ClawsandEffect

Yes, revamping the way the entire combat system works in a 6+ year old game is clearly the answer.

They would have to redo every single powerset in the game from the ground up in order to do that. Not only is that a HUGE amount of work that would take forever, but the end result would suck in comparison to other games that will have been released by the time they are done with it.

They would also probably have to reconfigure the game engine itself in order to do it. From what I understand the reason we have rooting in the animations is because the game engine they are using doesn't work any other way. I'm not a programmer, but I can't imagine that rebuilding an MMO from the ground up to be completely different is going to be a small undertaking.

Overhauling the entire game the way you want them to just would not be worth the time and effort they would have to spend on it. If they are going to revamp things like that, they would be better served doing those things with an eventual sequel that they may make someday.

They are trying to add some dynamics to the combat in level capped content without going to all the trouble of basically redesigning the whole freaking game. It's not half-baked, it's just the limitation of what they can do with a 6+ year old game engine.

Unless you think they should stop all work on new content and put their entire staff to work rebuilding the entire game. But that would result in a LOT of their playerbase getting disgusted and leaving long before they finish it, because they hadn't gotten anything new in several years.

Well, the fact that I wasn't here the first year might explain that.

Another reason would be that it is still a good game, but applying the exact same tactics to every encounter there is gets old after a while.

It's basically: "Oh, an AV! Okay, everyone buff up. Tank, get in there and piss it off. Okay, everyone....GET HIM!"

That's fine, but when everything you do can be accomplished by the exact same means, it kind of loses it's appeal after a while.

Only recently have they even tried to change that up, and some people are complaining because they dared to make them change their tactics. Do you LIKE standing in one spot and beating on an AV until it drops, and then doing the exact same thing for every AV in the game?

With this being the "end game" content that has been highly requested for years now, I for one would have been very disappointed if it was exactly the same stuff we've already been doing for years. And from what I've noticed on the forums, I'm not alone in that.

In my opinion, some new content that is more than "Kill a bunch of fluff enemies until you get to the big bad, then gather in a circle around him and hit him until he falls, wash, rinse, repeat" is a GOOD thing.

If you want to play the game mindlessly doing the exact same thing for every single mission or TF you do, there is plenty of content available for you to do. Saying that NO ONE should get any new wrinkles in the stuff they do because YOU don't want it is just pure selfishness.

I read the underlying message from both of your posts as "I don't care if other people like this content, I don't like it, so they should get rid of it."

How would you feel if I said that you should have part of the game you enjoy taken away because *I* don't like it?

If you don't like what they are doing with the new content, you don't have to play it. But not liking it gives you no right to say that no one else should have it either.

I'm not positive, but I think Bill Z may be taking a break from the game at the moment. He plays on the same server I do and is in the same global channels, and i haven't seen him on in a while.

That would be INSANELY overpowered.

The only toggle tier 9 is Granite, and it has significant drawbacks to using it: You can't jump, you can't fly, you move like molasses in January so you are forced into Teleport if you want any kind of mobility while running it, your recharge is debuffed, forcing you to slot recharge bonuses just to get back to what your recharge was while not running it, and it debuffs the damage you deal.

Unstoppable has none of those drawbacks and it caps all of your resistances, as well as increasing your end recovery and mez protection. The crash is the cost you pay for the level of survivability it grants you. If they ever DO make it a toggle power, expect it to become just as harsh as Granite as far as other aspects of your character are concerned.

You CAN'T switch the order of those two powers. If you did it would break every single SS character in the game. The people who actually DID take Hand Clap would find themselves with a power that isn't available at the level they are at. It would essentially require there to be 2 completely separate versions of Super Strength.

For an example of this exact thing in action, look at Electric Armor's Energize. Tankers and Scrappers got it earlier than Brutes and Stalkers.....because when they ported it there were no tankers or scrappers in existence with the set, but there WERE brutes and stalkers that had it. They couldn't move it in the pre-existing characters because it would have broken things badly.

Another example is Brute SR. It gets Evasion at level 20, as opposed to scrappers getting it at 35. It makes more sense to get it earlier than 35, but they couldn't move the power because of all the characters it would break. But, when they ported it to brutes they COULD move it, because there weren't any SR brutes that would be hurt by it.

So, anything else that is done, the powers will have to remain exactly where they currently are.

Oh, noes!

We can't have the game evolving now, can we? How much longer will the game stay viable or relevant if everything they release is just a variation of the same old crap they've been releasing for 6 years?

The game HAS to change or it gets stagnant, and stagnant games don't last very long in this day and age when there are so many other choices. Speaking of other choices, they exist, so if you dislike the direction the game is headed in that much, there's nothing stopping you from choosing one of them.

I'm sure this post isn't going to keep you from whining about it, but hey, there IS something to be said for games that are stagnant and never change in the slightest. I mean, look how popular Pong still is.

If you want the game to be easy....you have plenty of things you can do that are easy, no one is FORCING you to run these TFs.

This goes for both you and EvilRyu: Yes, you are both correct in that these TFs and the Incarnate system aren't like anything that has come before them. Now, most people feel that is a GOOD thing, but you two seem to think the game should stay exactly the same forever. I'm sensing a couple impending ragequits when the devs refuse to see things your way and make everything just like everything else.

