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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
    Yes, because I don't believe having all four Very Rares is a reasonable expectation of a solo player.
    Why?

    Aren't you solo on your uber videos?
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
    Again, how long will it take for me to get full sets of PvP IOs into my character via tips?
    Stop deflecting and answer my question.
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
    I think they can obtain these things in a reasonable amount of time.
    So you feel the current optional path of converting shards to threads, which can take up to 2.7 years to complete, is a reasonable amount of time?
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
    It's just not going to convince me because I don't see any reason the solo player should get these rewards at all.
    I'm not sure if you are being intentionally obtuse or what but you keep missing many points made by posters. You can't seem to get away from solo players being catered to but Dis already laid out various other reasons why someone could not run the trials.

    It's pretty sad you want to prevent others from obtaining the goods in a reasonable amount of time. It's very petty of you.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
    Yes, we can use our Incarnate powers elsewhere. But if you're not doing incarnate designed content, you don't need them.
    I'm sure my Reactive Ability and my Clarion ability will be very helpful on certain TFs. And I have no doubt that Void will come in handy on a Mothership Raid. So, why don't I need them?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
    If you're a solo player in a massive multiplayer game, and some rewards are out of your reach because you choose not to involve yourself in that content, then I'm sorry. The fact that the devs even provided a way to obtain these rewards without participating in the content is a gift.
    I really wish people would stop making this a solo vs. team thing. The other option for Threads is Shard conversion and it's 1000 times slower than running the trials. It's hardly a fair and reasonable substitute. I don't see why anyone would begrudge their fellow players the ability to earn threads at a more reasonable rate than what is currently allowed via shards.

    It's a gift? Sweet jeebus, that line is nuts.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
    This is all in my opinion, of course. I don't see a reason to change it. I haven't seen a compelling argument that it needs to be changed. As EvilGeko pointed out, anyone who doesn't like it has the burden of proof.
    You don't see how spending 2.7 years and billions of inf on converting shards to threads, as being the only other option, isn't a compelling argument?
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    I understand and agree with your point to a certain extent. But it's more nuanced than that. Persons who refuse for whatever reason to engage in the trials don't need to be treated as second class citizens, but they also won't really be able to leverage the additional power rares give you.

    For example, I was doing a tip mission today and much of the power I gained from the Incarnate abilities this week were a complete waste. I herded up a nice pack of DE mobs and slapped a judgment on them. Of course, it wasted them. BUT, the damage was so beyond their number of HP and that's an uncommon Ion. A rare or very rare wouldn't have done any better.
    Was this at +2,+3,+4 Level difficulty?

    I need more experience with Void but I'm pretty sure that the T4 version of mine offers a significant damage debuff. It's possible I could waste them all. Need to try it again. (took void due to concept, dark/ defender).

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    I get the idea of wanting the shinies because you want the shinies. But at a certain point, there's really nothing the game is throwing at a solo character where a rare is that much better than an uncommon.
    To take your reply; So?

    I know people who will replace the 3 level 45 IOs in Hasten with level 50 IOs. This game is perfect for min/max players and there are a whole lot of them. Telling people they don't need Tier 4 is not an argument, it's a deflection.
  7. Ya know, it's a tough call. I really feel like my Dark/Sonic defender gets slighted on these trials because my debuffs are nearly worthless until a AV battle (the mobs melt before Darkest night can finish animating) and I only have one AoE (Howl). Well, I ahve two now due to VOID. Yummy.

    Anyways, I've lost count the amount of trials I have run but I'm guessing 15+ and I still have yet to unlock Destiny and Lore (currently at about 15% on each). That to me is BS. And no, I don't leach. I'm a very active participant when I play. Shoot, on ITFs, I herd mobs if the tank or leader is too slow. These trials are no different.

    I'm pretty sure any point I had at the beginning of my post is long gone now.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
    If you refuse to do the trials.....why do you need to go any higher than the uncommon?

    The level shift for the rares of Destiny and Lore only works IN the trials. So, if you aren't going to run them, why do you need it?
    Aside from the level shift, do Rare and Very Rare sections give that ability more power?

    I know it's a dumb question but that's how I feel every time some poses a question similar to yours.

