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Quote:The Venture Bros?Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
you know, i really should have, but just never got around to it. will one day, it should be all of my favorite stuff. but i was just being literal, im used to girl-hitler being, well, girl-hitler. -
You know Durraken had you read that you would have seen that the only thing I had the government do was place a tax on the product like the do other drugs and also gasoline. The government in my scenario no longer placed any legal ramifications in what a person does to themself with drugs.
You dismissed my scenario because you assumed that I was taking an opposition viewpoint and you assumed I was wrong without reading.
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Okay here's a scenario of what could happen if the drug laws were changed to make drug use legal.
Drug use is made legal:
The Cons:
The government then puts the same vice tax on them as it has on alcohol and tobacco. Gotta make back the money spent on the bailouts. Employers may still require random drug testing as a condition of employment(most will). Its their business after all. The government also puts random drug testing as a requirement to keep getting unemployment payments. The driving under the influence laws are expanded to include the now legal drugs with the same penalties. Anyone who is in prison on just a drug charge can go home. So unemployment is going to go up. Most of those people will have a hard time finding employment since they will not have any recent work experience. The gap between the rich and the poor will become larger since drug use will only be tolerated in minimum wage jobs.
The Pros:
Drug use is no longer a felony. Far less people will be in prison, less tax dollars spent there YAY! Smart entrepenuers will be quick to take advantage of a business that generates its own demand. Many new businesses will pop up. Those former prisoners mentioned up there will be competing for a place in this industry where their knowledge of those drugs will be useful. Random drug testing requirements in those businesses will vary but as they grow larger it will become more common. Corporations value efficiency and drugs impair efficiency. Farmers will be able to grow new crops if they want to.
The end result: A semi-permanent lower class made up of addicted drug users(We may have this now so not sure if this is a change). A new multibillion dollar industry to sell to those users. Billions in new tax revenue for local, state, and federal governments. Fewer tax dollars spent on prisons due to a significant drop in population.
So Durakken better than it is now? Or worse? Or do you have your own idea of what would happen?
On a funny note(from unfortunate personal experience-very dumb classmate that decided he would experiment with speed before school during my junior year) I predict a record number of light switches will be sold as the increase in the number of people who can use speed results in more than a few becoming fascinated with light switches while high and flicking them on and off as fast as they can, breaking them.
Off, on, off, on, off, on, off, on, off, on, off, on, off, on, off, on, off, on, off, on, off, on, off, on, off, on, off, on, WOULD YOU @#$%ING STOP THAT!!!
Edit: Sorry QuietAmerican I couldn't resist.
Edit2:Fixed a verb tense. Grr should've proofread before posting. -
Quote:I'm working this out as I'm typing it so if it sounds illogical please point out the inconsistencies. Its not that they get a free pass. Its that responding to their statements with anything other than ridicule gives it more validation than it deserves. I understand their viewpoint and where it come from. I just don't agree with the methods and the extremes they would go to.Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
That is something i have observed as well. These kinds of threads are always rife with people giving her nonsense because she is a bit optimistic, but we have a bunch of people (not just in this thread, these things come up a lot) proudly claiming they would commit mass murder because of some really horribly thought out logic and that tends to get a free pass. The internet is weird.
Most nations and societies have become too tolerant and accepting of crime and corruption. Every year that passes, every generation of people born into it will only increase that tolerance until it becomes institutionalized. Some people would argue that it already has. The posters claiming they would commit mass murder most likely already have this viewpoint.
Just for different but similar viewpoint here is mine:
I look around and see a world that is slowy rotting away from its core. I believe as a whole we are working towards institutionalized crime and corruption but we are not there yet. Plenty of good people exist in the world. They just aren't doing anything about it. One of the causes of this rot is the indifference or tolerance of good people. It hasn't reached critical mass yet where there is no turning us back.
Unlike Bill Z Bubba here on the forums I haven't given up on humanity and unlike Golden Girl I don't have an adamantium set of morals to draw on. I see what is happening and wish I had the knowledge, wealth, or power to influence my generation and those younger than me. I'm beggining to understand that I need to earn those things and work harder than I've ever worked before in order to earn them.