You are STILL judging them by their appearance.

Whether their appearance is by their choice or not is completely irrelevant, as it is not THEIR actions that are the problem.

YOUR actions are the problem, specifically the action of JUDGING THEM BECAUSE OF HOW THEY LOOK.

Whether you judge someone by their clothes, or the size of their chest you are doing the same exact thing: Judging them by something about their appearance.

Of course this is going to fall on deaf ears though, because you are so convinced of your own moral superiority that you seem to think it gives you the right to judge people based solely on what they look like. It doesn't, and only pure arrogance makes anyone think it does. And yes, that makes you JUST as bad as anything you accused Master-Blade of doing. Pure hypocrisy.

Have a nice day, you've proven time and time again that you will twist anything to mean whatever you want it to mean just to avoid being proven wrong. News flash: You HAVE been proven wrong several times in this thread, and everyone sees it except you.

No hate, just.....confusion.

No idea why you would remove one of your best attacks in favor of a power you can't use until you die.

There's GOT to be something else you can remove to fit in Revive if you feel like you need it that badly. Slash is an integral part of every Claws attack chain I have ever seen.

And yes, if you try to solo an AV, you WILL notice the fact that it's missing, because you won't get the resistance debuff, and your DPS will suffer for it.

I'm not sure what the damage is for scrappers, but it should be useful for filling out a ST attack chain while staying in theme if you're electric melee.

Nice catch. I didn't even notice, since there is another thread about the same thing on the first page here. I figured a couple different people had the same problem at the same time, which wouldn't be the first time that's happened.

Edit: The other thread is a necropost as well.

You're unbelievable.

I'll explain it as simply as I can.

If you assume that someone is a criminal based on the clothes they are wearing, you are judging them based on appearance, without knowing anything else about them.

If you assume that a woman has loose morals based on the size of her chest, you are judging her based on her appearance, without knowing anything else about her.

They are the exact same thing: Judging someone based on their appearance.

So, since they are the same thing, your stance is: It is okay to judge someone by their appearance, but it isn't okay to judge someone by their appearance.

I agree that you shouldn't assume a woman has loose morals because of her chest size. But it is just as wrong to assume someone is good or bad because of the clothing they are wearing. That's the point you seem to have completely missed.

He probably ragequit already, dude.

Going by the last line in his post, he seems to have the attitude of "How DARE this updater be slow!". Instant gratification and all.

If he actually checks back into this thread I'll be really surprised.

The forums are all the same now, European players and North American players use the same forums, so that wouldn't really affect anything.

Just wanted to touch on this part here.

The devs said power customization and alternate animations couldn't be done because they didn't have the manpower to do it, not because it wasn't possible. Their reason for not doing it before is because with the staff they had at the time, it would have taken up a LOT of time, and we'd probably be an issue or two behind where we are now.

Since then, they have hired more people, and the things that couldn't be done because they lacked the manpower were suddenly possible. We got power customization shortly afterward. I believe they actually hired a few animators specifically to work on it.

That said, there are a few things that won't happen because the devs won't do them. Like full AT and powerset respecs, for example.

Also, the Fitness pool is inherent now. There was much rejoicing (and a few inexplicable complaints). If you want to take advantage of it being an inherent power, you will have to respec (characters that already had it kept it as a pool choice, presumably to avoid breaking things)

He was responding to the OP stating that they had 7 shards already.

I presume the suggestion to run TFs is because it takes 8 shards to make an uncommon component, so I suppose those could be termed "uncommon shards".

Well, how many scientists do you know of that routinely hit up the treadmill? I can't imagine that Reed had much time to go to the gym with all the experiments and research he was doing.

They were drawn as regular people because, before they got their powers, they WERE regular people.

I'd be all for a boob slider that goes lower on the scale. Could be a game lore reasoning behind why it doesn't. I'd imagine to get a license to be a hero in this city you'd have to be 18 (or possibly have some way of proving that you're an immortal who looks like a 10 year old, but are actually centuries old)

I had a female character for a while who was on the completely unrealistic side of things. She was an avatar of the sun itself, and chose her physical form based on a poster in the window of a Victoria's Secret store. She proportioned herself like that because she thought that's what ALL humans looked like. She still doesn't understand the difference in gender, or why the ones with fur on their faces keep staring at her. (I only say "her" because the character is a female model, the character doesn't actually have a gender at all)

You have a different definition of what "physical appearance" means than, well, most of the rest of the world.

Physical appearance is defined as: What you see when you look at someone.

That includes eye color, hair color, skin tone, height, apparent weight, the size of a woman's breasts, and the clothes you are wearing.

Unless you walk around naked all the time, the clothes you have on are part of what people see when they look at you, therefore they are part of your physical appearance.

Saying that it is okay to make assumptions about people based on the clothes they wear, but it is not okay to make assumptions about them based on, in this instance, the size of a woman's breasts is being hypocritical, because in both cases you are making those assumptions based on their physical appearance.

If one is okay, they both have to be because they are the same thing. Conversely, if one is NOT okay, then neither is, for the same reason. You can't say one is okay and the other isn't.