CrazyJerseyan

Originally Posted by Tongz

Hello all, please forgive me for the broadness of this topic. I am new here, and am *still in the process of reading guides/stickies* and etc. (120 pages of Philosophy homework, or CoX? Easy choice.

I'll get right to the point. I've had kheldians unlocked since whatever issue they came out in, but never payed them any attention due to all the negative reviews I heard. Their powers cost too much endurance, did too little damage, and slotting was very restrictive, often forcing a "2-form" build. There is also a long list of "bad things" stickied up there...

I'm really interested in trying something unique and challenging. (I have a 50 ice/ice blaster and a 50 claws/ninjitsu stalker. While I like 1-shotting minions, I think it's time I branched out.) I'm especially enamored with the Warshade. My questions are simple:

1. Do kheldians perform their function(s)?
2. Are kheldians unique and interesting in their role, or are they simply a scrapper and a blaster smushed together?
3. What's the playstyle like? (Are you sitting in squid form on teams facerolling 4 buttons, or are you changing forms and using all your abilities?)

Thanks very much in advance for your support. *Back to reading*

Originally Posted by eryq2

On a side note, i'll take the DP name winner with my Goldy Glocks. tyvm.

Originally Posted by Postagulous

Hell, I can't tell who's being sarcastic anymore.

Who gives a flying f-thing? This is like arguing over whether you like mustard or not.

Originally Posted by firespray

you shut your mouth about mustard!

Mustard is the most delicious condiment known to man and anyone who says otherwise is a $%*#ing noob!!!!!!1!111!!!!!!1!111!one!

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

Welcome to the game and the forums, Geremyd

Originally Posted by macskull

Forts didn't get SR nerfed, people who complained that they couldn't hit anything because they didn't build their characters right got SR nerfed. Even at 10% elusivity, defense is decent if you get enough of it.

Originally Posted by ConFlict

All I do is drone people.

Originally Posted by JKwervo

I would assume, though, that the OP would like to be more viable for higher end PvP, rather than just stick in Siren's. >.>

Originally Posted by ConFlict

Let me cover this for everyone. The only real viable traps toon is a mm. You can make other ones work in zones. But you can make anything work in zones. Arena a traps fender or corr would be a farm target, pure and simple.



And just so we are clear rahji, I do think outside the box. I do try suboptomal builds and set ups to see what works. I am not stuck on 8v8 jump teams. I am the mutha fn king of zone pvp in this game. I don't have the time the effort or energy into arena. Plus I am antisocial as hell and refuse to use vent. What I lack in skill I compensate for with knowledge. I am also smart enough to know you really can not reinvent the wheel, but you can definitely change the tread.

Originally Posted by Mercury_Down

Great, although I think a traps toon will be at quite a disadvantage in an arena setting. If you are up for it though I'll send you a tell tonight

Originally Posted by Punkture

Well I watched Vennetrix quite a bit of the time last night and his claims are not so far fetched. He was a great add to the team he was running and I watched him near solo a tank and scrapper using a pool and web nades trap setup. It was pretty sweet. He got other kills of note but these two I watched near the hero base were impressive. The tank is one of the more well built ones we see in the zone and he was defeated in less than 10 seconds with very little outside help. GG

I got sent to the hospital once on my main Corrupter over the nearly two hours I observed and played near him while he made, lets say a few more trips than I. From my vantage point I would have to say the SS / SJ combo was the superior escape travel setup in most of the situations I witnessed. He was suppressed a bit and spiked is what it looked like to me. As to be expected. But I am playing a Pain secondary and am a little more resilient to be fair.

However he did have some situations where he was able to hover out of range for many of the SS only users and got some lols out of me for his taunts and such. He did make good use of his Hover / TP setup quite a few times. He was able to make quite a few good escapes using invisibility or phase as he noted in his posts. I was able to make more escapes is all. Although they may have been gunning for him after some of his comments on here. Just to try and prove him wrong. I dont think they did.

I also observed how he attempted to pursue a few runners who either resisted the TP or he got a bad roll on it. I was not impressed much by the results of his pursuits. He did get ahead of the runner a few times but most escaped over the sustained pursuit. Pursuit with TP is a mixed bag. I will stick with my SS / SJ setup I think.

