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well, im still having issues winning this SF... and gotten a bit bummed... ill join for a new try after the x2 XP weekend. at that point ill also have 1 more AT to bring to the show, so let me know which is most needed at the time.. (got robot/FF-MM(lvl 50), grav/fire-Dom(lvl 50), fire/fire-brute (will be lvl 46-50 depending on what weather we having =P))

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To be honest I have been loving it in there and I think my stalker maybe one of the most hated right now .

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well, that goes without saying, but that might not be due to PvP reasons lmao

well, before the raids got bugged, this server was very active regarding raids. we got some of the biggest bases in the game here and the top VG/SG are very interested in raids. Latest bugs has put this off tho, wich sux. i really hope they would put as much effort into fixing the raids, as they did with the XP-bug, so that we could return to enjoy one of the absolute highlights of this game.

We also have a few very PvP-oriented SG/VG with great skills and dedication. was going to mention a few groups, but dont want to offend any1 by leaving them out

well, as u said, its not an easy task.. so take this info.. corrupters with debuff should be highly promoted if u want success. and last time i did it it took 4.5 hours (and thats fast) so expect 5-6 atleast. i will foin, if u will have me, i may have to do minor AFKs at time, during the SF, but u wont have to fight AVs without me.. so its up to u to accept me or not. i fully understand if u dont but ill show up anyway at 10 am with my Dominator or MM depending on team config.

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Since you seem to be one of the most accomplished VGs out there, may I ask where do you get the rare salvage for the elite turrets? I still havent figured it out..

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actually, u dont need an SG team to farm that salvage. the easiest/fastest way to farm rad pistols (used for elite energy beam/elite chain cannon) is to choose 1 skilled person to run warburg missions (i run steal tech if that matters, tho i belive it dont). if u set it on villainous u should easy do 1 mish in less than 10 min, and as reward for mish u either get 'Weapon of Mu' (arcane version) or 'Unstable Rad pistol' in atleast 90% of the time. i usually lvl my cars in PvP-missions, so i get tons of them while lvling my many alts. if u dont have patience to farm (they do cost 10 pistol/turret and we got like 14 turrets = 140 pistols) i dont mind trading some off... i got well over 140 pieces of them.. (price: 5 pistols for 1 software or 1 pistol for rare salvage ie stable protonium or nanites)

its pretty expensive, so u be better off farming

note: i also have tons of weapon of Mu, Alien tech, spells of power, abberant tech, nano fluids.. well, all the PvP-mission salvages taht are mostly used for various of defenses.. im willing to trade them all for reasonable prices.

even tho im limited of time (regarding spending 5 hours in a row) im always up for this SF when im able to spend the time. and since i got 2 lvl 50s (robot/FF, grav/fire) i can even run it 2 days in a row.

If u dont want the headache i dont mind leading the SF. iv lead 2 failed and 1 win SF so far... let me know when ur up for this, and ill see if i can join in.

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Although Violators are the 'number one SG'...better than hero groups? My golly...

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Great work W0LF.. we all eppreciate the endorcment on this film.. with luck it will help us spread the word and get more ppl interested in our VG

and to clear any issues out: Violators are the 2nd richest SG/VG in Europe (all 4 servers couned for), tho we tend to claim the 1st place, since the #1 (Circle of Tarot: 35 mill) prolly used the early game exploit where u could cheat up prestige. during the last 6 months this SG havent made any prestige and im pretty sure its fairly inactive. therefore im usually adding that we are the #1 active SG/VG.. but there will always be some1 who dont agrea and its ok.. and yes.. prestige ranking dont show skill or anything... but it do give u a good idea how many active players the SG have, and active players tend to pick upp skill/experience along the way.. atm we got 7 lvl 50s and that is pretty impressive if u ask me...

again, nice work, wolf.. i know u had alot of patience trying to fit as many regular members in and organizing things up, and for this i applaude u

and thx for the nice comments regarding my clip. it was a nice fight of 3 mobs with +2 longbows (not grey there ) and for a few secs there i was a bit scared i get burned alive lol

AES costs 2 mill, if u wanted to know.. i got one built so its confirmed, but i wont place it, since the energy cost for it is silly (1.5k). do as previously said and get advanced data bases (1 mill pres/500 control/500 energy iirc) it should last pretty long.

