely "some of the random information I might have used could have been wrong which may possibly have caused misinterpreted results from my vaguely presented what-may-be data."
Don't worry about that. I don't pump my ego here, all I do is post what I think is deserved. If the OP doesn't give a monkey's poo about what I'm trying to tell him, why should I care what his thread was intended to be about?Quote:Don't do ego on the internet. It just wrong. I give in to it now and then but I know its wrong thats partly why I have my sig. -
Necro!
It seems that I19 will be published today so I need to decide on a build within the first week in order to stash the second freespec. Anyone got time to help or is everyone fiddling with their own builds?
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Quote:They make too much sense for him to understand.Originally Posted by Arcanaville
I'm not even sure the OP is reading my posts at all.
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Quote:So accuracy WAS nerfed! It used to be 75%!!!Originally Posted by Sir Talomose
I ran 300 Brawls against an even con, even level minion and my hit percentage was right around 74%.
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Quote:He realized he was wrong, isn't a man enough to admit that, but smart enough not to go on with his rant.Originally Posted by Bright Shadow
What happened to the OP?! He's not responding!!!
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Vote # 59
Scrappers + because they're awesome +
Tankers - because they want to be awesome -
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Blasters 15
Defenders 10
Scrappers 11
Tankers 21
Peace Bringers 0
War Shades 9
Brutes 9
Corruptors 10
Dominators 12
Masterminds 12
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First things that spring to mind
1) Rage wants 3x Rech and Hasten in order to avoid the -Def crash. The -20% or -25% Def hurts a lot, especially when you don't have +Def from IOs. Go for 95% enhanced Rech in Rage and 20-30% global Rech if you don't want to take Hasten.
2) Dull Pain desperately needs +Rech. You want the equivalent of 3x Rech SO in it on top of the 2-3x Heal. The recharge is very long as it is (6mins) and it isn't short even when enhanced (just over one and a half minutes at best in any sensible build), so your best bet is to try and get it as close to two minutes recharge as possible to benefit from the +maxHP as much as possible.
3) Foot Stomp wants +Rech and endurance reduction. This is IMO the best power in Super Strength so you want to spam it as much as possible so it needs +Rech to be up faster and -End to use less of your endurance.
4) KOBlow also wants +Rech, IIRC the base recharge is 25 seconds which is nowhere close to what I'd call fast. -
Quote:You sure it ain't Caturday?Originally Posted by Largo
Best thread of the weekend..hands down. And its only Saturday.
This thread
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I value my time much more than my play money, so it's a no for any new artificial price caps. I'd rather pay some extra and get my stuff within a relatively short time than either get into a "real black market clique" where I can get my stuff for a lot extra right now or then wait ages and ages.
Quote:And this.Originally Posted by Grouchybeast
Not mentioned so far, I don't think:
A move to off-market sales (which would be the result of price caps that were actually significantly lower than the value of the items) screws EU players particularly hard. The market is cross-server list, but glee-mail isn't. Therefore, the EU is cut off from the majority of off-market sales opportunities -- think of redside supply versus blueside before the market merge. -
I soft cap it because I can.
On a more serious note, it does provide quite a large increase in survivability as Werner noted. Against certain enemy groups it may be much more significant than 10%, and I don't really like being at a disadvantage against AoE heavy groups. -
This thread needs more maths.
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Quote:Do you think he is able to read and comprehend stuff when he's raging? I know from experience things don't get any better when people realize they're wrong on the internets.Originally Posted by JuliusSeizure
You really need to read what others have posted, and what you just posted will explain it all.
Base accuracy for most attacks is 1. Jab is like most attacks, so it has 1x75% base ToHit.
Base accuracy for KO BLow is 1.2, so it has 1.2x75% chance ToHit, or 90% as is listed in Mids.
Hand Clap has an inherent accuracy penalty, which is 0.8, and guess what 0.8x75% is? That's right, it's 60%.
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Quote:Wrong.Originally Posted by Bad_Dog
Great if it worked that way but it does not.
each power has an inherent accuracy, which you can modify with enhancements, bonuses, etc. I MAY HAVE 75% but my power has its own and its part of the formula.
SMIPLIFIED
BEFORE you get 1.0 * 75% = 75%.
NOW .75 * .75 = .56%
Before you got 75% * 1.0 which you thought was 100% * 1.0.
