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Right, so the fact you are happy with the set makes all other claims otherwise inferior. Unfortunately, things do not get reviewed or changed from being complacent with the status quo. I am not statisfied with the current state of DA based on my experience with the set pre- and post- IOs.

I never really had end trouble on my IOed Dark/Em tank. The problem was he just wasn't that far and above what other tanks, with different primaries, could do that spend half the inf or even used SOs. I'm sure some with blame the player or the build but I know how to build a tank in this game and I'm very confident in my overall ability to play one as well.

And I agree with you. On teams, everything die pretty quickly (in the higher levels) until you get to the big ole bag of HPs called AVs. This is another area where a DA tank can be seen as inferior. All those nifty mitigation tools, and that wonderful heal, are severally handicapped. Much moreso than...dare I say it...all other tanker/brute/scrapper armor sets.

It's not only the endurance woes, but also the general ineffectiveness of the set (IMO of course).

6 toggles is quite a bit, then add in the end hungry Dark Regen because DA is a resistance set and you have endurance woes. Not to mention, Brutes and Tankers will dip into the Fighting Pool for some additional S/L Resistance at the very least.

So, that's 7 toggles.

Now what about KB protection? It's acrobatics or IOs. I either have to get another toggle, .26 end/s (IIRC), or invest in something that is deemed optional by the powers at be.

So, that's 8 toggles...plus Dark Regeneration.

Unless your brute, scrapper, tank has uber set bonuses (which brings us back to IOs being optional), or your primary/secondary has a endurance tool, then your brute, scrapper or tank will start to show some blue bar disabilities.

I'm not talking from inexperience here either. I've tried to make DA work many ways, and my most recent project was a Dark/Energy Tank. I decided to try a defensive root to help mitigate damage and lessen the use of Dark Regen. I took the 4 armor toggles, Death Shroud and OG. I also picked up Tough to make my tank a bit more...tough. I then added Weave and CJ to fill out a bit more defense. I spent quite a bit of inf on this tank, purchasing the numina/miracle/regen tissue uniques along with a +end proc for stamina and 2 KB IOs. I even slotted the 3 armor toggles with Impervium Armor for +endurance.

Even with 40% s/l defense and all those IOs, the Tank was still "meh." It was definitely a better tank but still lagged behind other sets that spent the same amount of time and inf/IOs on their builds.

Like I initially stated, the set has too many weaknesses and not enough pros to offset those cons. Most comparable sets do not suffer from all these weaknesses and are arguably better canidates. I like resistance based sets because I can manage the efficiency of my survivability better, but this set lags behind IMO, and could use a "once over" from Castle and his crew.

...or prefer sets that don't require as much babysitting. Comparable armors offer same, if not better, mitigation without worrying about juggling toggles to maintain efficient endurance usage.

You realize your a fanboi by playing this game, registering for the community site and then posting?

I sure do miss trolls that were half-way intelligent.

While you are correct in this instance, I still think DA could use some looking over or attention from Castle and his crew.

I wish people would read through the thread before sticking their foot in their pie hole.

Hmm, I see a chance to be nitpicky...I'll take it!

Technically, the stalker employed only one shot.









I'm not really that dense, just passing time at the moment.

Only if that perma-dom is played by someone intelligent. I've been on a RSF with a non-intelligent player and they were unable to keep the AVs perma-slept (that sounds weird). In the end, we just rushed em.

On Freedom, I'll see at least 1-2 STFs a night being formed in various global channels but I rarely see a RSF being formed (maybe 1-2 a week, and that's being generous).

My first and most prolific experience with EM was on my EM/ELA Brute. When playing the Brute AT, fast paced attacks are a must to generate Fury to acceptable levels quickly. Many Brutes, including myself, would use ET quite often, once Fury was 50% or more, as part of our attack chain since the self-damage could be shrugged off in most instances. However, with the additional 1.67s added to the animation this same style of play was affected and all but eliminated.

I changed my playstyle after the ET animation was increased and I adapted. I then shelved my Brute because I didn't get the same enjoyment as I once did. I then found SS/WP, Fire/SR and Claws/INV to be far more exciting and fast paced to match the playstyle I found enjoyable on the Brute AT.

Conversely, I made a Dark/EM Tank the smae time these changes hit live since my testing lead me to believe that EM was now more suited to a Tank Secondary. The Tank AT does not need to worry about the fast paced attacks and can concentrate on dropping a large burst to LTs and Bosses.

So, the animation change drastically changed the way the set played for my Brute, but also gave Tanks that "big hitting set" some were clamoring to play.

This.

I forgive ya...you had me at "clouded..."