ChristopherRobin
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A comic about a PUG would be hilarious.
My favorite part is Spikey Turtles head.
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Posted my reaction on DA... once I stopped laughing I noticed that both TLC's and Mae-Day's faces appear to be lit from the top left while Bayani's is lit from the right side and the left side of his face and neck are in shadow (his hair appears lit correctly though). There doesn't seem to be enough distance between Mae and Bayani that the same light striking her face wouldn't also be striking the top left side of his. Also he appears to be leaning back so at the very least I would think the left side of his head up by the temple should be lit and there should be more shadows on the right side slanting away and to the right (like under his lip and on his "camera right" shoulder).
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Quote:You should really read the post 2 up from yours.Originally Posted by The Lone Hero
I guess I didn't get anything. ^_^ And here I am, always looking for someone to give me free art. How about an art trade sometime? Ya know...once my scanner stops being mean to me. I think it's about time I get a new one.
But yeah if you don't get anything out of this and you want to do an art trade that's cool with me. It would be after I'm done with my paid commissions though.
Technically he has four claws.Quote:Originally Posted by Crestent
How about my character Devine/Divine Claws?
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...evineClaws.jpg
He has two claws and even has the plural of claw in his name.
But that aside his Raiden looking suit is wicked cool!
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Quote:I'll leave it open for now. Anyone that wants to, go ahead and post.Originally Posted by Terminal Velocity
Is the entering closed?
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Quote:I sent out notes but I guess I should've posted it too, I am taking a brief break to work on thisOriginally Posted by Terminal Velocity
Who won?
and another RL project that sprang up. I will pick the 2nd one and draw it up soon, thanks for the entries people.
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Ya done good Airhead, the message carries through loud and clear.
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Hey Spacenut, I am really sorry to hear about your dad's battle with cancer...
I've had to face disease in family members and friends far to often of late.
My sympathies to you and your family.
I'm already drawing something I hope will cheer him up.
Quick question though does he have a favorite character of his? And if so do you have any screenshots of him/her/it you can PM me?
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Quote:Originally Posted by Suichiro
Gaaaah, damn you CR. Now I gotta go think of something new.......
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Happy Uterine Expulsion Day Attache!
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Heya States, that's pretty awesome for high school art... got any more to show?
P.S. If it hasn't been said before, welcome to the best part of the forums.
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Johnnykat, you've been told several times now by several different people in several different ways.
It's demonstrably evident and you are not fooling anyone.
You know it, I know it and it's painfully obvious to everyone who's
bothered to read this far. Yet you still cannot say it.
You sir, have a problem.
Oh well, we tried. *shrug* I'm not going to be losing
any sleep over it and there are better uses for my time.
Quote:Originally Posted by SuichiroPS: needs moar ribbinz.
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Quote:Originally Posted by EnnVee
well. . . I have a character named Lycaony, she is a Council experiment gone wrong.
Bio - Lycaony, aka Ly is a Council experiment gone wrong, in an attempt to save a prized war wolf who was mortally wounded in battle, his soul was transfered to her body. After six months in stasis Ly was awoken by her captors, and she found herself to have a TAIL !! OMG A tail, are you serious????? She also found her shadow was that of the War Wolf ! She destroyed the council base in a fit of rage, killing everyone within the compound and is now in search of the monster who gave the order to do this to her. She now fights her inner rage, as she feels the call of the wolf from within, everyday will be an inner struggle to keep what she can of her humanity !
(two souls in one body, kinda creative)
Very cool concept Ennvee and I really like the look of her
too (two?) so here ya go, hope ya like it.
Ahhooooo!!! Click!
One down... one 2 go. If anyone else
has a ref they want to slip in here, do it quickly.
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Quote:Were you planning to put up a pic Vyx or should I... guess?Originally Posted by StormVyxen
I thought the name Laser Pointer was much more inventive for my Dual Pistols chick than the Two Whatever names that were bound to pop up. So Laser Pointer is a sassy redhead who really does wield two Laser Pointers (Pistols, that is) for her weapons of choice.
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Yeah Tom Welling that's his name...
was I right? What do I win?
