ClawsandEffect

Yep, those would be the mechanics I was talking about. Especially the downing of multiple AVs at once. If you're going for the Gotta Keep Em Separated badge (required to master it) you have to beat both AVs within 10 seconds....on opposite sides of the map.

Look at how I worded it.

I said: "If you have a Mind Control character and want to make use of the sleep....don't slot Reactive in it."

I was referring to slotting Reactive in the character, not the power, as I am very well aware that it applies to all your powers.

On the subject of Siren's Song: Siren's Song exists in a set that can already stack a significant amount of -resistance. I don't see much need for even more of it.

Pretty simple solution suggests itself immediately:

If you have a Mind Control character and want to use Mezmerize for it's sleep effect.....don't slot Reactive in it

I really see no reason to exclude something from working in certain powers just because it isn't doing what you want, when the option is available to not use the thing that is not working how you want it to.

But not everyone shares your outlook on things.

A significant number of people are enjoying the mechanics of the trials, simply because they are NOT the same old tank and spank/click the glowie/rescue the hostage/deliver a pizza to Positron content we've had for 7 years.

If the end game content, including the trials, was nothing more than another "unkillable tank holds agro while the rest of the team whittles it down" fight, there would probably be a lot of people sorely disappointed that the much touted "end game" was exactly the same as the REST of the game.

Different is good. And in a game this old, different is necessary in order to retain people's attention.

Also of note is the old saying that any publicity is good publicity. Think on this: This thread, and others like it are serving a purpose. Whether the people talking about it love the content or despise it.....they are still talking about it either way.

YMMV.

I'm having a blast running them. But then again my main reason for playing the game for this long is because I enjoy just blowing $#&! up.

I'm not even really worried about how long it takes me to get the epic shinies, simply because I'm having fun playing them. I'll be a sad panda indeed when all my characters have got all their stuff, because then there will be less reason to do them (probably won't stop me though)

I took Void as well for concept reasons. He's a Broadsword/Dark Armor scrapper, it's the only Judgement that made any sense at all for him. It's actually kinda cool looking for him, looks like his Death Shroud just exploded.

It doesn't do overwhelming damage at tier 2, but it does enough to make me smile when I use it.

I took Ion with my main, who is a Claws/Regen scrapper. It was the closest to a concept fitting power that was available. Of course, my main is a cyborg too, so I can explain damn near anything as simply being an upgrade to his systems. That one feels a little broken, and way more powerful than it should be.

I've run them maybe 20-25 times across my entire account.

So far I have Judgement, Interface, and Lore unlocked on my main, and Judgement unlocked on my "second main".

My main is sitting at tier 2 Judgement and Interface, and tier 1 Lore. The other is sitting at tier 2 Judgement.

I also have a 3rd character I've been playing them with, who has otherwise been collecting dust for the past year or so. The trials give me something fun to do with him again (Fire/Fire blasters are incredibly fun on these trials)

I'm far from playing the trials obsessively, and I've managed to make decent progress at my own pace. If you take your time with them and do other stuff too, it really isn't that bad. I haven't seen any elitism as far as "You have to have tier X of power Y if you want to play with us", but maybe the server I'm on just doesn't have much of that attitude (Pinnacle, for the record)

Farmville is more hardcore than CoH is. At least based on the number of people who seemingly spend all their time playing it.

Cost differences aside, it's still faster to make them with threads. Especially if you end up getting some of the components you need as drops.

Why?

You can get Alpha slots with threads too.

Lunge, Impale, Ripper, and whatever single target blast you have from an APP/PPP.

Spines blows at single target.

Well, if you're Broadsword or Katana you won't have to worry as much about Parry/DA missing.

I've been converting them to threads immediately.

I may kick myself for that later, but currently they serve to get my slots unlocked and slotted slightly faster, so I'm okay with it.

In my experience....it HAS been highly casual friendly.

Example:

I logged in for less than an hour last night, and managed to find and run a BAF in that time before I logged out. It doesn't take hours to organize, it is not long enough that you have to set aside any time (outside your normal playtime) to do, and if you don't want to do it, you don't have to.

Sounds pretty casual to me.

The only part of the system that ISN'T casual friendly is trying to get all your Incarnate slots up to tier 4 on every character. And it isn't expected that everyone is going to do that anymore than it is expected that every player is going to outfit every single one of their characters with every purple IO set they can slot. Unless you are one of those people that believes the point of the IO system IS to purple out every single character, in which case you'd probably say that isn't casual friendly either.

They do.

It is set up that way intentionally so you can only get the 4, 5, or 6 slot bonuses one time, and one time only. On most sets, the 4 slot bonus is 15% accuracy ,and the 5 slot bonus is 10% recharge, which are the highest amount you can get of either of those bonuses.

However, since there are 6 pieces in the set, you can slot 3 into one power, and 3 into another power to get the bonus for slotting 3 of them twice.

Yeah, I kinda got that impression too.

The OP read very much to me as essentially saying "Why does everything suck but Martial Arts?"

Understandably, that is going to get people a little defensive of their favorite set, and more inclined to point out that MA isn't the end all-be all the OP is painting it as.

I don't have anything against Martial Arts, though I used to. I used to detest the fact that it was all kicks, and Martial Arts is much more than just a bunch of flashy kicks. Now that it has the option of some punching attacks it's a little better in my eyes, but it's still kinda meh to me.

My personal favorites are Claws and Broadsword, which both have their flaws. But I like them.

The OP would have gotten less friction if he had phrased his post more along the lines of "I really like Martial Arts, but I can't seem to get into the other sets. What am I missing?"

Yeah, that kind threw me for a loop there. As much as you know about the game you should have known that, so you saying that was a little weird.

No, it doesn't.

You can't even slot it in Sprint.

It's because the devs don't want people getting absurd amounts of defense for only a few slots expended via having the veteran reward prestige sprints.

20 points of KB protection for zero slot expenditure would be a little broken too. "Yay, my controller has more KB protection than a tank!"

You're thinking of Lambda, not the BAF. BAF requires no grenades of any kind.