The G. I. generation, those who came of age in the great depression and fought in WWII, built my country into what it has become. Look around you in most american cities and you will see their legacy. They were hard working people who accomplished amazing things. Did they need any of the self help, 12 step, left over hippie ********? No they were doers not talkers and in the end its the doers that change the world. (Thank you Rocco from Boondock Saints 2) So I need to become a doer and then myself and those like me need to get together and reforge others from overweight, over-educated deskbound cubicle mice into the lions that will repair the foundation that the G. I. Generation built. Then maybe the corruption and crime will go from a ragged festering wound to something smaller like a cut or a scrape. Make no mistake its not a lack of morals that allows our current condition to exist(though if we continue to let it persist it will be), its a sense of "Its not my problem" and laziness. The mistake our fathers and forefathers made was giving us an easier life not a better life. It is to easy to take for granted something that has been given to you.
It is my belief that enough good still exists in the world but those of my generation, Generation Y, and those that have come and will come after us, need to get up and do the hard thing, to get involved and change the laws so that those who do wrong are no longer tolerated. If you commit a crime regardless of your mental state, wealth, or position (IE politician) you deserve equal punishment for it. I'm not saying the punishment needs to be more extreme. I'm saying no excuses. No more sympathy for the convicted.
So given the choice of watching the entropy of the human race or standing up, improving myself, and trying to help change things for the better, I have chosen to stand. I hope I'm not the only one.
/end my viewpoint
On the subject of Golden Girl's morals and why everyone seems to want to drag her off her moral mountain. Many of us have encountered the type of self-righteous, smug, morally straight people who are quick to pass judgement on others around them and by doing so assume an air of superiority. Golden Girl resembles that stereotype and so many of us project our contempt for those types of people onto her. I don't know her in real life and neither do most people here I'd guess. She may be the kind of person who volunteers at soup kitchens and instead of condemning people encourages them to better themselves. If so then in my opinion she is the kind of person we need more of in the world (not to many though, can't have us all go soft, it takes all kinds) and has based on that possibility earned some of my grudging respect. -
Quote:I'm going try to avoid this sounding like a case of Special Pleading. There is some morality in why I chose the coin flip. In my case I know that a fast decision increases my chances of success but I also know that given a choice between two different crimes occuring equally distant from me at the the same rate at the same time I will be stuck in indecision unless I use a coin flip or something similar. Which is more morally sound: Wasting time stuck in indecision or Using a coin flip and acting quickly? My choice is clear.Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
But it is random chance introduced by the user, not by the program, so to speak. Which is what I have the problem with. Flipping a coin takes a little bit of the personal responsibility away from the hero. He or she didn't decide anything. I would say it is more morally "good" to make a decision, even if that decision itself ends up being morally "wrong" then let random chance decide for you (not generate the event, but generate your reaction, so not random chance having you be near a mugging).
Good luck. GG has mastered forum pvp using a sweet and smug troll build. I'd post it but the mods deleted the last thread I posted a troll build in. I'd rather not irritate the mods by posting another one. However if you'd like a laugh I'll send it to you in a PM.Quote:Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
(Granted, this is not the debate I was going for with GG, which was no matter what you choose, your own personal morality, which is not universal or societal morality, will play a role and that can lead to you being painted as evil.)
Edit: By the way have you noticed that we have managed to do very rare thing: Have a civil debate on the internet. -
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healing touch? Yeah, i'm heading straight to grandma's house to fix that pagett's disease and then off to the nearest nicu (neo-natal intensive care) to heal the babies. Because at that age, i know dang well that they haven't done anything to deserve thier condition.
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Quote:No Thats exactly why I chose the coin flip. There was no morally good choice in the situtation. Thats why you proposed that exact situation. So with no morally good choice to make I took morality out of it since that choice was not fobidden to me with the addendum that I would do the best I could with what resources I had. My problem with your statement is the idea that a coin flip is letting "fate" do it. Its random chance just like it would be if the same situation were to occur with me being closer to one than the other where I could make the logical choice to go after the one closest to me.Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
The problem with the coin flip solution, to me, is that it robs the problem of any morality, good or bad. You aren't deciding anything, you are letting "fate" do it. You aren't thinking at all, right or wrong. Is Two-Face more moral than Batman's other villains because he let's a coin decide whether or not to rob a bank?