The lizard looks fine to me DD. But hey if a sketched ref of the
lizard head option in the CC would help, I can whip one up quick.
Here ya go.
(click click grrrawwrrrrr!)
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Haha ok I would have thought there would be tons of them with dual wielding and dual pistols (i.e. Jenny Two Shot is one of mine) sets around but allow me to broaden the category... anything character based around two of something will do. Two swords, two guns, two vet pets, whatever... be creative. (I may live to regret that last line)
P.S. No two arms or two legs etc. etc. don't count.
Quote:Thanks Kheldarn... I know long way to go to forum cartel.Originally Posted by Kheldarn
Congratulations on 2k!!
And nope. No numbered characters. Ah well.
Bayani do you have a hero called Two Gun Kid or were you just putting it up to give people ideas?Quote:Originally Posted by Bayani
Sure two zero's works.Quote:Originally Posted by The Lone Hero
:/ Closest I have is Rider 00 saddly.
OH!
Does it count if he has two 0's in his name?
Lol you had me going for a sec. Twofur would be a hilarious name for a catgurl though.Quote:Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
Hows about a catgirl name Twofur?
Kidding, I don't have any catgirls.
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So yeah I just broke 2,000 posts (yay me!) and I was thinking some artz is in order!
If you have a character with the word two or the number 2 in his/her/its name post it up.
The "two" I like best get a free sketch!
Sidenote: I do have a lot on my plate at the moment so they will probably be quick sketches but ya never know...
so if you have a character with a clever use of two or 2 too, post em up!
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@Crestent: Apologies for the slight thread detour man.
@DJ1: Briefly, no I don't go looking for stuff like that. I let my eyes wander over an image and things just pop out at me, it's harder to spot things
wrong in my own work though (I still do sometimes) and if there is text, I read it and misspelled words will sound wrong in my head lol.
That's the best way I can think to describe it. P.S. Don't knock stick figures... I got my start drawing stick figure ninjas as a kid.
They're "teh awesomez."
We now return you to our regularly scheduled "moar artz nao!" already in progress.
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Quote:Heh, I'm gonna have to call him that next time we're talking on Skype.Originally Posted by Frost
Well all the other ones ended in y!
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Oh fudge not another one.
Well sorry to see you go Jk, despite the occasional difference of opinion, you were clearly a worthy competitor.
I'm glad to see it is for a positive reason though. Good luck on your new endeavor.
Well this means we are down to 5 artists now and 5 more months left to duke it out.
Hey on a positive note... no more double elimination months.
Final 5 y'all wohoo!
P.S. If the FArt Mistress has no objections I'm going with my original post as my theme for the month.
Don't worry I'll make sure and cover the naughty bits... just barely.
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Quote:Originally Posted by VexXxa
And that is where the problem lies! A big misunderstanding because a word should have been added to make the sentence less likely to be misunderstood.
Take out "(despite him using a female as his current avatar BW is definitely a he btw... check out his livestream here)" and read the sentence without it..."@Durakken I agree with BW and Johnnykat in that your comments should be about the art,..."
Now, keep the sentence as it was written and add the word "with" after the second parenthesis..."@Durakken I agree with BW (despite him using a female as his current avatar BW is definitely a he btw... check out his livestream here) and WITH Johnnykat in that your comments should be about the art,..."
By adding the word "with" before Johnnykat's name, it makes the sentence very clear that the comment is still being directed to Durakken and not at Johnnykat.
It is just a simple misunderstanding. Now put your pistols away and go back to your corrals.
Thanks for trying to clarify if for him VexXxa (you are the 4th person to make the effort).
I appreciate what you're saying but no that word should not be added at all.
Using "with" twice is literally redundant. Think about if you were
agreeing with 10 people... would you say the word "with" 10x?
"I agree with BW and with Jonnykat"
Is an unnecessary redundancy.
"I agree with BW and Johnnykat"
Is the correct usage and reads just fine.
What makes it abundantly clear the statement is directed at Durakken
is the fact that I started it with the words "@Durakken"...
...which is of course part of what he chose to cut out when he truncated my post.
