CriticalKat

You must be referring to the Kat that purrrs and is an F'n catgirl, not me.

I said play, not pvp. All I do is team pvp, don't like duels and don't have any toons with dueling builds if I were even inclined to duel. Now if he would like to team pvp I am sure I could muster a team together on test for that. :-)

Elkie is actually a decent pvp'r as far as duels. I have no problem admitting he could easily beat me. He however is not good enough that he should be talking smack about anyone else's skills. No one is.

I don't need build advice and I can out play you on any toon in this game. Anyone who total focuses on a blaster in high end team pvp can't say jack to me about my skills.

Thank you to both of you, any helpful advertising we can get by various server personas would definitely help.

Wow old man, thought you were playing some other game and not still in Coh :-)

(Not insinuating anything about Elkies builds here)

Could you imagine purchasing a build before seeing it and discovering it has 5 slotted brawl, flurry and whirlwind in it for bonuses? Or maybe a stamina-less build because of all those awesome + recovery bonuses. I have seen some pretty retarded builds out there and couldn't imagine actually paying for them....

Agreed. Leave it to Marut to always be the best post on the entire thread.

Insulting was not my intention. Which is why I said the biggest factor I felt for the reason it failed was due to the lag / bind issues. I also felt at the time that the taunt leaders lack of either experience or organizational skills was a huge contributing factor. Your nervousness was another factor. When I made my post I didn't know what your nervousness stemmed from (which you just explained) but it was indeed a contributing factor.

You basically just reiterated my point though. There have been several raids where people were doing their own thing, aggro might have turned chaotic ect but the raids were still completed and successful. That reiterates the fact that under the right circumstances (leadership, lack of lag etc) it can and should succeed regardless of what a few people are doing or not doing on their own accord.

It was the raid leaders first raid of leading as the actual leader(I think, I could be wrong). I am not sure about the person leading the yellow taunt team that day because I don't remember who it was. I do however remember they for whatever reasons couldn't seem to get their teams organized on taunting the right mito's.

Her lagging wasn't in the normal sense of lag. She was clicking her instruction binds and some times they were spamming, not going out at all or were going out later than intended. Picture this. " Yellow taunters in", that went out later than intended and then the "ranged team in" went out immediately there after because of the lag. Thus yellow taunters didnt have aggro yet and ranged team went in. Face plant. Happened several times because of the type of lag she was experiencing.

NCsoft continuously says it has not been cracked. In fact as recently as yesterday afternoon. As far as what has been accomplished being off his radar, that was achieved the very first successful raid of the newer hami encounter.

There have been dozens of different ways to do tested, and several successful. I am quite sure there are hundreds of others things that have still yet to be tested and probably dozens more ways that will be successful.

I can remember on test before a raid was ever successful hour after hour was spent trying all kinds of seemingly retarded things to break the code. Stacking vengence, doing group tp mito strikes, sniping at range, heal blankets and my all time personal favorite mass caging spikes.


I don't need to know the whole story to know that raid could have succeeded with the exact same participants in zone doing exactly what they were doing if the leadership had more experience and the lag / connection problems cherry was encountering wasn't happening. Hell CHERRY could have made that raid succeed that night herself had those 2 situations been different.

The continuous desire to blame a few people for different raids failing (not talking specifically about cherry's, i'm talking about across the board) rather than taking responsibility as leaders that perhaps we could have done a better job is ridiculous. If its the few peoples fault doing their own thing then explain to me why so many are successful while those same or different people do their own thing during raids ran by different leadership?

Can you make me an MM build and I agree to pay you no attention for payment? :-)

You would be wrong. A spade is a spade so lets call it a spade. I for one would never verbally put down some ones attempt at running a hami raid because whether it succeeds or not the fact they tried speaks volumes. I was at that raid and I was on vent. I was not privy to what Steele may have said or not said to Cherry in private but that raid not working had next to nothing to do with people not following directions. It had to do with lack of experience, nervousness, the team leads not being communicated with and to properly, the leader of the yellow taunt team that day not being able to get their team organized and more than anything her connection and lag making her binds either spam or lag in going off. People were following directions but when her lag and connection issues were sending out those directions and when she actually wanted them to do something was 2 different stories.
Just like I stated way earlier in this thread, people insinuating that a few people not following directions or doing their own thing impacts the success of the current raid system that much are wrong. It may slow the process down a bit but that is about it. These raids are not hard and I don't care how many times people say "year and a half" of running raids, that is not going to change that fact.

By the way. Your response right there is exactly why the "kool kids" term is being used. Yourself and a few others that have participated in helping run raids lately come across as extremely aggressive, possessive and cocky in your posts.

There are people in this thread posting that have ran raids on and off for THREE, FOUR , FIVE AND SIX YEARS giving their thoughts or opinions. You don't want your contribution of a year and half to be labeled as "not wanted or needed" if you had advice or opinions, what gives you the right then to belittle people with WAY more actual leadership experience than you? No need in answering that being you just showed you feel your contributions are more significant, wanted and needed than people before you.

I don't see aggressiveness in this thread from actual raid leaders. No sarcasm or asshattery from Amygdala, Cherry, LLewthor etc. That is what makes them good leaders though. Perhaps others could learn some humility too and realize tons of people across 11 servers past and present contributed to paving the way for the success of the recent raids on Champion. I KNOW my personal raid success was due to people like Marut, Blaze etc paving the way and figuring out the original systems and coming up with strategies. All I did was tweek them to make them a little better based on my leadership style. If anyone with more experience than me tried to offer me constructive opinions or criticism you can best believe I am going to listen and definitely not label their knowledge as "not wanted or needed". Having that attitude keeps you in a box and you never get better or grow or improve at anything. That is the difference between an actual leader and a follower though.

20 - 12 = 8

Perhaps you should read again what I typed. But anyways.

Thank you Amy. Virtue raids are significantly different and I have attended a few. This strat is one I had not seen yet so ty for sharing.

You should consider a career change, unless of course you are already being paid to be a smart ***.

Pretty sure I was specific.

Which would be an 8 minute difference between feasible and impossible. Pretty sure I have a decent amount of hami experience both old raid system and new system and 8 minutes is a very significant difference when talking about the new raid system regardless of the tactic used. Also pretty sure you are aware of my experience and also have enough common sense to know 8 minutes is a big difference based on your own experience so not sure why you felt the need to spread your joyous personality in my direction. Continue being sarcastic though, it makes the "Community" such a beautiful place.