Cherry Cupcakes

Originally Posted by SteelDominator

Awesome...i'll lead the range(blaster) team. Who is leading the Raid?

Originally Posted by Steel_Brigade

U done now, hun?

Originally Posted by CriticalKat

Apparently there must be some bad history or vibes between people because I am reading these posts and not seeing anything that warrants the aggression and animosity being thrown back and forth. :-(

Originally Posted by CriticalKat

Insulting was not my intention. Which is why I said the biggest factor I felt for the reason it failed was due to the lag / bind issues. I also felt at the time that the taunt leaders lack of either experience or organizational skills was a huge contributing factor. Your nervousness was another factor. When I made my post I didn't know what your nervousness stemmed from (which you just explained) but it was indeed a contributing factor.

You basically just reiterated my point though. There have been several raids where people were doing their own thing, aggro might have turned chaotic ect but the raids were still completed and successful. That reiterates the fact that under the right circumstances (leadership, lack of lag etc) it can and should succeed regardless of what a few people are doing or not doing on their own accord.

Originally Posted by Steel_Brigade

Kat's got a point about leadership and it's important that a leader is well organized, prepared and delegates as appropriate. We fail sometimes and we learn from it - that's all part of the fun. At least, that's what i've enjoyed anytime a raid didn't go smoothly. It happens.

And it's ok.

_Game On!

Originally Posted by Steel_Brigade

A fair assumption, Cherry. But if we are going to base this zones' trial event on risk vs reward assumptions then consider that it's a larger event than other trials. It may be safe to factor that into our assumptions about why they awarded as many merits. I have never read anything from BaB suggesting that it should be MORE difficult to complete. Just that we aren't raiding as intended. It has been implied (or assumed) that the trial is actually easier to approach than we've perceived it to be with various strategies. Perhaps the trial should be worth more merits than currently awarded. When you think of it that way it adds some perspective.

What if we haven't? And is the statement threatening the norm somehow? Many are finding new ways to approach hamidon by tweaking existing strategies and completion times are shorter and shorter. Have you ever done something new - like reading and writing and at first it seemed hard to do. But as you mastered language arts and applied it - soon it became second nature. It became easier and easier. We're all learning and growing - but you're welcome to discount the statement as you wish.



I'd scratch my head to if I looked at something I didn't understand. Some raids in other formats have taken days and even weeks to plan just the same. It's a matter of getting people together to lead certain positions - people that you know will do a good job. And you want to ensure you have enough time outside of RL to communicate an approach they aren't used to. When you try to belittle the set up you fail to consider those important things. You're experienced, right? Ok, then let's act like it.



Many of us have done (on the fly) raids - it's not a new concept as you know. I support the effort of anyone willing to step up to bring the events forward in the community. Also, something you should know by now because I have support you several times. There is no "HAMI CODE' and you're being silly about my statements in reply to cobalt. Why is that? I challenge a statement he made - that's all it was and was nothing personal. So stop it!

And finally, I made no excuse for not running hamidon raids anymore. It's a pretty weak thing to ride on so you can let that go now. When i'm ready and my schedule allows i'll probably do some - maybe soon.

The Gulliver's Reign concept was a prototype strategy to build around - it allowed us to stand and draw the mito focus in various directions. The idea was to tweek it until we were able to approach hamidon with 14 people in the end. As with anything - you start with the larger idea and chip away at it until you only have what works. It was meant to incorporate the statement by devs that no set AT was necessary during hamidon raids. Unfortunately, for reasons i've mentioned (and reasons you are not privy to) I discontinued with the intention of getting back to it.

As C.L. pointed out (though, his date was off) I posted in my own forums for a Jan 23, 2010 raid. Tons of nonsense has happened since then and those plans changed. So, I will do them again - in my own time (Not yours) as my other priorities permit.

_Now relax.

Originally Posted by CriticalKat

NCsoft continuously says it has not been cracked. In fact as recently as yesterday afternoon. As far as what has been accomplished being off his radar, that was achieved the very first successful raid of the newer hami encounter.

There have been dozens of different ways to do tested, and several successful. I am quite sure there are hundreds of others things that have still yet to be tested and probably dozens more ways that will be successful.

I can remember on test before a raid was ever successful hour after hour was spent trying all kinds of seemingly retarded things to break the code. Stacking vengence, doing group tp mito strikes, sniping at range, heal blankets and my all time personal favorite mass caging spikes.


I don't need to know the whole story to know that raid could have succeeded with the exact same participants in zone doing exactly what they were doing if the leadership had more experience and the lag / connection problems cherry was encountering wasn't happening. Hell CHERRY could have made that raid succeed that night herself had those 2 situations been different.

The continuous desire to blame a few people for different raids failing (not talking specifically about cherry's, i'm talking about across the board) rather than taking responsibility as leaders that perhaps we could have done a better job is ridiculous. If its the few peoples fault doing their own thing then explain to me why so many are successful while those same or different people do their own thing during raids ran by different leadership?

Originally Posted by Crusherina

Due to his commitment towards work/school and the state of the Brigade was rolling into, I'm not surprised that his focus was elsewhere than leading a raid. Point being, Steel will not go out with an unprepared team just to satisfy you or others. Could you or anyone else not have done something similar dealing with "Gulliver's Reign"? I had believed that raids cold be led by anyone and not by a specific group or person. Someone could had stepped up and tried it for themselves, not rely on Steel only to do so.

Originally Posted by GPBunny

Just want to know, are we getting our time credited back to our subscription?

Originally Posted by prvtslacker

Guess that means I will play Starcraft ][ thursday.

Looks like a server prep for GoRo. The other large MMO did a 24 down time last week in prep for there new expansion.

Originally Posted by CriticalKat

I predict this thread is going to deserve a 5 star rating, thus I already got my vote in!

Originally Posted by Dollymistress

NoooooOOooooo not the Drama Cannons!

My sig is now meaningless I say, meaningless!


Oh well. Hmm guess I can go back to my Tiger Woods Going Rogue sig, eh?

Originally Posted by Amygdala

With a different crew.

Originally Posted by neuronia

it's on like donkey kong!
:d

Originally Posted by Myrmydon

Having people like you giving leading raids a shot is the primary reason I said we should replace the "lead crew" in the first place.