He actually caused his own misunderstanding of my words here and honestly he is the only one not getting it.
P.S. I've been cooped up in mah corralz like all day n' stuffz drawin' and workin' on custom computers. I'z not ready to go back in!
But I am ready to leave this thread (I hear LJ is having a contest) lol someone PM me when there's actually some art that needs critiquifyin. ™
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Quote:Johnnykat, it's been pointed out to you now by three different people how you are in the wrong here but you seem to have difficulty thinking that's possible... the more you keep challenging it the sillier you will feel when you finally see it. Work from the premise that you have made a mistake and go read it again.Originally Posted by Johnnykat
You state my name and then comment - how is this misunderstood? I truncated the quote because this is my response about what you stated directed at me - hence it was superflous and tldr to add the rest. Now, if you are saying "Johnnykat, I agree with you in that Durakken's comments should be about...". But that is not how it read to me.
I didn't "mean something else" I meant it exactly as I said it. You are just misreading or misunderstanding me (or both) is all.Quote:Originally Posted by JohnnykatIf you meant something else, my apologies.
Fair enough, apology accepted.
Once again just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there.Quote:Originally Posted by JohnnykatI can relate to rebufing misinformation and absurd statements - nothing in my commentary was either.
Man you really need to start reading what I say twice. Simpler terms then for the sake of clarity.Quote:Originally Posted by JohnnykatTo imply my argument that art education should be considered in order to help provide a proper critique as absurd...is in my opinion insulting to not just myself, but to pretty much every art major out there.
Should art education be considered. Yes of course, I said I'd listen to both opinions and decide for myself.
Should the opinion of someone be automatically considered superlative over joe-average (I don't care for that term {what defines average in terms of artistic savvy anyway?}
I'm just replying with it because you used it) just because they have some formal training the other lacks. No
Do you get to make that call? No, that is up to the individual artist.
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Quote:Ugh.Originally Posted by Johnnykat
Seriously CR, what is your obsession with me? First of all, I never said anything about me being an editor, about BW having to start over, etc. This was all Durraken's commentary. I said Durakken commenting from the perspective of an editor is not what a critique should be about - ie., I am saying that portion is baseless, moot...too. He (Durakken) if he wants his criticism to be constructive, should base it on providing points for improvements, not to throw out random hypothetical situations about if he/she were an editor blah blah blah.
Seriously Jk read my post again.
If it helps you ignore the part in parenthesis and you should see your mistake. Also you conveniently chopped off the part where I said @Durakken.
Of course I know it wasn't you saying that. The part where I'm talking @ you starts with @Jk. This whole paragraph of yours was unnecessary
if you had paid attention to what I actually said instead of jumping to the silly conclusion that I have some obsession with you.
Despite what you may think Jk it's likely much less than 1% of my over 2,000 posts in these last 10 months have
had anything to do with you. A fraction of a percent is hardly an obsession... it's more like a footnote.
If you haven't realized it yet I rebut lots of misinformation and absurd statements that catch my attention... not just yours.
P.S. in case you missed it I agreed with you in that first paragraph of mine.
I don't take it as demeaning but it's not required either.Quote:Originally Posted by JohnnykatKeep in mind, I completely agree with this is a video game forum and the reality of requiring someone to have a true art degree to give a true art critique is pretty flimsy. However, the obvious fact (this thread as a case in point) there are a few people here that take this EXTREMELY serious, some level of training in anatomy, color theory, perspective, historical knowledge of the genre, as well as simple personal interest should be considered over the average-joe opinion. That's not to be demeaning, but there are schools and others forms of education for this subject for a reason.
If you are one of the people that take it EXTREMELY serious that is fine but my point that you are not speaking on a professional forum that requires it still stands. VexXxa once pointed out several flaws in my horse anatomy, she was right and I thanked her for it... I didn't ask her credentials.
As for whether an artist should consider your opinion superlative to joe-average I would say is for the individual artist to decide, not you.
I personally would listen to both and decide for myself what changes are needed... having formal training does not make one immune to error.