This is why if I had super powers I would chose to work for the police as an officer if they would have me. I would want the training and a better understanding of the legal system not to mention the pay. This way my work would be within the bounds of the law. There is also a support system for when the stress of the job begins to wear on you. Note that unlike GG my reasons are not entirely altruistic. The reputation I would build during my career would carry over once I became a private citizen again. Using that I could guarantee a better life for my friends and family.Quote:Originally Posted by BafflingBeerMan
Now, if there was a cadre of supers, it would be different. But one lone supers, by himself or herself, who could do more than the police, who would they answer to? And how would the reality of actual having to face those difficulties day in and day out color their experiences? Would they make the same decisions later in their career that they would in the beginning? I think most people would try to start off like Superman and be a Boy Scout, but end up more like Batman, while still good and basically moral, does some questionable things. -
Oh what the hell I'll help GG out.
Assuming you are a legally authorized hero, like you said you would want to be previously in the thread, you should have the ability to contact police dispatch. Grab a coin designate heads and tails, flip it, then let dispatch know your going after 1, and give them the location of the other while making your way to unlucky winner of the coin flip. Odds are there will be a police car near enough. As soon as you finish dealing with the first 1 then go assist with the other.
The point of the situation described is to make it impossible to do both at the same time. When such a situation exists you do your best and hope for the best. Thats all any reasonable person can ask of you.
By the way a slippery slope arguement assumes that the slippery slope exists. You just want GG to fall of her Moral Mountain. She is not going to do that. She'll simply refuse to acknowledge your arguement. Also your arguement assumes a perfect situation in an imperfect world. In no real situation are you going to be exactly equadistant to two seperate crimes, occuring at the same rate at the same time. The variables involved are just too unpredictable. I'm not saying that difficult decisions don't exist. They do.
Also on the arguement of Morality versus Selfishness being the natural thing your both going to the extremes. It is natural to be a morally good person because your success in life depends on others opinion of you. Therefore being a morally good person is inherently partially selfish. Its why you don't see the guy who stole from his previous employer getting hired for most positions. I said partially because a morally good person might throw themselves into danger to save a child from an oncoming vehicle or some other good action that is done with little or no time to think about the consequences.
Oh and because its funny.
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I'm really not good at advice but I can help you level him up to stamina and SOs if your on Freedom. Just send me a tell my global is the same as my forum name except with spaces instead of underscores.
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Got a new one I just worked out recently. Remember McCormick's Salt'n Spice seasoning that was discontinued a few years back. Well they have a recipe to make a similar blend but something wasn't tasting right. I did some experimenting, adjusted it slightly, and think I've got it as close as I'm going to get it.
You need a pepper mill, some way to crush spices (mortar and pestle or something you can macguyver into functioning that way), a funnel, and some empty spice shakers (I recycle old ones that I've used all the spices out of).
1/4 cup 1 tsp kosher salt - the finer the better
1 1/2 Tbs Lawry's seasoned pepper blend
1 Tbs garlic salt
1 Tbs onion powder
1 1/4 tsp Celery seeds, crushed - this is what the macguyvered or regular mortar and pestle is for
Mix all together until they are well blended and then pour into the pepper mill. Set the pepper mill to a fine-very fine setting and use the pepper mill to grind the mixture into a funnel that is feeding into one of the empty spice shakers.
I usually use it on eggs, popcorn, and mixed into my hamburgers. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. -
Well I'm not him but I can guess. He's probably running softcapped smashing/lethal defense by using a combination of either frozen armor or scorpion shield as well as weave, combat jumping, steadfast 3% defense IO, and 5 kinetic combat sets. If he's going for a great deal of survivability he's probably also playing a mental manip with drain psyche and definitely using the cold epic for frozen armor and hoarfrost for the emergency heal. Probably archery for his primary set and battle maiden or an all smashing lethal AE arc for his farm.
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Thought I'd toss out something a bit different for a recipe this time. This is something that my friends have all dubbed "Revenge Sauce".
1tbs of tabasco sauce
1tbs of worcestershire sauce
3/4tsp of Morton season all seasoned salt
1/2tsp of garlic salt
Mix it all together, it will smell foul but tastes very good if a little spicy.
