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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Arilou View Post
    Yes they were. TF commander.
    You can't go moving the goal posts now.

    We were discussing end game content and the rewards. You named certain raids and TFs and I rebutted.

    Accolades are a different ball of wax. They are not a 10 'level' character progression.

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    Originally Posted by Spectral_Hunter View Post
    I understand your point and you probably caught the guy using hyperbole.

    But comparing an accolade, which if I remember correctly, was specifically designed to be very minor by design and incarnate powers is bit of a stretch.
    I don't remember using hyperbole but I agree with the rest of your post.
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    Oh snap!

    POST-ACTION

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane View Post
    Anyone remember who's remains are currently being stored in Galaxy's MAGI offices?
    Who?
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Arilou View Post
    The precedent for requiring team to acquire content is there. This is nothing new. It's always been that way.
    Ya, no one is arguing otherwise. But you seem to keep ignoring that the REWARDS portion of our rebuttals.

    The REWARDS were not locked soloely behind team content. That's the difference with the Incarnate Rewards.
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    Originally Posted by Arilou View Post
    Better to have a clear "Now you failed, try again." to bottle up that rage.
    I agree with this general statement.

    However, I don't agree with the rule that forced Leo's trial to fail. Hopefully, it was merely an oversight and is going to be corrected soon.
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    Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
    And that wasn't breaking it, either, since the core function of the power remained. The power had an effect added to it, but the EndRed function of the power remained.
    I guess you are technically right. In my opinion, the Core Function of that power is now the Heal/Regen, not the endurance benefit.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Arilou View Post
    Sure they can be earned elsewher: Shards>Threads conversion and the Apex/Tin Mage TF.
    K.

    The shard conversion is ridiculous and not reasonable by any means.

    APEX/Tin Mage are TFs, meaning teamed content. I.E. not for small teams or soloists. Obvious stuff here.

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    Originally Posted by Arilou View Post
    There's also the notice>40 threads conversion.
    Again, team content.

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    Originally Posted by Arilou View Post
    They can also be traded within the same account at a fee (using the merit vendors)

    Now, you can argue whether or not the conversion rates are reaonable (I'd say they're probably a bit too harsh) but they do exist.
    The conversion rates are more than unreasonable. All of your 'solutions' require more teamed content.

    How does that help small teams or people wanting to solo?
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    The only time I remember this 'cottage rule' being broken was when Energize was added to Electric Armor.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Arilou View Post
    Hami-O's couldn't for quite a while. And the same is true for the trial rewards anyhow. (the only excpetion bein the Ascendant Radiance costume pieces)
    Hami-Os were tradeable.

    Yes, the new rewards cannot be traded or earned elsewhere which is poor design. That's the point many people are making.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    That would mean that if you repeated any content, it'd be a "grind"
    And?
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Arilou View Post
    The end-game has ALWAYS been multiplayer-only, FYI. Hamidon, Mothership Raid, LRSF and STF has always been team-required.
    True, but all of the rewards from that end-game content can be retrieved from other means. Whereas Incarante end-game rewards cannot be gained, reasonably, outside of the trials.
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    I had a thought.

    What if the solo path was just another story arc with restriction?

    This story arc and solo path would have the following restrictions:

    1. Each mission completion is a chance for common or uncommon component.
    2. Each mission completion will reward a chance for Astral merit.
    3. Certain mission objectives will reward a chance for Astral merit.
    4. Each arc completion is a chance for a rare component.
    5. Each arc completion will reward 1 empyrean merit
    6. The mission arc can only be completed once every 20 hours.
    7. Mobs have a chance to drop threads instead of shards.
    8. Mobs have a base difficulty of level 52.
    9. Lastly, the solo path would not reward Very Rare components. You would be required to use conversions or run the trials for VR/T4.
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    How about just saying...

    'Thanks for your concern Rylas, I will take that into consideration.'

    ?

    Oh wait, this is the internet...carry on.
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    Ya, the lists has some issues but hard to argue with Doctor Afro at the #1 spot.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
    And how many companies actually do what the customers say when they are told how to run their business?
    Who cares. That's not what I was referring to. Many companies consider customer feedback to be on of their top priorities.