Yes, yes, yes, no and no. I did consider all of those things you said and mentioned that there are people who have aberrant finger lengths and other possible scenarios that could produce this effect as well in the post. But, it if it is a stylistic choice such as having extremely long fingers then both hands need to have it... when both hands are have misshapen fingers but the mishaps on the right hand don't match the mishaps on the left hand it's just wrong. I mentioned all of this... did you even bother to look at it before responding???Quote:Originally Posted by JohnnykatSo, for example, just because someone feels a finger is too long or too short and should be changed. Sure, this is a simple observation and quite possibly that is all that needs to be said. However, have you considered style?...have you considered composition?...have you considered alternative reasons for a specific part of anatomy to be sized differently then another - there could be a social commentary being made here or simply it's just a caricature and that part of the anatomy was intended to be non-photo realistically proportioned. I am just saying, there are levels to a criticism that (if you are formally educated) would be considered before throwing out obvious comparisons to simple photo-realistic proportion.
Thank you Johnnykat. Kudos to you as well as it sounds like something good is happening in your career.Quote:Originally Posted by JohnnykatSo, if you have people PM'ing you about proper proportions CR - cool, good for you at gaining some level of recognition on the boards! If your experiences have been different then mine in terms of the negative feedback about overly critical responses - again, kudos to you.
You presume them to all be baseless and therein I think lies our difference of opinion.Quote:Originally Posted by JohnnykatI would rather see one thread that borderlines trolling on this section then every other art thread being hit by baseless criticisms.
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Quote:Naah, it would've been over the top for me to have mentioned that him having a blue color swatch for the "retina" is wrongOriginally Posted by DonatoJames1
Dude you actually spellchecked him while critiqueing? Lol that's totally over the top.
because the retina is just light sensitive tissue on the inside of the eyeball. The part of the eye that actually contains color is called the iris.
Oh also he forgot to....
*runs out of thread before the villagers can grab their torches and pitchforks*
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Lol that's not helping buddy.
I'll try and keep it on track but realistically I will continue to help people when I can in their own threads,
in mine, or through PM's/Notes regardless of the health of this thread.
So... ummm... dibs on 15 pagez n' stuffz.
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@Durakken I agree with BW (despite him using a female as his current avatar BW is definitely a he btw... check out his livestream here) and Johnnykat in that your comments should be about the art, imagining yourself as an editor rejecting his piece and telling him to start over or not be hired has nothing to do with constructive criticism and does not help him improve the piece at all. It's moot speculation.
@Jk The above agreeing with you aside, while you could make a true statement that someone needs to have a degree before you will take any critique they give seriously, suggesting that they need "a formal education in some manner of "real" art criticism" to give critique in a non-professional capacity on a videogame forum somewhere is absurd.
This is not a professional art forum, simply conveying what is wrong in an easily understood manner so the artist can fix it and learn from their mistakes is often all that is wanted/needed. I just told Crestent in regards to his ref sheet that the ring finger of the camera right hand is too short and that it should be longer than the index but shorter than the middle finger... it didn't require two degrees and a design shop to do it.
Also...Quote:while this may have been your experience here,Originally Posted by Johnnykat........This last year or so saw some really critical stuff that I know some liked, but a lot were turned off by it........
mine has been exactly the opposite.
A great many people have expressed how much they liked it publicly and in PM's while only a small minority were turned off.
You'll notice there is no shortage of new requests for con/crit both here and on forumites DA pages and I get more requests in PM's/Notes than I can reasonably respond to (I've written up 6 in the just the last few days alone, some are just bullet lists of what's amiss and some full length pro's, con's, first impressions, redlines and recommendations for what the artist should work on going forward) not to mention this thread itself etc etc.
People who are interested in knowing their mistakes and improving their skills, I think, will continue to ask for critique where ever they can get it... pro, amateur or otherwise.
P.S. @Battlewraith: While I understand your frustration here man, speculation on someones physicalQuote:Originally Posted by FrozenDeath
Do you have a degenerative tissue disorder or something?
health or disease is no better than him telling you to start over or not be hired for a position you're not applying for.
It's superfluous at best... what say we all try and keep the focus on what is actually being said here about art and stuff relating to critique.