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If it's an AT which is made up of currently existing sets with their own inherent and mods (eg an Assault/Pets AT) 400 points. The bulk of the work is done in terms of artwork & FX, some powers may need to be tweaked (like the Pet Attacks most likely). Any new sets added specifically for this new AT (say you decided to add Whip Assault at the same time) would be the standard 800 on top of that (but would also apply to Domis)

If it's a new EAT 1600, if we're talking a new EAT which comes in multiple flavours this seems fair for the lot. In real terms that's 20 quid.

You realise you're just shouting loudly into the eye of the storm, right? It's not going to notice.

An Assault / Pets AT or EAT would be fun. I'm certainly hoping that Paragon Studios have a couple of ideas for EATs on the way.

Well obviously slotting them for damage is going to double their damage output. They aren't the most damaging anyway but Dark/Time kinda needs every bit it can (at least mine currently does) and once summoned it's basically free damage so I'd never drop them.

What is the alternative power you're thinking of picking up instead?

*ARF-ARF-ARF-ARF* To expand on *ARF-ARF-ARF* this I would also *ARF-ARF-ARF-ARF-ARF-ARF* like this bloody *ARF-ARF* Umbral Beast *ARF-ARF-ARF* to shut up *ARF-ARF-ARF* please.

It seems to decide it's annoyed by something and goes into 30 seconds of constant yapping. Very, very distracting indeed.

Only if you take Prometheus to dinner befo...

No, stop. I won't stoop to such cheap, tawdry jokes.

It will check everyone in the sleep patch when dropped and every 10 seconds afterwards (because they count as aura powers)

Whereas with something like Jolting Chain or Cages it will check everyone hit by the chain / cage, which is why they can be really nice in those two powers (assuming you've got the time to spam them a bit).

I had one the same last week running a DfB

"Forgive me for not attacking. I'm a pacifist ((that is I am roleplaying one))"

Said as he's standing there helping my Fire/Dark domi who is blasting things with toxic smog and setting them on fire. I really was tempted to ask him, in character, if he felt that was appropriate for a self-declared pacifist.

The disadvantage is no fancy Set Bonuses of note really compared to the expensive ones (namely Defense or Recharge bonuses).

There's absolutely no reason not to keep them, although usually I try to frankenslot, by taking the most appealing parts of multiple cheap sets in order to max out the enhancement values which are of most use to me (typically Damage and Accuracy for pets, with some End in some cases)

Unknown, in answer to your bug question.

I have mine slotted with a Store Bought Lockdown and when I drop it I get loads of electricity cages alright, but it's hard to know quite what it is doing and if that is expected behaviour.

They do indeed, but usually to less people. They've a 10 person limit as oppose to Fireballs 16 and cones are generally more fiddly to aim compared to AOEs. Bile Spray also has a really annoying animation (2.67 seconds compared to Fireballs 1)

Stone is my favourite APP overall, if you can bear the look of the armour. Fissure looks cool and hits reasonably hard (and is an AOE) and has a chance to stun and a chance to knockdown. So it takes Forced Feedback procs.

Seismic Smash is just win, long recharging but very quick animating which hits like a truck and can hold a boss immediately. The Def armour will stack with Fade nicely and Earths Embrace will complement Soul Absorption (because Regen is based off your current max hp, not your base, unlike Heals).

The downside is the look of armour and, perhaps, the fact it's melee orientated (depending on your playstyle)

You forgot the Trap of the Hunter : Chance for Lethal, the Positrons Blast : Chance for Energy and the Energy Manipulator : Chance for Stun ones.



Procs aren't a great idea in Static. They'll wake things up and the PPM procs in a pulsing AOE are uncertain in terms of how much they'd fire. Theoretically it shouldn't be very frequent at all, but it's rather uncertain until the Devs explain the exact formuale for these new procs.

I'd stick it into either your single target Hold or Seismic Smash (if you're taking it) personally.

Sorry, it is indeed. I managed to get confused between the start of my post and the end (where I actually referenced it).

