ColdSpark

First attempt failed - second succeeded (and we didn't crash the server )

Well its down now - but that's 2 hours ago that we killed him... so unless Caleb is fitted with a server time bomb... we're in the clear

FYI Guys - we just took him out on Union - didn't kill the server

Demons and Vengeful Spirits (plus a couple of helpers ) Just spawned and killed him - no server crash on union... off to polish my Hellbane badge... he went down easy btw... its summoning him that's the killer

Another quality post Jon.... Think we should make you offical SG Bard....

Morning All,

Thanks to those who kindly moved thier unused/completed chars to DVS Elite Last night - we've got a nice bit of space now to get any newcomers in (If you're reading this and fancy joining us send tells to @Lady Hellfire or @Cold Spark or anyone else you see in Demons online )

Events:

We've been asked by Art of War if we want to scrim against them in the Arena this time (they enjoyed the raid and read our post about wanting to do this) - Suggesting Friday night... if you're up for it let me know and I'll pass that along.I'm not even sure if you can do hero v villain in arena but as they're asking I'm sure they know

This weekend as mentioned above Jon will be killing Nemesis... over and over and over and over again - badge-wh0res of the world unite!


Prestige:

When I looked last night we were back up to 800k so iirc that means we need just 200 more for the shiny new generator.... we're earning about 100k a day at present which is damn good guys - give yourselves a big pat on the back.

Think that's it from me, ttfn guys.

Nice post Jon - I'm sure I'll be up for some Fake Nem action at some point over the w/e - I shall be sure to polish Fist up so he gleams appropriately

Morning all - just a couple of things to mull on...

Base:

Prestige earning going REALLY well - well done to all... At this rate I think the new generator should be in soon now which will allow us to place more items that I know people have.

Salvage:

I'll do a salvage collection at some point tonight most likely if you want to donate I shall shout out at some point.

Raids:

Will try to arrange an event this week - was thinking for a change we could do a SG vs SG Arena event? Anyone fancy that
? That way we get to fight as a team more effectively.


Rankings:

We need to decide on any changes needed to our rankings and permissions. Tonight I'll post how things are then you guys can come back with what you'd like



Cyas all later

Ooooo - just read the blurb for I7 - sounds very tasty.... Couple of nice base touches - storage items sounds useful.

No mention of Epic ATs but at least we get to do the run to 50 - nice sounding new zones, mayhem missions... yeah I'm excited now....

hahah always a pleasure, never a chore!

Just posted re Raids and Item Of Power thoughts here:

Raids and Items of Power Feedback Post
Please add your thoughts guys.

Wanted to get people opinions on this.

Our SG (Demons and Vengeful Spirits) have done half a dozen two way raids now and a definte pattern has emerged.

Defending - its a killer. We've found that unless a) you outnumber the other team or b) they give up (generally because of a)) you will lose. Even vs Art of War heros last night (we're villains) who defended VERY well, we just kept going till we knocked out their anchors.

So. If its this easy (relatively) to sucessfully raid a base what does this mean?

Lets assume for a moment that D&Vs have sucessfully completed the Cathedral Trial. We pop our shiny IoP in our base and what do we get.... +5% Damage... hmmmm :/ (this is what it was in Beta at least)

What else do we get? A shedload of other SG/VGs knocking on our (top secret) door (without an actual door in it of course as we can't build those :P) Wanting our IoP.

One raid later (and I think I'm right in saying you can't refuse a raid if you have an IoP?) we have a trashed base which will take literally MONTHS to restore at the current prestige rate.

If I'm wrong and you can refuse raids once you have an IoP well that changes things a bit... though you only keep the IoP for a while iirc then it goes back to Rularuu (wasn't she a contestant on Celeb BB?)

I think that while Raids are a really fun idea there is a bit of work needed. My list would be:

<ul type="square">[*]Fix bug with Join button (I understand this is done and coming.... sooon ) [*]Make anchors MUCH tougher please - how about you can't take them out while base has power and control? - ie shield them. [*]Make IoPs worth it... 5% buff? I'll pop a red thanks [*]Review base destruction setup... perhaps some kind of base insurance? ie we pay an amount (nothing too extortionate please (*rent cough cough*) to Arachnos and they auto-replace damaged/destroyed goods.[/list]

Any more things you guys would add to the list.