All in all, a very viable build but I still stand behind my earlier comments. I would not suggest this to a starting PVP player. I would suggest learning the ropes on a ranged toon but probably not that secondary to start with. That is not to say that I would never play a traps for PVP. I would think it will take much more practice, trial and error to refine the skill. A new player should start with something easier is my opinion.

Good work Vennetrix. Some of the later ire you are getting is because you really did well on that build last night.

Originally Posted by NekoNeko

Oh, you mean Issue 17: ANIMATED TAILS! (separate from belts!)

lol...

Originally Posted by Staccato

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the henchie exploit didn't need to be fixed. It did.

I'm just mildly annoyed with NCsoft on the whole right now. They keep painting a shiny new coating over old content and expecting us to be distracted by the glisten.

For me at least, Issue 17 and Going Rogue will be the breaking point. If I don't feel a freshness in the game with them, I think I'm done. With CoH and possibly with NCsoft. They haven't been impressing me of late and I'm finding it harder to justify handing them money every month.

Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood

I don't say it's a non-issue but I don't think it's the main problem, in fact I think it helped the supply of most items. Tickets can be used for any items that can be gotten through normal drops except for purples. The difference is that the player gets to focus the supply on what they actually want rather than taking a bit of everything. Based ont he supply I would say that most people are either spending their tickets on rare salvage or making random recipe rolls (probably mostly bronze but maybe some silver and gold). The net result is that we do get a decrease in the supply of common and uncommon salvage but rare salvage and non-purple recipes are actually supplied in larger quantities but AE play than non-AE play.

This is really noticeable in the tier 3 salvage market. Prior to the AE most common and uncommon salvage here was very cheap while rare salvage was all over the map from very low (such diamonds and rikti alloy) to very high (hamidon goo was very expensive IIRC). During the boss farm AE craze the price of common and uncommon salvage skyrocketed but the price of rare salvage stabilized at about 1 million each regardless of type. With I16 the changes meant that fewer people are playing AE stuff but it's still pretty popular. The price of common and uncommon salvage has dropped but not quite to it's pre-AE levels (especially for some of the magical uncommons). Rare salvage has risen in price but the stock levels and the difference in price is much less extreme. Previously it varied between something like 100K and 10million depending on the item but now it pretty much all goes for between 1million and 2.5million as a buy it now price.

So yes AE has caused some inflation, particularly in Purples, but it has also caused a decrease in the prices of other items and so overall I don't think it's the primary cause of the current state of the economy.

Originally Posted by Mr E-Man

Sorry everyone - I was tied up this past weekend, but I think I have everyone signed-up now!

Originally Posted by Not_Epsilon

If you MUST have a melee, I would rather bone smasher, becuase you have enough attacks that will root you long enough for you to make a sandwich.

Originally Posted by JKwervo

Someone's yeller.

Originally Posted by Sin_Screamer

So what's the deal? no one knows what they're doin with MM's here? I am an experienced PvPer, just never used MM's before.
Guess I have a few questions.
Am I ok with just ninja run and no travel?
Is kb really an issue with MM's?
which is beter to have, TP Foe or Challenge/Provoke and maybe the fear?

Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood

The thing is that Villain side stuff has always been more expensive. There have been four major changes to rewards in the last year all of which have caused major changes in the market. Those changes apply to both sides but are more noticeable on the villain side than hero side due to lower population (I suspect villain side also has a higher percentage of powergamers and farmers which would further shift supply and demand but I can't prove that).

1. Merits killed the supply of mid level pool C and D recipes. It also caused a slight decrease in most high level ones but a more stable supply of the popular globals and proc120s

2. AE caused a drop in the supply of Purples and common/uncommon salvage. But it stabalized the costs of rare salvage and increased the supply of non-purple recipes (probably for Pool As more than the others though).

3. Double Inf for level 50s caused a lot of inflation overall for the market

4. Allowing players to play at higher difficulty also caused inflation since higher con enemies reward more inf but have the same recipe drop chance (not sure about tickets).

Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood

Actually I17 is undoing some of the previous nerfs to AE. In any case AE isn't the problem. The problem is that the redside population is to small (additionally there may be differences in the population composition which enhance the problem). The simplest way to fix it is to merge the markets.