Cobalt Azurean

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To see another video of teams taking down dropships, swing by my Videos page and on the righthand side, near the bottom, is the link to DROPSHIP DOWN.

(It WAS on YouTube til they pulled it down, sorry.)

Michelle
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Samuraiko/Dark_Respite

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Some o' those dropped ships seemed to be near the War Walls. Did it take most o' their flight path to deal enough damage to drop'em?

Hi, Michelle. Welcome to Champion. HeroCon FTW.

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couple questions, plz excuse if they sound noobish.

Am i correct that the lgtf spawns a raid and if so is there a way to determine the zone or is it totally randumb [sic]

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Random.

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Yes but with the Day Job flight pack, you just have to park for a week in the Shard (or Train station with the accolade). Its easy to get 30mins of flight time.

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Flight Speed on it?

The biggest obstacle is havin' a ton o' flyers do it. Group Fly isn't fast enough and it's too end heavy for constant use. And they can't be slowed down anymore to keep them in the zone.

Used to be. The Steel 70 did it a while ago on Test when the Invasions were first reintroduced. But they got buffed and are drastically more difficult to take down now. You'd have to cap the zone and know the route to be able to maximize assault time on it, which is also extremely difficult.

I'd be willin' to give it a go, but I'm highly dubious as to it bein' possible.

Edit: This is them in action.

Also: Rikti Drop Ship Wiki.

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Mighty, fix your forum avatar. I miss it.

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It's working fine for me. Is it acting up for you? The Destroyer of Worlds doesn't like the French. Are you French?

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Workin' now.

Mighty, fix your forum avatar. I miss it.

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Having unexperinced players power levled, or farmed to level 50 without knowledge of the game, or what is outside Atlas is in my eyes is disapointing. It will be interesting to see what long term game effects this will have on the game in the future.

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This accurately reflects, for the most part, how I feel 'bout it.

Welcome to the boards, Emperon.

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Here's an example situation:

I was in DA today going around killing masks, because I just happened to be there doing a mission and I always spend a few min in there looking for masks if I have time (never in the zone at the appropriate level for actually farming drops). During my rounds I saw Adamastor, so I called for help. Cobalt was the first to respond (which he usually is). Why does he come to help? He doesn't need the badge, he doesn't really need just two merits, more than likely, so maybe it's to help out other players get their rewards. I've never seen him come kill a GM and not congratulate everyone else on their new shiny badge if they just earned it. If the reward is so small, or non-existant, can it really be considered farming? To me, and probably to Cobalt, it's about helping other players get what they need.

Farming, to me, and to some others, is all about what 'I' need. 'I' invite more people to join me because it will bump up the mob numbers and get more bosses, etc. I'm doing it because 'I' need the inf, or the drops, or the tickets, and I can't just wait to get those things by doing arcs with a team. If anyone else gets stuff because they happen to be tagging along, that's a bonus for them, but doesn't affect me.

YMMV. As other's have stated: I try not to care what others do, unless it's affecting me. Farming doesn't affect me unless I choose to let it. Most of the time, it doesn't.

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In regards to the GM example, absolutely.

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Don't read more into that than is specifically stated. I still think you deal too quickly with OT conversations and sometimes to harshly especially when nothing else is really going on.

That being said I don't know the circumstances behind why yet another channel was needed or why something was replaced.

I just think (and this again is my opinion) you should keep in mind the wants of the crowd it was created for. Their happiness determines its continued success or failure. I realize I represent just one opinion.

This too is off-topic.... :-D

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As you are entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine and how I feel I should deal with people in the aforementioned channel. As always, if you have a complaint, take it to the channel creator and if deemed worthy, it'll be brought to my attention whether or not I should alter the way I perform moderator actions.

Additionally, I am well aware o' what people want. And I'm painfully aware o' what a very few vocal people want, in particular. However, when I hear from a fellow badger than they turned off the channel due to the overwhelmin' chatter in it, then it's no longer fulfillin' it's design and function. So I did somethin' about it. And will continue to do somethin' about it. Thems the breaks. Deal with it.