Here is the revenge part. If more than half of the amount made by the recipe above is consumed in one sitting by a single person that person has around 30 minutes to an hour before they empty their bowels. I first made it for my wife and me to flavor a dinner one night. We discovered the revenge part personally. We tried it again on another dish just to see if it was the sauce that did it. Then invited a few friends over that had pulled one hell of an april fools joke on me and made a very large batch of the stuff so that they could "enjoy" it as well. I put a little on my food and curiosity got the better of them so they tried it, liked it, and put a bunch on their stuff. None of them thought to ask why I used so little of it on mine. Sure enough about 30 minutes later all of them were looking very uncomfortable and my 1 bathroom wasn't going to take care of all of them. I've never seen any of them move so fast to get out the door and home. Later on after I explained it they dubbed it "Revenge Sauce". It has been used in many practical jokes since.
Just a small note: It doesn't work on everyone. I'd say maybe 3 out of 10 won't be bothered at all. -
Durakken makes a good point. This would be excellent for backpackers/survivalists with a little adjustment. All they gotta do is make it so that it can bond with other types of fabric. Then you can use it for emergency repairs on damaged clothing or to add another layer when its too cold out. Also could be used to make socks in an emergency. Nothing worse in a survival situation than damaged, wet, or holey socks.
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Um... I don't think this would work on someone like me. I've basically got a sweater on at all times. Spray on stuff bonding together skin tight would probably bond my psuedo fur into it. I just see that ending poorly.
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I dont like the small, claustrophobia inducing paths in the caves. I like the look and feel but its to easy to get stuck in there and its very hard to get an unobstructed view of the fight. If the caves were more open, with larger paths and more room to manuever, but with the same textures they would be much improved in my mind.
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Quote:Agreed. There is a difference. A lot farmers are driven, dedicated individuals who are using an efficient (in their minds) means to reach a goal. Thats not a bad thing in my mind.Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer
Farming =/= exploiting, just saying.
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CUTE OVERLOAD!!!
The puppy really got me though. I live in an apartment so out of respect for the landowner I don't keep a dog but Corgis are on my list of dog breeds I want to own along with Samoyeds and Great Pyrenees. -
Please proliferate Traps to Controllers!!!
Just a selfish request. I really just want to play a Gravity/Traps controller so I can tp-bomb groups.
Again just a selfish request. Please!!! -
Quote:And 2 hours lost this time to being TVTroped. ThanksOriginally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Highly visible ones.
I should know better than to click any tvtrope link... -
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Okay guess I can take a shot at it.
Comedy: Monty Python and the Holy Grail - one of my favorite comedy movies
Animation: Hoodwinked - a funny retelling of the Little Red Riding Hood tale, also if I remember right you have that disturbing grandma character in game well this movie has an extreme sports grandma
More Serious: What Dreams May Come - some might find it depressing, I find the art and the story inspiring and amazing
Mess with your class: Rainbow Brite and the Star Stealer - Will make them uncomfortable. Imagine having to write a review about glitterbots and still try to take yourself seriously. -
ClawsandEffect is correct.
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In before a possible lock.
Like the idea but I don't think it will be implemented. If you took out the big arm/guantlet idea and turned it into more of a fighting superiority type of armor set (IE you block their attack with one hand and casually backhand them causing them to fly back 10ft and land in a broken heap) you might get a more positive response. Basically someone with the armor set would be the kind of guy you throw a fireball at and he bats it aside with his bare hands, you swing a sword at him and he bats the blade aside without pausing in his stride, you throw a punch and he catches your hand and throws you off balance. No matter what you try to pull out your *** he always counters it like he knows what your gonna do before you even do it. As for explaining Hide there are martial skills which appear to the untrained eye as if the user just vanished. Its basically a more offense themed ninjutsu set but without the silly ninja stuff. (anything else>ninjas) No idea what you would call it though. -
Sorry dude but the same can be said for slotting for 5 copies of the 7.5% recharge set bonus. Or even easier the 6.25% recharge set bonus which is very common. You get 5 of those they add up to 31.25%. Just 2.05% less than a even level recharge SO. You can stack those set bonuses up to SO level. Hell my blaster actually has about 120% recharge (+-5% not sure its been a month {GR has shinies}) without hasten turned on. Even adding 1 SO's worth of effectiveness makes a big difference in a character's powers especially since it exceeds ED.
One of the problems is its impossible as far as I can tell to attain 5 copies of even 1 type of mez duration set bonus. I'm not sure if your just trying to make me work to improve my idea and my justification for it or if your just looking for an arguement. If your trying to help thanks.