    Sure, I don't need the level shift but I also don't need the damn game either.
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kelenar View Post
    The smash-and-grab
    Uuuuuugh. Uuuuuuuuuugh, you guys. This is where my ignorance comes into play: Every time I've done this trial, the leader has basically gone, 'okay, we run in to the spawns with boxes, then blow up the boxes! Ignore all the enemies!' Which leads to the more durable Scrappers/Tanks/Brutes charging through the mission, while most of the squishies trail after them and get horribly maimed to death over and over. My own quasi-main, my Earth/Fire Dominator, has PFF and is invisible, so it's not a huge inconvenience for me personally, except that it usually ends up with about three people trying to do this entire phase alone as a result. For all I know, you get extra time every time you kill a spawn and my leaders are just ignorant, but if this phase is best handled by stealthing, that's kinda bad design in my opinion. This isn't a standard glowy hunt; the boxes are surrounded by level 54s.
    I'm right there with you on this one. It took me 3 Lambda Trials until I FINALLY figure out what the hell was going on. The team leaders would run off so fast and the lag from the warehouses would nearly stop me dead in my tracks. It's become much easier as more people get experience with the trial but it still is a boring and poorly designed component of the Trial.
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
    Let me ask a stupid question.

    If you don't intend to do the trials, what need have you of the trial rewards?
    I don't understand this question. Are you asking what need they have for Judgement, Lore, and/or Destiny powers? Seems like an obvious answer.

    Answer: Because they are awesome powers to supplement my awesome hero/villain!
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Pebblebrook View Post
    Maybe it wasn't just to ward off the hoarders. The devs seem to like solutions that cover multiple issues and hoarding might just be one but not the entire reason.

    And yes, if the new currency is solely to hamper the hoarders, then probably should expect new currency with the next 2 trials since the current 2 makes it very easy to amass a stockpile of threads long before they put out the new stuff.
    I gotta wonder if Astral Merits will be earned in the new trials. Right now they are just gravy for extra threads but we also know Posi said they will be used to purchase other items 'soon."
  12. Last night, I was on a Lambda and Mapserved. No biggie. I log back in and REsume event...only to find myself in someone's AE Farm! I did this a couple times but wound up in the same farm multiple times.

    I did end up with some nice tickets though. :P
  13. Clouded

    My lambda guide.

    Now you just need to add the maps for the warehouse and training facility for the crates, etc.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by OneFrigidWitch View Post
    Clouded/Test_rat, you are on ****** teams then.
    Not really. I've only failed 2 lambdas and 1 BAF out of at least 15+ runs. In fact, I haven't failed a BAF since the 1st failed run. We do fight the adds in most cases. I wish I were making this up because then I would be lying and have my slots unlocked, but this is all true.

    Even on lambda when we cleared the ENTIRE streets, my % was only about 26%. Perhaps it has something to do with me playing a support type AT (dark/sonic def) and I'm not supplying enough DPS?
  15. On BAF, I get about 8-10% progress on slots. On Lambda, it's more like 12-15%. Nothing near 50% or whatever GG claimed.
  16. I'm trying to determine the best path for mezz protection for my Dark Defender. I was thinking of Clarion but then heard the Battle Orbs provide status protection?

    So, two questions:

    1. Is there a detailed power info for the battle orbs?

    2. Would the orbs provide sufficient mezz protection or is Clarion the all around better choice?

    If it helps...KB isn't an issue but I would love some protection from holds and stuns.
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    Lambda gives about 50% IXP per run - I unlocked Interface after 2 runs.
    I call shenanigan's.
  18. Where are the contacts for these two Task/Strike Forces?
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    No flamewar here considering I haven't insulted anyone or been belligerent. Unless you use a definition of those terms not connected with the English language.

    I love arguing about this stuff too, so keep it coming. In a few weeks the specious and hyperbolic nature of these complaints will be obvious to all (see e.g. Issue 19, Issue 19 Strike Pack for recent examples).
    I have made no hyperbolic complaints.

    Again, since you seem insistent on ignoring my feedback, my only complaint with the system as implemented is the inability to obtain threads using current content other than the trials, and the current Shard -> Thread conversion is not reasonable in anyway.

    Feel free to continue side stepping if you cannot directly respond to my points. I also am awaiting your apology for your insinuating I was insulting and belittling others when you obviously found out I was not.
  20. As someone with a Dark/ Def as their main, I have no issue with other players having an AoE Heal, Rez, +Resis and +Def.

    In fact, that takes pressure off me to reserve my heal and rez, and not use them offensively like I enjoy doing.
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shadow State View Post
    Yes you can. It might take a lot of Shards, Inf and time, an amount some might find unreasonable, to do it, but you can still get the powers without doing any Trials

    Who in their right mind finds this reasonable...

    Originally Posted by MrLiberty:

    10 Shards gets you 5-10 threads.

    12 shards gets you 3 common or 1 uncommon piece of salvage.

    10 threads get you nothing.
    20 Threads gets you 1 common piece of salvage.
    60 Threads gets you an uncommon.
    340 Threads + 100 Mil influence gets you 1 rare.
    1360 Threads + 800 Mil influence gets you 1 very rare

    GL getting 1,360 shards over 5 ish months (Assuming you can earn 10 shards a day every day) And that is just for the piece of rare salvage required for it. If you want to break down what you need total to get a tier 4.