As for the circumstances, the original Champion BMT got griefed on numerous occasions and it became basically unusable, so two other channels sprung up. Those eventually got merged into the current BMT of Champion.

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I didn't feel like quoting your "debate" in the following posts, as arguing with a wall never really goes anywhere, as proven above.

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Just because you can't win doesn't mean you shouldn't try.

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I can't really lose either, considering you never really said anything more than: 'I disagree with you, I'm right, you're wrong, that is all there is to it.'

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Apparently you missed everythin' that I said then. But then again, am I suprised? No.

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And for the record this has nothing to do with BMT specifically. That channel has a clear purpose.

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No no, thank you for realizin' this.

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Everyone farms, get over it, and stop being hypocritical, yes, you too cobalt.

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Yeah, find me in a farm.

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Okay, I'll bite. Killing the same monster/GM more than once on the same toon would be considered farming monsters/GMs. Farming does not necessarily have anything to do with the reward received, its just the act of repeating an action more than once with little or no variation.

You may be against farming when its for xp, inf, merits, tickets, etc, but my argument is that there is no difference between that and any form of repetition, simply that it comes with varying degrees and rewards.

EDIT: And I'm going to go ahead and say it, because I see it coming. IBTL

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All this.

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XD

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I didn't feel like quoting your "debate" in the following posts, as arguing with a wall never really goes anywhere, as proven above.

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Just because you can't win doesn't mean you shouldn't try.

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Everyone farms, get over it, and stop being hypocritical, yes, you too cobalt.

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Yeah, find me in a farm.

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Okay, I'll bite. Killing the same monster/GM more than once on the same toon would be considered farming monsters/GMs. Farming does not necessarily have anything to do with the reward received, its just the act of repeating an action more than once with little or no variation.

You may be against farming when its for xp, inf, merits, tickets, etc, but my argument is that there is no difference between that and any form of repetition, simply that it comes with varying degrees and rewards.

EDIT: And I'm going to go ahead and say it, because I see it coming. IBTL

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All this.

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XD

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*killed the quote pyramid*

See my example (i.e. repeatedly played through the content on numerous characters, yet it's not considered farmin'. I don't have the game on 'farm status'. Thus, not all forms o' repetition should be quantified as 'farming'.).

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I think you're missing my question, I'm more specifically looking why that's not considered farming. Rather, why is your definitely of farming correct and mine incorrect?

And I'll go ahead and say it again, I meant no disrespect for you in my previous statement. I just saw a challenge and decided to use it for its anecdotal qualities. Apologies if I did offend you.

P.S. This discussion has nothing to do with BMT before that's brought into the equation. I think Cobalt and I are mostly on the same page about what that channel is for.

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(Agreed on the P.S.)

And no, I understand what you are gettin' at. I just don't agree with it, per my example. Why isn't that considered a farm, yet all other forms o' repeatability must be quantified as such?

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Why isn't what considered a farm? I'm afraid you've lost me on that one.

Unless you're referring to my statement about how it only matters on the same toon, and that's because I consider that enough of a variance to where it no longer counts as repeatable action. (Unless its the same exact build, which is sort of silly IMO)

Right now, I think we've just come to the agree to disagree point and leave it at that. After all, all we're really arguing is semantics, and that's what I was getting at when I asked if DF really wanted to open this can of worms.

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Fair enough, I can respect that.

On a side note, despite my apparent rigid definition o' farmin', I could care less if you do it. However, don't bring it to me and expect a spiffy reply. If you can't take the time to read my /search message, I'm not goin' to take the time to be nice. Thems the breaks.

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I find it hard to believe that you'd lose sleep over anything posted in a forum.

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As a rule, not so much, no.