    Companies that fail as costumer service will fail completely.

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    Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
    You can tell them what to do all day long, they are under no obligation to listen to you.
    Duh, but not listening to your customers is a great way to go out of business. Now, don't twist my words and think 'listening to customers' = doing everything they say.
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    Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
    You know, in all my 31 years, I have never seen a business of any kind where the customers feel so entitled to try and dictate how that business is run.
    Well, I stopped reading your post after this sentence.

    You must have never been a manager of a decent sized company. Customers and clients will gladly tell you how to run your business without you even soliciting their opinions. Perhaps you just live in a bubble or something.

    And feedback is not the same as a 'demand.' Please understand the difference.
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    Originally Posted by Furio View Post
    I would seriously like an answer to it. Why would the devs want to make access to near-gamebreaking powerlevels easier for those that don't want to do trials, when trials are the only content currently designed for that power?
    What do you mean? I can use judgement, lore pets, Clarion and Reactive just fine outside of the trials. I love having them now as these powers fill in gaps or weaknesses in my builds. Dark/Sonic defender now has AoE damage (Void), Pets, more damage (reactive) and mezz protection (clarion).

    I don't understand your question and why it's only limited to those running trials.

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    Originally Posted by Furio View Post
    Never mind the fact that the fact that people are continuing to make threads about the (intentional) inefficiency of solo-earning incarnate stuff is akin to asking for it NAO (even though all involved should understand the basics of how PS developments content and the kind of timeframes they deal with)
    If we don't make it clearn NOW, then it could get put off until I22, or I23 or further.

    Why does it bother you that others are requesting an option to the current method of advancement for incarnate abilities?
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    I just want to clarify one thing.

    There are 3 groups of people here.

    1. Those that like to solo strictly, like Billz, and do the trials because it's the only reasonable progression for incarante abilities.

    2. Those that run the trials but also enjoy soloing, like me. I've run more trials than I know of and I have 1 character with all T4 and 2 others with T3s. My goal is to be able to make meaningfull progression on my incarnate abilities while soloing.

    3. Those that run the trials only. They like em and run em.

    I don't see why there has to be such animosity towards anyone of these groups. It really is below this community to act like this.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Friggin_Taser View Post
    Okay, so spamming the same thread over and over again on a daily basis and throwing a forum tantrum is okay as long as you get what you want?
    The only tantrum I have seen today is from TonyV. Do you have others?

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    Originally Posted by Friggin_Taser View Post
    We get it: you want soloable incarnate content. The devs have heard your cries. And since we're doing trials now that have been in the works for at least a year, it's going to take time to make them. We know there are strike teams doing specific things, so the argument of "ALL RESOURCES ARE DOING RAIDS" now is not credible in this situation.
    When did you become a red name? It would be more useful if an actual dev provided feedback and not a forum poster.

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    Originally Posted by Friggin_Taser View Post
    So if you are saying you and your ilk are essentially holding the forum hostage with the same anti-raiding threads posted multiple times daily, please let us know now. It'll be nice to have a list of forum saboteurs to point to.
    This is childish. Billz thread was a objective test to provide facts about the only solo progression available to players. It was then invaded by trolls that cannot read the words posted on the forum.

    You are a perfect example.
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    Originally Posted by JuliusSeizure View Post
    If you choose to limit yourself to a single vector of play, I don't think it's up to the developers to make it a completely viable option from 1-50 and from Alpha to Omega (and beyond).
    HI.

    You may have missed my post earlier.

    I play the trials and I would like a reasonable solo path. Why? I'm glad you asked.

    As I've stated previously...sometimes my only ability to play this game is for 20-30 min increments. I've tried to run trials in those times and the consequences were an angry wife and a pissed off doctor for being late to our appointment.

    So, I want a solo progression that is reasonable for the times when I can't run a trial. Right now I just don't login when I only have 20 mins to play. With a reasonable path, I could still get a mission or two completed towards my incarante abilities.
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    Originally Posted by Furio View Post
    I just don't see the need for it NAO!!! .
    Stop saying this. It's absurd.

    No one here is asking for it right now.