    You are looking at 15 Commons 2 uncommons, 2 Rares and 1 Very rare orrrrrr 2,460 shards to reach 1 tier 4 incarnate ability. (Plus 1.6 Billion influence). Of course this will take you a little over 8 months of playing 1 character every day. To slot out 1 of your incarnate slots.

    Whats that? You want all four. I hope you didn't have any plans for the next 3 years if you are a solo player.





    Once more for effect:

    You are looking at 15 Commons 2 uncommons, 2 Rares and 1 Very rare orrrrrr 2,460 shards to reach 1 tier 4 incarnate ability. (Plus 1.6 Billion influence). Of course this will take you a little over 8 months of playing 1 character every day. To slot out 1 of your incarnate slots.
  22. ...making my Dark/ Defender heal! I've become so accustomed to my debuffs/buffs protecting my team from the enemy that I rarely use my heal to heal. I grew accustomed to throwing it out on big baddies for the additional - regen.

    I've also had to stop throwing out my Howling Twilight so much and reserve it in case a few players faceplant on the League.

    These trials are making me pay attention again...it's MADNESS!

    I even died...the horror.

    Lastly, if you die in the trial...please try to wait a few secs before running to the hospital. The rest of your team will thank you for letting me cast Vengeance.
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    Only person throwing insults is you.
    Really? Please provide those insults because I have been doing a very good job at being civil and attempting to keep the threads civil.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    The key parts of both are also timed which maintains a maximum commitment unless people are screwing around on the untimed parts.
    The trials are not completely timed. Please stop skewing the facts to suit your argument. Example, Lambda Trial. You can clear all the mobs and Turrets, or not. Doing so will take much more time then only clearing what you have to.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    No because it's not relevant, especially now. Right now you can get on trials so quickly that it actually hurts your point.
    Yesterday, the 1 trial I had time for took 20 minutes to setup. I was the second person to join. The entire trial and setup took just under an hour. I thought that was awesome and I have no issues with the time.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    Again only person throwing insults is you. The bit about cybering was in jest. It wasn't directed at anyone. You're directing things at me. You are not giving feedback. You are complaining incessantly. That's not an insult. That's what you're doing. If you don't like the trials. Oh well. I do. Post what you want, I'll post what I want.
    I have provided lots of feedback and provided zero insults. You seem to have an inability to differentiate I WANT NAO from actual feedback like...More options please. Did you miss the part where I gave feedback about liking the trials? I bet not.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    If you want MMORPGs to stop being MMORPGs and want to keep belittling and insulting people who are having fun then put me on ignore like Sam Tow. Then you can complain to your hearts content that a MMORPG is adding things that MMORPGs tend to add.
    Where have I belittled or insulted anyone? I think you are confusing me with others. I have not complained about the Trials. I really wish you would actually read my posts other than resorting to knee-jerk responses.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    If that were your only issue then you wouldn't have felt the need to argue the point above.
    I responded to your post because you are going out of your way to be insulting, aggressive and all around belligerent to anyone that has an opposing viewpoint. It's not very conducive to a discussion.

    I'm starting to think you are merely attempting to bait me into a flamewar. Good luck Mr. Geko. I enjoy talking to people like you.
  24. Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    You will either complete or fail BAF in about that time. Assuming you aren't cybering for the first untimed part that is.
    I had a sneaky suspicion your estimate did not include the forming of the team. And pleae stop throwing around veiled insults, it's very immature.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    No because that's variable. I've zoned into Pocket D and gotten an invite and been on the trial 3 minutes after logging in.
    Hey guy. The completion time for Lambda and BAF is also variable.

    So, you are willing to count the variable nature of the actual task but not the setup time? K.

    What about the other 15-23 people that were already in the zone. Did you survey each one to find out how long they were waiting for the league to fill?


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EvilGeko View Post
    But please don't let me keep you all from being upset while everyone else has fun.
    You assume that because people decide to post feedback that they are not having fun. Here's a revelation for you...just because players post feedback does not mean they are not enjoying the content or are even upset. It's you that keeps resorting to grade school insults (see your first post above).

    Case in point. I like the trials. They are very fun and even with my limited play time, I can still log in and enjoy one or two a week. My only issue with the...well...Issue comes down to the lack of options for the Incarnate System. I feel the devs should take a look at making existing content applicable for earning threads and/or components. And/Or revising the current converstion method for shards -> threads.
  25. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Duncan_Frost View Post
    Sometimes the entitlement complex displayed by the forumgoers here plain disgusts me.
    Sometimes the lumping of all forumgoers, with feedback about the new content, under a blanket statement of entitlement complex, just plains disgusts me.