Bridger if you catch sight of this - can you tell us if Raiding and IoPs is under review at all? I guess as its all new that's probably a given...

Not complaining here guys - want to gather all contructive criticism on Raiding and IoPs in one handy place... Hmm have I put this in the wrong forum.... oh well

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Hi SG.. this is kind a thread for the entire SG and the "leaders" of the SG, i have a problem with the current ranks of the SG, i mean we have 2 leaders and they actually decided everything about the sg.. the base design, raids and for example SG missions.. what if someone would like to start a SG mission at a time where the leaders arent online? i think we need to re-thing the ranks and at least the setting for the sg.. again this is a thread for debate..

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Quite frankly... oops! Sorry that permission will be changed (if Kitty hasn't done it already!).

The only reason we want restriction on things really is to protect the base integrity (as we've all invested a lot of time in earning the prestige to build it).

So the two restrictions on that are:

1) Base editing - simple really... we saw an example last night where someone had added a targetting module to one of the turrets and that had pushed us over the energy usage meaning the Raid TP didn't work (another rousing Sparky speech went to waste! ) Easy to fix and I totally understand whoever did it wanting to make the base even better... I think what kitty and I are hoping is simply to co-ordinate the base so its always running smoothly... With a bit of luck we'll soon have the new generator and contol which means we can place more goodies

2: Accepting Raids. Given that once Items of Power are in place, accepting a raid at a time when there aren't enough of us around to defend could lead to the PERMANENT destruction of the base (cos we couldn't afford to rebuild it) I think it makes sense to restrict this for now... (though its debatable if that risk even makes it worth having an IoP in the first place.... personally at the moment I don't think a 5% buff is worth it)

Rankings generally - all setup pretty quick as Kitty said by all means lets have suggestions - even though the leaders are called "Dictators" we're anything but - its YOUR SG at the end of the day.

Well done to our raiders from last night btw - toughest attack we've had yet - again the apparent imbalance between attackers and defenders was clear sadly but that's not our fault

Afternoon all,

Just a brief reminder, Raiding this evening 9pm UK time vs Art of War SG.

Flammen I'll pop a post up this evening outlining what we think is appropriate for people to get promoted in the group (not that we're particularly formal about it)

Hope to see you all online tonight

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everyones favourite pirate will endeavour to attend =)

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So you coming then as well?

From: Lord Recluse
To: Demons and Vengeful Spirits Villain Group

/msg starts
.......RAID WARNING....... RAID WARNING..........

It has come to my attention that the Super Group "Art of War" is intending to attack your base. My spies have indicated that this is a retaliatory action for a mission that you don't have high enough clearance to know about.

I therefore direct you to gather your forces at around 9PM (UK time), tomorrow Monday the 30th of January and repel these forces from our shores. You are also granted permission to persue them back to their own base and destroy everything u see.

I know you will not let me down... because you know what will happen if you do.

/msg ends


Couldn't resist - sense of the theatrical came over me... very messy. They could field a full team so the more bods we can muster the better.

Sparky

Quick update (cos I want to get playing )

Raid:

EVIL might be up for raiding us this evening - 7-7:30 ish so if you can be on for that would be good.

Also have two other VGs looking for Raids - and possibly a Hero v Villain - think we'd be the first to run one of these so would be good to get in the books...

That's it - can't resist the urge to SMASH any more I'm logging on.

Nice one Max that was the one Yeah up for Raiding you guys - whenever really PvP duo sounds cool too.

Here's a couple of linkys shamelessly pimped from our American cousins.

Salvage Workers - Recipes for salvage and some item descriptions

Excellent post from Maldini on Item costs etc etc

There is another better one but I don't have it bookmarked on my work PC (bit of an oversight that I know )

Hi guys, In order to get our dispenser to sell BreakFrees I know I need the combat log. I don't seem to be able to see this on either the basic or advanced worktable so am thinking its an unlockable / SG badge job - any ideas?