Regarding defense, same there... avoid choke points till u really got lots of cash and cramped space. the 1st base we had (pre i7) that was very successfull used the biggest TP-rooms for defense... then just keep adding secure-versions of room till ur wallet bleeds.. downsize is the plot will get filled up fast, but choke points have 1 crucial flaw... it wont allow u to place maximum aux-units for ur defenses. the cramped space more or less only allow u to place the defense, no aux. (ie. 4 elite turrets+4*4 Aux takes up alot of space. i think i was able to place 3 or 4 Aux in total in a choke point.)

im a bit curious how u managed to secure ur energy-production.. turbines dont produce nearly enough if u going to add defenses to the base... ull soon find that out atm im trying to get the 3rd generator unlocked, but either its bugged or the previous info that its 50 hours in PvP-zones are wrong.. since i know we done more than 50 hours (me alone has managed with atleast 30 hours)

Sing's are (if slotted with 3 duration) just as good at holding as me, just not as reliable if there is more than 1 target, coz then it can start placing holds on random enemy. but at best, the Sing will work as an additional dominator and that will stack up to 18 Mag without hasten or domination.. with hasten and my AoE hold i can temp stack up to 24 Mag which is enough to hold AVs (normal AVs, doubt i could hold statesman) then add 1 min of domination into that every 4th(?) min (think its 6 min recharge on dom, with hasten that is reduced i think)

But it is still dangerous, coz the EB will break free at times and will be able to throw several attacks (and Hero-EBs like positron uses slow, and that will totally mess up the stacking cycle and it can very much kill u unless u packed alot of insps lol) and without good defense against EB-attacks u can die very fast if ur not paying attention.

actually, i cant say i have any real problems with Hero-EBs.. with domination i can easy perma hold them, and without i still keep holds up atleast 70% of the time.. the main issue i feel is when i run out on end, and my holds/attacks start to become less intense lol.. so i pack a nice set of bleus when fighting Hero-EBs

I should add that im gravity/fire, and has good holds and sing's help alot with the hold-spam. fire dmg is also good for killing them fast enough

And regarding Doms having disadvantages... i cant agrea.. i have played all ATs in both CoV/CoH to atleast lvl 40, and i can say since ED, i feel */fire doms to be one of the strongest powersets in the game, as my dom can rip up mobs alot faster than any of my brutes and with the patron shields making me almost as tough as a brute, all i realy lack is mez-resist.. which im really longing for to get through Items of Power..... whenever that may open up to the paying public

Edit: btw, to respond to the topic: im lvl 48 atm, and will be lvl 50 before the weekend.

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Where the mention of the machines?? We in the top VG's!

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i dont think that was any personal tbh.. Machines are a good VG and top-ranked.. i just think thoose where the top-VGs that 1st popped into his mind that also has big PvP-interest

even tho this really dont has with this thread to do, kin.. ill let u in on a secret........ here is some rescent stats from Violators pres-situation:

last 4 weeks only aprox 30 chars in the SG has earned more than 3.000 prestige

During this time we been not always top, but atleast top-5 earners every week (atleast amongst the top SGs.. a general weekly revenue is 900k atm)

the top-5 earners within the VG (not always the same chars, but usually is more or les the same) earnes in average 300k/week together. this means that aprox 25 ppl earns 600k = 24k each. 1 solo mission at lvl 32-50 gives about 700-1000 prestige (depends on what mish and setting) and takes aprox 10 min (this is very average stats). this means that each character do aprox 25-30 mish/week = aprox 4 mish/day = 40-60 min

at this point we have a bit of a problem with alot of ppl not in SG-mode, and that results in low prestige, but i have never enforced SG-mode, but had it as optional and ppl can do what they please, since i dont want to choose if they are to have alot of inf or not. I do however recomend the use of SG-mode and tries to explain the importance of it. I myself do not see the force-to-be-in-SG-mode as a good way to make an SG excell in pres, since that will lower morale in the SG.

The reason why stats in SGs are similar to achther is the dark number of ppl joining, making 100k pres and silently dissapears... we have had alot of thoose ppl, and will prolly have more.. and the fact that we dont have inactive alts in the SG, also cloaks the stats a bit. i only have 2 chars in the main SG, but between all my alts i made aprox 3-3.5 mill prestige alone.