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*killed the quote pyramid*

See my example (i.e. repeatedly played through the content on numerous characters, yet it's not considered farmin'. I don't have the game on 'farm status'. Thus, not all forms o' repetition should be quantified as 'farming'.).

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I think you're missing my question, I'm more specifically looking why that's not considered farming. Rather, why is your definitely of farming correct and mine incorrect?

And I'll go ahead and say it again, I meant no disrespect for you in my previous statement. I just saw a challenge and decided to use it for its anecdotal qualities. Apologies if I did offend you.

P.S. This discussion has nothing to do with BMT before that's brought into the equation. I think Cobalt and I are mostly on the same page about what that channel is for.

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(Agreed on the P.S.)

And no, I understand what you are gettin' at. I just don't agree with it, per my example. Why isn't that considered a farm, yet all other forms o' repeatability must be quantified as such?

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It's a non sequitur argument you have there, Cobalt. That is, I am a college freshman, but it does not follow that I am young.

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That may be, but I'd say the fact that Cobalt is cantankerous in nature adds about 30 years or so onto his actual age, causing him to be certifiably 'older and crankier'.

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Fair enough. But what about this: I went back in time using Ouroboros and cloned a blue version of myself?

An aside: Hope this doesn't mean I'll be like Cobalt when I get old and cranky. Blue isn't my favorite color, to say the least. Sorry, Cobalt.

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No biggie. I won't lose any sleep over it.

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Everyone farms, get over it, and stop being hypocritical, yes, you too cobalt.

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Yeah, find me in a farm.

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Okay, I'll bite. Killing the same monster/GM more than once on the same toon would be considered farming monsters/GMs. Farming does not necessarily have anything to do with the reward received, its just the act of repeating an action more than once with little or no variation.

You may be against farming when its for xp, inf, merits, tickets, etc, but my argument is that there is no difference between that and any form of repetition, simply that it comes with varying degrees and rewards.

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Thanks. I had no idea. Apparently you missed the part where I said 'in a farm' which you specifically quoted.

And by the act o' repetition, I've farmed the game, as I've repeated the same content on numerous characters. Sorry, but no. I don't buy that. I have repeatedly put the boots to GMs before, but do I farm? No.

Thanks for playin'.

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No need to get defensive, you're the one that challenged someone to find you in a farm. That's the problem though that I'm trying to understand is why a farm has to fit this very narrow definition that seems to only fit what you (collective, not necessarily directed at you Cobalt) view as being "unwholesome".

Trust me when I say this Cobalt, I respect your views, I'm just trying to have a debate as to why farming has to apply specifically to running the same map for drops and not to other forms of repetition.

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See my example (i.e. repeatedly played through the content on numerous characters, yet it's not considered farmin'. I don't have the game on 'farm status'. Thus, not all forms o' repetition should be quantified as 'farming'.).

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Everyone farms, get over it, and stop being hypocritical, yes, you too cobalt.

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Yeah, find me in a farm.

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Okay, I'll bite. Killing the same monster/GM more than once on the same toon would be considered farming monsters/GMs. Farming does not necessarily have anything to do with the reward received, its just the act of repeating an action more than once with little or no variation.

You may be against farming when its for xp, inf, merits, tickets, etc, but my argument is that there is no difference between that and any form of repetition, simply that it comes with varying degrees and rewards.

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Thanks. I had no idea. Apparently you missed the part where I said 'in a farm' which you specifically quoted.

And by the act o' repetition, I've farmed the game, as I've repeated the same content on numerous characters. Sorry, but no. I don't buy that. I have repeatedly put the boots to GMs before, but do I farm? No.

Thanks for playin'.

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Everyone farms, get over it, and stop being hypocritical, yes, you too cobalt.

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Yeah, find me in a farm.

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Oh it's not that hard when ya don't use your biased definition of the word "farm".

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Keep tellin' yourself that. Might happen someday.

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Everyone farms, get over it, and stop being hypocritical, yes, you too cobalt.

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Yeah, find me in a farm.