All debate is good debate and everyone gets things wrong occasionally

Things change so much and there are so many weird, edge-case powers which act strangely with procs that it's easy to get mixed up on how one works in a certain power now (look at the Carrion Creepers debates for one, and I'm still trying to figure out how PPM Lockdowns work in Field powers like Shadow Field and Time Distortion).

I think the point was if you have to look to powers like Soul Extraction, Gang War or Tornado to slot the set into to get the most bang for it then as a set intended for the Mastermind pets it's a bit of a failure, since not every set has a Soul Extraction or Tornado handy for it.

And Tornado is generally a poor place to stick a proc anyway due to the nature of how the proc fires coupled with the knockback (which Masterminds are poorly equipped to counter)

They should probably have done something interesting like reduce and spread the recharge into the other 4 procs and give it two procs, the Defense one and another which procs on hit, like a toned down damage proc or a chance to heal proc.

Do you have links to those board posts which mention this? Do they mention Synaptic Confusion specifically?

There used to be issues with chained Pseudopets (pseudopets spawned by pseudopets) not inheriting their set Enhancements correctly as Alef says, but they've been fixed for a long time now (the fix was back in i11 or i12 or so and predates Electrical Control, it was mainly done to fix the Electric Melee chain and Creepers if I remember rightly).

If you're an oasis-owner then this is a prudent move

Welcome back cloven-hoofed one.

This is true, and the Chance to Hold is one I like to slot here as it gives 2 extra chances to go off at the start to help lock down troublesome bosses.

Damage ones are dirt in it though and not worth it IMO.

I thought people were exaggerating until I got mine.

I don't know who in the art department thought making "Arf-arf-arf" go off every 5 seconds when idle was a good idea.

Which proc? The purple confuse? I'm pretty sure it will trigger off the chains happily, I can't see why it wouldn't (Devestation certainly does in Jolting). I haven't gotten high enough myself with my Elec/NRG domi to use the Purple proc there but I've never seen anyone mention it not working as expected.

In Chain powers the rule of thumb is that offense procs (ones which damage, mez or debuff the enemy hit) should proc down the chain* but ones that normally buff you (Chance for Recharge or Chance for Heal) will only work off the initial target and aren't really worth it.

*Note that it only works if the chaining effect also has the effect which the proc relates to. For example in Jolting Chain only the initial blast does -End, not the jumping ones. Thus in Jolting Devestation and the purple will happily chain, because the Chain powers accept Ranged Damage set IOs as well, but the Energy Manipulation : Chance for Stun won't because the chains don't do -End and thus are unaffected by End Mod set IOs.

Since in Synaptic the chain confuses do accept and benefit from Confuse Set IOs Contagious should happily propagate down to the chains as well.

Edit : Also you talking about this combo has got me thinking about trying it. I've already got a pair of Dark alts (Dark/Time controller and Fire/Dark Domi) and an Elec Domi running about, but with the changes to Dark Affinity and thinking about how well Fluffy will complement the Gremlins I really want to try this combo too now. And as you say the Earth APP really suits it, Fissure and Seismic are great and the Earth Armour & Earths Embrace combined with Fade and Soul Absorbion would make you pretty darn durable.

Altisis is a curse.

Adding Recharge to summon powers I've always found to be pretty situational bordering on useless since the pets Recharge change. Most of the time if a pet dies the power is ready up anyway, without needing Recharge to be slotted at all. Mind you I take the busy secondaries and thus always have Haste as well.

Your milage may vary, but calling people silly for having a different opinion to yours due to their own experiences is somewhat myopic.

Strange. doesn't happen on my Dark/Time, nor have I seen other people report it at all.

Very odd

There were a few suggestions knocking about before you could make Villain ATs in Paragon and Hero ones in the Rogue Isles, someone mocked up a few which were quite interesting.

One was a Melee primary / Pets secondary, with the Pets secondary attacks being replaced by some armours. They had a different inherent rather than Supremacy & bodyguard and different stats than a Mastermind (more HP I think). I think the other one I saw was a Support / Assault of some sort who came with some sort of "Powerboost fury" or something.

They'd be a pain to balance though, and my gut says if it was to happen it'd probably be an EAT, as oppose to trying to balance an entire new AT and proliferate a current ATs sets across to it in some way.