Just checking if the forum is working...

Err who had Kitty's medication last? Seems she needs a top-up

Guys - if you're feeling all opinionated =) please checkout
Link

Re membership caps and prestige in SGs.

TTFN

Morning All.

Well last nights raid was the best we've had so far in my opinion. Great opposition from Bloodline and the match ended with both SGs sucessfully raiding once so a draw.

This felt like the right result as both teams played well, hopefully we can do it again soon

Events:

As mentioned previously I am happy to run a SF this evening. As we have a couple of peeps near 40 was thinking the 3rd SF could be a winner - Badge and lots of XP / Prestige - Will be online from 7 - 7:30 as usual and will ask around then if anyone fancies it... Or Second Respec.... don't mind.


Raids:

Will try and get us another raid for the weekend - will aim for Sunday when most of us seem to be on.

Base:

Kitty spent more time yesterday decorating the base and I think its fair to say it looked in top notch shape for us when we were "entertaining" bloodline last night... Good job

Will see you all online tonight

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Lets fight the good fight people and show them what we've got tonight

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OK show them what we've got eh?....so I need to order 1 tub of taramasalata, 1 pack of wild koalas and 4 pomegrantes for your party trick right hun?

Was that a SG invite you were after Deluge? If so I'm sure we could find a space for you - first you have to pass Dark's initiation.... All I can say is bring an ice pack and don't expect to walk normally for say.... a month.

Anyway - well up for this evening - and yes its very very quiet at work today.

Kitty makes a good point (someone log that somewhere as a first - hmm I'll pay for that one I think) us vs the Precision Rangers would be cool.

Anyone know if (or have you partaken in) a Villains v Heros Raid? Can this be done yet?

Nothing huge to add from me today as I wasn't around last night... oh wait yes I do...

Salvage:

Kinda seemed like a topic I'd missed out on before.

2 things really:

1 - what do we want from other SGs if you're trading your salvage (and please do)? Well get rid of all the Magic stuff you get, Keep all the rest and try to get hold of Aberrant Tech and Alien Tech - need a couple of bits of that - they are under Mutant I belive.

2 - What to do with non-magic salvage. If you want to deposit it with myself that's fine - if you want to refine it first even better Use the advanced table first and once you've refined all you can there, refine on the basic table. Then give me a yell and I shall come trotting to the base to pick it up. If you have magic stuff you can't trade then Mister Fister/Doc M will take it off you.

Raids:

RAID ON TODAY - 7:30pm so please be on a wee bit b4 then if you can...

Sorry to repeat myself for those that know but this is the procedure for a raid.

All raiders form into teams and meet near a designated portal entrance on one of the maps.

We either challenge or are challenged by (whoever challenges is the attacking team) another SG. If the challenge is sent to me though (you have to be face to face with the person you're challenging) there is a bug which means the challenge goes to the highest level member online (by level then alphabet).

If you get the challenge and are not leading the defense let the person who is leading know BEFORE accepting. Once you're all ready and given the go-ahead to accept signup begins.

Signup works by going into the Super Tab (where you see the list of our SG members) Then clicking the Raid button. A new window pops up where you should see the raid listed (hit refresh if you don't). There should be a "join" button but this can be bugged.
If you do see it press it, check the number of defenders/attackers goes up by one then enter the SG base immediately.

If you don't see the button then zone (ie move to another map) - the bug is GUI related and this seems to give you another shot at getting the button. If you then get Join then great if not... you may not be raiding that time (note if you get it once you will not necessarily always get it - I've had it one time out of 5).

Once in the base if you're defending the raid starts about 5 mins after the challenge is accepted - you know its started because your Nav bar changes to show how many anchors are still up and if any disruptor pylons have been set up (if we're defending and you see one of these - blow it to hell(fire)).

If we're attacking then just wait in the base for your team leader to indicate its time then head to the raid tp and do your thang!


Can't wait to raid tonight - here's hoping for as good a turn-out as Tuesday's improptu raid.

Ttfn

PS maybe I should post that raid stuff seperately as a Raid FAQ...