Now you get 75% * 1.0 which you realize is 75% * 1.0 and think it's broken.
Please learn stuff first and tell us how to fix it after that. -
Quote:The numbers you see in Mid's are your final chance to hit. Divide that number by 75% and you get what the "inherent accuracy modifier" of the power you're looking at is.Originally Posted by Bad_Dog
My base chance to hit doesn't change from power to power. Its always the same. Use mids and look it up, the accuracy is reduced.
MIDS
Jab - 75%
Hand Clap - 60%
Knockout Blow - 90%
This is not my chance to hit, its the inherent accuracy of the power
Jab: 75% / 75% = 1.0
Hand Clap: 60% / 75% = 0.8 (typical for AoE mez)
KOBlow: 90% / 75% = 1.2
See?
I really wish people would get more knowledgeable about stuff before they start whining about it. -
I'd summon Arcanaville to own Bad_Dog with her vast knowledge of the game mechanics, but thank $deity we already have her here.
(Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Arcanaville is a she) -
Quote:Please provide the relevant data to support this claim.Originally Posted by Bad_Dog
Look in Mids Knockout Blow has an accuracy of 90% not 120%. It USED to be 120%.
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Wrong again. Powers still have a base ACCURACY of 1.0. Player base TOHIT has been 75% for as long as I can remember.
Final hit chance is not the power's accuracy, it's base ToHit multiplied by the power's accuracy. -
They are already capped. At 2 billion.
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You're confusing accuracy and ToHit.
Player characters have a base ToHit of 75% which AccMod modifies. 75% * 1.0 = 75% as it has always been. The formula without debuffs or level differences taken into account is actually:
Hit_Chance = Base_ToHit * AccMod
For most powers this is Base_ToHit * (1 + Acc Enhancement), which again translates to 0.75 * (1 + Acc Enhancement).
No stealth nerfs, you just understand the system wrong. -
I'd pay Inf just to have NPCs looking like my SG members hang out in my base.
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I find my DB/Elec (which should be very much like a Claws/Elec) plenty survivable for anything I want to do with her. I haven't tried soloing AVs or anything like that yet, but that wasn't what I originally wanted. What I wanted was a Scrapper that plays a bit differently from my other ones, so I made one that uses endurance drain and Shadow Meld for survivability.
Here's the build if you want to tweak your Claws/Elec, the only thing I'd probably change as a Brute would be Shadow Meld to Darkest Night.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,803
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dual Blades
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Power Slice -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Charged Armor -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(7), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), RctvArm-ResDam(9)
Level 2: Ablating Strike -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), HO:Nucle(5), Achilles-ResDeb%(7)
Level 4: Lightning Field -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(11), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(11), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(13), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15)
Level 6: Conductive Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(27), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29), RctvArm-ResDam(29)
Level 8: Blinding Feint -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 10: Static Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(33), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), RctvArm-ResDam(34)
Level 12: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 14: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(15), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(17), RgnTis-Regen+(17), Heal-I(27)
Level 16: Grounded -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 18: Vengeful Slice -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-End%(23)
Level 22: Energize -- Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(37), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Dct'dW-Heal(39), Dct'dW-Rchg(39)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Ksmt-ToHit+(39), Winter-ResSlow(40)
Level 26: Sweeping Strike -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(34), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Oblit-%Dam(37)
Level 28: Lightning Reflexes -- Run-I(A)
Level 30: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(42), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42), RctvArm-ResDam(43)
Level 35: Power Sink -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(40), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(40), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(42), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(48), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(50)
Level 38: Typhoon's Edge -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(43), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(43), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Oblit-%Dam(46)
Level 41: Dark Blast -- Acc-I(A)
Level 44: Shadow Meld -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(45), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 47: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Seems like I'll have to fill it again. Strange
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I'd guess Energy, Earth or Ice for Power Boost.
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I don't mind giving away builds I already have saved in Mid's that meet the criteria the person posted. These criteria should preferably be stated in an elaborate and friendly manner. Basically this means that the person who wants a build without posting one themselves, has to have very clearly stated goals for it. If, however, there are no criteria posted other than "best build for x/y plz" I rarely even bother responding.
Rolling builds completely from scratch is one thing I'm just not willing to do. If you don't even bother thinking or telling me what you want to do with the build, why should I bother making the build for you? It's another thing if you don't have access to Mid's for whatever reason, but you should at least mention it so that people don't automatically assume you're lazy.