ClawsandEffect

It was a while ago. The lower character invited the higher.

They may have changed it since then, it's been quite a while since I've done one, but I distinctly remember having to gain those levels again and re-train them.

Bill's just been snarkier of late, he's been like that to everyone that I've seen for at least a few weeks now. I'm not going to attempt to explain why, because I don't know him personally, and it isn't really any of my business anyway.

I doubt he meant anything personal by it.

Yes, I'd say you misunderstood.

In reading the thread, I didn't see anyone being rude about their disagreement.

One thing you have to understand, which you wouldn't have known since you just joined, is that many of your suggestions have been suggested, hashed, rehashed, dug up, rehashed again, and finally re-buried in a shallow grave.

Your vehicles suggestion in particular has been beaten to death many times, so many times in fact that a stock response exists for it.

PvP in the open world is a very touchy subject as well. I can't speak for everyone on it, but I personally do NOT want to be followed around by some d-bag that is spamming "duel me" in every channel he thinks I might hear him in. And it will happen.

The seeming rudeness you were perceiving is a result of the fact that you brought up a few things that the regulars in this section are VERY tired of seeing brought up over and over. It wasn't anything in particular you said, just that you brought up some extremely common things.

I don't have a build handy to add to this at the moment, but I wanted to touch on this here.

A lot of times, those threads asking for a build go ignored because, as a general rule, people don't like being asked to do all the work for someone else. When someone posts saying "I need an awesome Elec/Shield build" and very little else, I tend to ignore it myself.

However, when someone says: "Here's my Elec/Shield build, did I goof somewhere, and if so, what can I do to improve it?" and posts the build they are asking about along with it, I will almost always chime in with whatever helpful advice I may have, because that person has shown that they aren't just asking someone to do everything for them.

It also shows that the person asking might have a clue about WHY you made certain choices with the build. A lot of people asking for a build will just copy the build exactly in game, without having the faintest idea how and why that build is effective.

All that aside, I think that a place like this to compile builds is a good idea, especially if we can get this thread stickied. It will save a lot of trouble for people who are just looking for ideas about how to go about building their character. I don't think it will stop the "Give me an awesome build!" threads, but it might cut down on them a bit.

I'll try to actually add something to the thread when I get home from work (no Mid's on the work computer)

These are both solid chains. FU-Focus-Slash is only going to happen with obscene levels of recharge, so if you don't want to spend a crap ton on the build, go with the second one and you will be just fine.

As far as secondaries go, things with damage auras get good mileage out of Claws, due to Follow Up being stackable and adding a decent amount of damage to the aura.

Proccing out Follow Up, Focus, and Slash isn't a bad idea. The Build Up procs will go off fairly often, as they will be in two of your most frequently used attacks.

I would frankenslot Follow Up with 3 Acc/Dam/Rech IOs, 2 pieces of Rectified Reticle, and the Build Up proc. I'd do Slash with whatever seems like a good idea and the Achille's Heel proc. I'd use 5 Decimation in Focus, including the proc, and maybe a Nucleolus HO if the damage isn't as good as you'd like.

From what I understand, Claws/Electric is a pretty solid combo. Add some defense to it and it gets even better. It has a damage aura, and a +recharge power to help with Follow Up stacking. I've never played one myself, but I've seen some builds that looked really good on paper.

That's 3 more than I have EVER gotten.

Granted, I don't PvP much anymore, but when I still did on a regular basis, I got squat.

We also only have half of it right now.

You didn't really expect to be as powerful as the game lore Incarnates with only half the slots open, didja?

Besides, the higher the tier, the more benefit of it ignores ED. The tier 2 has 1/3rd of the bonus ignoring it, tier 3 has half ignoring it, and tier 4 has 2/3rds ignoring it.

The way resistance enhancement works, that will net you an extra 14% or so of enhancement, which will add an amount of resistance depending on the base resistance of the power in question (which is different for various ATs, tanks have higher bases)

This could work for the Bruiser, the Oni, and the Demon. But it wouldn't do much good at all for the Commando, the Assault Bot, and the Lich.

The first 3 spend a significant amount of time in melee range of enemies. The other 3 (when they aren't bugged) prefer to stay at range, where a taunt aura would be useless.

Yeah, I'm sure people play hammered on all the servers, but Pinnacle's natives took the Drunk Server designation and ran with it.

Ironically, I'm still a Pinnacle native and almost never drink anymore....

If the customer were always right, this game would have died years ago.

The customer always being right would have meant the devs would have been obligated to implement every idiotic suggestion anyone ever made for the game.

The truth of the matter is: The customer is very frequently dead wrong.

What difference does your ability to solo make in a situation where you are NOT SOLOING?

When you are solo, you are just as tough as you ever were, because the base to-hit in the rest of the game has not changed (other than Praetorian DE mobs). The trials are the only place your survivability drops off, and you are with at LEAST a full team the whole time.

If you guys aren't seeking solo glory, then why are you so concerned about your melee ATs' ability to perform well on their own in circumstances where it is a given that you will not BE on your own?

You are still serving the same purpose you ever do on a team: You are giving the enemies something to shoot at in order to keep the heat off the squishier ATs. That's exactly why all brutes and tanks, and some scrappers have taunt auras.

The teamwork here is, other people are keeping you alive with their buffs so you can better keep them alive.

Really?

Being upset that you aren't just as survivable on the trials as you are in the rest of the game sure makes it seem that way.

If you are working with your league, you shouldn't be having any major issues staying alive on a melee character.

My Claws/Regen, who is sitting at 32% defense to S/L gets plenty of defense just by being in range of his teammates, and almost never dies on trials anymore. I very seldom even need to hit one of my heals. I monitor my defense so I know when I'm being debuffed, and it is pretty consistently over 70%. A character that is already softcapped should be consistently over 85% or so. I also ran my nearly softcapped BS/DA on them, and can't recall having to hit Dark Regeneration more than a few times across ALL my runs.

Either you've been doing the trials with crappy teams, or you're trying to do things on your own in the trials, that's the only explanation I can think of why you'd be encountering survivability problems.

In MY experience, I'm just not seeing the huge survivability gap some people here are noting. If anything, my scrappers and brutes are MORE survivable on the trials due to the buffs I'm getting from everyone else.

Pretty sure the rate you earn iXP is anticipating you converting some threads into XP.

If you end up with an odd number of threads each time, there's no real reason not to. Those 7 threads aren't going to do you much good on their own, so you might as well convert them to XP

C'mon Sharker, you know as well as I do that posting in an old thread will just get it locked for thread necromancy.

Honestly, it's been a while since I've seen this brought up, so even if there isn't a whole lot added to the idea there's nothing wrong with bringing it to people's attention again.

I don't really expect it to happen any time soon, if ever, but I actually don't have a problem with this idea.