and dont feel bad about high-lvls not making pres.. its very common (i think)... only a rare few will stay in SG-mode once they fear they run out of cash after lvl 32.. i constantly remind ppl and show them by own example that u dont have to leave SG-mode ever, and still will be able to slot with SOs for 75% of the slots (without inf-aid or exit SG-mode) i also has (tho i doubt it matters that much for real) an SG-competition where i every week announce the char that earns the most prestige for the last week, and reward him/her with 500k inf (dug from my own poor pockets) and even tho it wont help more than one char, its still a nice way of saying: 'thank you for ur contribution to this SG'

and dont use the whip.. ppl will feel used as u treat them like cattle... all u really need is to get 50 ppl (2/3 of a full SG) to do 3 missions every day in SG-mode (aprox 15-20 min) and u will make more than 1 mill pres/week.. small numbers on many, is better than huge amount on 1..

this is the philosofy and management that has taken Violators to be the richest (circle of tarot not included) SG/VG in Europe

a heard a rumour tha Circle of Tarot, Brotherhood of doom, all-star league are hero-SGs that used an exploit to gain tons of pres.. i heard this has happened to US-servers as well, where SGs has 85 mill and stuff. (dunno how it worked tho)

so for obvious reasons we dont cont them in to the rankings lol.. (in 7 months Circle of Tarot has earned 3 mill, and the others mentioned hasnt earned as much as 1k pres)

btw, i didnt see ur post as flaming (thats why i stated to be joking.. was only pulling ur leg a bit), and i hope ppl dont do it on mine either =) regarding couning mish completes and stuff.. its all very similar to counting pres, since i would believe that most SGs have about the same % of members/time that play in SG-mode in general.. ofcourse a good crew can motivate their squad better to stay in SG-mode at all costs, but that would on other hand cause less ppl wanting to join, so i assume it evens out (in general, not all cases)

another way of making ranks wouldnt really be fair.. since PvP isnt a 'must'-part of the gae, u cant force ppl into it by including it into the rank-system.. tho a seperate ranksystem would be cool, counting the total earned reputation in SG-mode.. to show he 2nd side of the coin so to speak...

atleast its something concrete to show, more than oppinions and rumours

This is a joke, not a flaming! If You do not find this post ammusing, dont bother reading it or respond to it!!

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(Top of the prestige rankings...not really a fair ranking system to measure who is the best VG, more like who has most spare farming time tbh Not a dig at the top guys on that list, just my opinion)


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didnt u know: excuses and lame critic against a working system is just a way to hide the fact that ur a looser j/k<--

na.. its not a good way of measuring strength or skill, but i have to say i doubt that many VGs actually farm prestige (atleast we dont) we are just a very active VG and make pres along the way as we lvl... (just that we got a few pathetic ppl that dont know when to turn off the comp... wait.. that would be me... damn..)

note: u can see the proper spelling of my global below..

cool footage, m8.. and as said.. way too long.. shouldnt be longerthan 2-3 min.. faster clips (MTV-style) and avoid doing too many solo-clips will cut down time.. too bad u had connection issues last raid. perhaps a nice Arena rumble(against a fairly passive team) would make great stage where u can capture alot of foxy highlights...

1 tip id use tho... try to get the footage closer and more up-face.. many shots are at very long range, and on my very big screen, i can hardly make out whats showing at a few times. and 1 more thing.. if u have a flying toon, use that instead.. a flying camera would move alot smoother and would get a few beter angles when it comes to cathing action upfront, without having a big brute blocking the line of sight

bah.. i wouldnt mind farming this SF several days/week as soon as we find an easy way to win it (thus making it a faster project), but afternoons are just a bad time for me.. perhaps 4-5 pm would be a good time next time? tho if i with any magical solution would manage to find some time, ill let u know...

yea.. its a damn shame.. i know BJB said this during raid (at 1st he lost ALL badges, but most got restored later) and i really hope devs can make an effort and check their data-bases and restore ur badges.

Same goes for the debt.. they did fix the turret-give-debt bug some patches ago, but it seems that in i7 we got a bug with the new PvP-debt system, that has sneaked into the raids where there are no NPCs.

I would like to smooth things up for BJB as well and give a compliment to the devs for the new HP/dmg-res system on equipments, it has really changed the balance in raids and will make IoP worth the bother of trying to defend, even for smaller/weaker SGs, thus making the total game-experience alot better.

small notice: do any1 know the dmg (unbuffed) dealt by scorpions suproise turret? i tried t find this out last night, but failed to see the dmg-count in combat.