    Are we now to the point of making up stuff to try and invalidate others opinions?
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Furio View Post
    If one isn't doing the trials for *whatever* reason, where is the *need* for solo incarnate power acquisition at a faster rate?
    Why do people keep assuming it's iTrials OR soloing?

    I like the trials, I play them often...when I have the TIME. A reasonable solo option would allow me to still advance my hero or villain when I only have time for a mission or two instead of a Trial.

    I WANT the power of the Incarnate because it makes my character more powerful.
    My Defender now has perma mezz protection and you are seriously asking people that want to solo why they want additional powers?

    It's so effing obvious the question doesn't NEED to be answered.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TonyV View Post
    Was I replying to you in that quote?



    I came in guns blazing because you put forth an idiotic contrived "test" based on playing the game in a way that no one--admittedly not even you--plays and made a demand that the developers changed the game based on it. It has little to do with how I play. Like I said, I don't even necessarily disagree with what you're petitioning for.

    You know what I find really sad? How you keep trying to frame this as if I have some weird, deviant play style. I've got some news for you, bub. Most people do play the game just like me, and they're giddy with delight at all of the new shinies that we're getting. YOU are the one asking--no, DEMANDING--changes to the game based on a weird, abnormal, totally bogus way of playing that you have repeatedly admitted that you don't even play.



    Do you even know what a straw man is?

    YOUR "TEST" IS MEANINGLESS. That doesn't mean that the solo path is or isn't viable. That doesn't means I do or don't like Incarnate trials. That doesn't mean that I do or don't want a solo path. That doesn't mean that soloers are or are not left out in the cold. That doesn't mean that the devs do or don't hate you.

    All it means--the ONLY thing we can infer from this "test"--is that you have no clue how to conduct a meaningful test. Any thought or sentence formed from the premise that "[Based on this,] you..." immediately becomes invalid. Not true, not false. Invalid. Undefined. Meaningless. Divided by zero.
    Ya know, this thread was peaceful and fine before you posted. I hope the mods recognize this as well.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blacier View Post
    So basically what I see here is people crying because they are not getting the same amount of reward that we get from running teams of 24?
    Did you bother to read anything?

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    Originally Posted by Blacier View Post
    You are in the wrong game. Way to make a lame attempt to bring teaming in an MMO (social based multi player game) to a grinding halt. The idea of the game is to try and influence teaming not stop it.
    This is hyperbole and really the only tactic trolls use against players that are requesting a legitiment soloing experience.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blacier View Post
    And honestly if you are soloing all the time what in the heck do you really need incarnate powers for anyhow?
    And honestly, if you are teaming all the time what in the heck do you really need incarnate powers for anyhow?

    Seriously, why? Why does being on a team suddenly make your advancement that much more valid?

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    Originally Posted by Blacier View Post
    The simple answer has been in front of your faces the whole time, if you don't like to team I have one word for you "X-BOX"
    So you want subscribers to quit the game? Cutting off your nose to spit your face, eh?
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    Numina TF in i21

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Johnny_Butane View Post
    How can we defeat 10 Hellions in Galaxy City?

    I'd rather they alter the TF than send us to the supposed Ouroboros flashback of Galaxy.
    Perhaps I'm missing information and I know GC is getting a revamp...but where was it stated Hellions would not be found in GC anymore?
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    Thanks for bringing this up again Billz. The sad part is the Devs are very aware of this information as it was brought up time and time again by different posters. I believe Dispari tried their best to make it a hot topic but it feel on deaf ears as well.

    I do hope a change is made because here is what happens to me right now.

    I get home around 10:30-11 from my second job and a 15 hour work day. I open the computer with the intent to login and get some incarnate progression on one of my 50s. I look at the time and realize I don't want to be up until 12:30 or 1. So I decide that I can run a mission or two really quick and make some progress towards my incarnate slots...oh wait, I cannot.

    So, what do I do? I just close the launcher and open a forum and read. I haven't logged into this game for 4 days now because I just don't have the time for the trials. Sure I could run other content, like Tips, but I WANT incarnate progression on my 50s. I've spent 5 years leveling them and I would now like to have those 50s participate in the end game content without having to rely on the trials OR just ridiculous shard -> thread conversion.

    RAWR