Anyway. great fun last night DoVS and it was very fun, and im glad we all where happy and playfull, even tho the presence of debt and BJBs unfortunate badge-disposal.. not sure if our badger (doctor Dust) had any badges missing... but im sure he will let u know if he did. i hope it all sorts out for ya.

im impressed that there was only 1 post that has been based on the numbers

for ice blast.. go with sgt's stats.. but unless ur planning on teaming with Kinetics, why use the 2/2/2, as i would say 2/1/3 is better? even tho u can stack it 0.15 more, it wont matter, since it wont increase the Mag. faster recharge is better, and tbh i would prolly have either 3 acc, 3 recharges (i dont like to miss) or 2 acc, 1 end red, 3 recharges (since u need end) here is why, explained with facts:

1 hold = Mag 3
scrapper protection (in general) = Mag 7
squishie protection (in general) = Mag 2 (many have acro in PvP)

1 hold is enough to hold squishies, 2 holds isnt enough to hold melee-ATs, so why bother stacking ur hold for 2.2? dont bother stacking it at all. Duration in this case serves for one reason only.. target will be held for longer time, if it has no BFs.

For Controllers and Dominators (whos holds has, unlike corrs/blasters, longer duration than recharge) u should think about why and who u want to hold. As i mentioned in a previous thread, some sets wont be able to stack 3 holds, and some can, and if u dont plan on penetrating mez-protections, recharge is better, but if u wanna hold Melee as well, go for duration.. in the end it comes down to what tactic and vision u are going for.

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not at all, just referring to the fact that fire and ice only have 10 secs duration.. with SOs it looks like this:

20 sec duration / 8 sec recharge = 2.5 holds simultanously resulting in Mag 6 at most (not counting hasten, aux buffs, domination or aditional hold like AoE holds)

grav has 15 sec duration so with SOs:

30 sec duration / 8 sec recharge = 3.75 hold sim. resulting in Mag 9 at most (same conditions as before)

u wont hold a scrapper with mag 6, but u will with mag 9 in general... ofcourse combining hasten and AoE holds will change the stats, but according to my own play-style, i prefer good stats that is repetitional...(?) er.. im not english speaking a cycle that can be used repeatedly without temporary buffs.. meaning.. using ur single targetted hold, ie a gravity dom/troller can hold (if he hits and survive) a scrapper with 3 hits, and as previously mentioned, u cant perma in PvP (think ur immune to a new hold for 4 secs or something, but dont sue me if the number is incorrect) then u can easy re-stack the hold over and over again.. a fire troller cant.. he only has one chance then ie hasten runs out..

regarding usege of toggleknocks, they arent as usefull, since they only drop 1 toggle.. but blending that in while building dom is very good...

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I would agrea with this.. Dom's are very potent killers in PvP.. make sure u get one of the better troller-sets tho.. whith grav, mind or plant u can easily perma hold any non-SR scrapper/stalker (u need 3 hits, and against SRs it might get tricky) and once domination is lit, ur a killing machine in the same level as tanks/brutes/blasters just that u have a good toggle knock power and range

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No need to be sarcastic about it, I was only asking for ideas....

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He werent be sarcastic. He has made a thread in suggestions - memorial statues

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yea.. i was being honest and sincere.. check my post linked above

hehe.. nice idea.. or howabout an NCSoft acknowledge and get a statue in a city-zone??? cool idea.. ill throw a thread in at suggestions right now =)

well, u cant stop ppl from helping eachother over the boundry of laws (imo its heroes that are corrupt), but attacking them is ok in my book.. it is a PvP zone, and u venture there at own risk... there is no 'dont attack me, im ....' option in PvP-zones... even tho i do affiliate with heroes at times, or just act as a bystander, i dont get upset if some1 kills me.. its the way its supposed to be

Keep killing any1 u can/please/want in PvP zones, and ignore ppl oppinions.. if they arent participating in PvP, then hero/villain base is a good place to be

actually i dont think they are.. im guessing same strength as normal powers.. ie mez-resist mag 6.. atm the mez-resist is pricy even for big SGs, since no1 wants to part from rare components as software and experimental (tech-tree) for a measly buff, any1 with medic pool can add to team =P but i still a massive compliment to a base raiding team, trying to avoid stuns/holds/slows/other...

i do find the +fly/jump/run boosts interesting.. cant find any situation that actually requires this at the costs of salvage lol

3 lvls in 7 days? er.. ok.. a good (skilled+balanced) will easy kick 1 lvl in 3-5 hours (and yes, all in same lvl +/- 1) if u get a thermal and a kin corr on the same team, rest in team will become a killing machine with endless end/HP and boosted dmg/acc.. thats a very good start