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On the 5th. I really don't get why people like them so much. They're rebadged Council (or visa versa) and The Council are pretty average in most respects.

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They're god damn Nazis, man. Like the god damn Batman. Death metal skulls, awesome names. Who doesn't like beating up Nazis?

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I'd like them more if they used the dialogue from Michell and Webbs "Are we the baddies" sketch.

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Defiant is having Croatoa GMs on it, Union has (no wait, was) under Rikti invasion. No devs or mods seen yet.

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The festivities will be more fun than you can shake a stick at


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Surely there has got to be more. I've had great fun shaking my stick - far more fun than a simple rehash of reheated past-event leftovers.

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do not want

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Necro wins!

On the 5th. I really don't get why people like them so much. They're rebadged Council (or visa versa) and The Council are pretty average in most respects.

So has the Coming Storm been rerouted by a rogue high pressure and is now vanishing off out to sea over the horizon leaving a lot of bemused people wondering what all the fuss was about?

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The festivities will be more fun than you can shake a stick at


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Surely there has got to be more. I've had great fun shaking my stick - far more fun than a simple rehash of reheated past-event leftovers.

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Ack, my brain!!

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Have faith in the Devs for a change guys.

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I had faith once. The Devs rained on it.

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Call me an optimist, but I'm not there yet.




Yet.

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I am optimistic that there'll be more added.

Simply because no sane individual would continuely Big Up i15 as a huge content issue and then just add that lot.

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So what does this mega event actually consist of?

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EVERYTHING!!!!!

(where everything = any random event over the last 5 years plus some AVs popping into existence for no good reason so it seems)

Poor headless Paragon. Running around squacking but with no real idea where it's supposed to be going.

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The fact that there are people in Atlas Park means pretty much naff-all,
So use /search and pick those who say PuG team in comment box

since the vast majority of them are farmers or PLers, and they have no interest in me as a team member,I have every interest if you will benefit my farm, if you are an emp with perma Ab i'm not going to say no, it's not a farm the 1st time round the map you know

because I'm all about the story. How does having all of these farmers/PLers in the zone advantage me? The story doesn't change after the 1st time you do it, tbh i hate pve, why do you want to run around a small map looking for a glowie that no one can find the way to for a miniscule amount of xp.

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or am i missing something else ?

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You might be tired of the PvE game. That's fine.

But give newbies the same chance to experience it by removing the Spam from Atlas. I don't care if you spend 20 hours a day farming, do it somewhere removed from the starting zone as all it gives is a really bad impression to new people.

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Looks... like an OK Issue, then.

Adding an SF/TF is never a bad thing. New things to play with in the character creation/editing is always welcome. But beyond that... well let's best not complain too much, really?

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Not sure anyone's complaining as such, and individually each item's fine, but in terms of quantity I can't describe that list as anything other than small. Even the individual items in there (5 mission TF/SFs) are on the decidedly Tom Cruise side of things...

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On the TF thing that is the way they tend to go now. 5 varied and long maps rather than 10 clone-maps with Kill Alls or whatever. So in terms of the lenght of the actual TFs I'm not that concerned.

It's the lack of anything else meaty really.

Erm, I thought it was going to be a huge content Issue?

Where's the rest? I hope they've more. Bit strange that their announcement of i15 would be so... weeney. (It's not small. It's just shy)

Happy birthday Damsel. Have a good one (you won't be able to move after that amount of cake).

Reasons excessive farming in the starting zones is bad :

1) Lowbies can't get a team the usual way (by shouting in Broadcast or leaving LFT flags up) in starting zones. Instead they are encouraged to join farms so they can learn the game by, erm, standing there while vets smash up level 54 Comms Officers. Their introduction to the game ends up being "Stand there and we'll do all the work". Do you honestly think that gives a good impression. I started a lowbie to try and play normal MA arcs to level up. Not a hope. This is the only issue I've seen where it is actually more difficult to start a new character than before.

2) New players gain 15 to 20 levels in an hour so you end up with a load of mid-20s n00bs who have no idea how to actually play, where to go (other than the MA), how to slot things etc. I've seen plenty of PLed newbies who simply didn't have a clue what their sets do.

3) New Players miss out on content like The Hollows (maybe not so bad actually ), Faultline, or the villain side arcs. Some of this stuff is excellent and is simply being missed.

4) Excessive Farming will be met by the Nerfbat of Damocles, impacting everyone who runs or creates MA missions whether its a Farm mission or not. History indicates the Nerfbat tends to be overzealous in its effectiveness (see Family Map, Merit Reward adjustments), presumably to completely discourage people from doing it. This means the whole point of i14 gets undermined and could end up gathering dust.

I'm not against all farming, been doing a bit myself and spending the tickets redside on Common Salvage Rolls and Bronze Reward rolls and sticking everything (well bar the mid 30s Recipies suitable for my Brute) into the Market for 5 inf. In terms of the markets MA Farming has been good for Recipes, but pretty dire for Salvage, even Common Salvage is silly expensive at the mo.

I am against all the farming spam in Atlas, it really creates a bad first impression of the game.

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just remove the fecking building from 'Lowbies Land'.

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Yes after all it's not like the lowbies go to PI or anything. Unless you want to block access based on level (really bad idea in my opinion) It doesn't matter were the building is.

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Actually it really does. Moving the broadcast spam to another zone at least means new people don't see it, but vets will know that if they want to PL themselves out of the low levels they can go elsewhere.

They've been hanging around for 2 weeks without activity now. Isn't it time the i14 Open Beta Forums were decoupled from the boards and let drift into oblivion.

Happy birthday Psy. Have a good un

SS isn't an option for me anyway, not a good look for a Zombie.

Plus Air Sup is too tempting to miss out on.

I'm level 29 now and planning to pick Taunt up at 30 anyway, it certainly can't hurt my aggro control (might hurt me of course)

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I'm trying to access the account server to change my credit card details but it just keeps timing out, has anuone else had this problem?

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Yep, even GhostRaptor

The new NCSoft EU site is useless franky and doesn't seem up to the job.

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What is this nonstop whinage about farming PL'ing?

"oohhh but a lvl1 boosted to 50 is a noob, he doesnt know the game"
Yeah right, lke this game is so freaking difficult. 90% of those 50's you will never meet, 8% you will have in party but never notice, 1% you will see but by the time you do, he's already veteran. Leaves u with 1% of 'noobies' to take care off... cry me a river.

"FARMING IS DOOOOOMMMMMM"
Replace Farming by anything and it already has been said.

"Devs should make farm channel - i hate spam!"
Ya, and if u cant whipe your own butt, they should do it for you? Thats a community issue, not a game issue.

The irony, they whine about the broadcast, but if u ask them with whom they party.. its their friends and SG. Then why on earth u even have broadcast enabled? Then turn it off if everything ouside SG/friends dont matter.

Like the defiant/union is that crowded u cant /ignore that handfull of lvl1's asking for a farm?

EU side is going more and more into a group of old grumpy men whining about every tiny aspect they can find. Sigh.

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And grumpy old men moaning about the other grumpy old men

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Imagine the recursion you could get if the new buildings were all present and functional on the various city-maps.

Start a Mayhem in Atlas, enter the MA building there, select a mission set in the Kings map, enter the MA there, select a....

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Error : StackOverflowException. Please reboot universe and start again.

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LVL 50 = FARM
< LVL 50 = PowerLevel.


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I'd love to know where this definition is actually written up. You're the only person I know of who adheres to this definition.

Personally I'd say PLing is a subset of Farming, it's farming for XP rather than other rewards.

And the nature of how this game works when you are "PLing" you are also indirectly farming for drops or tickets too. PLing is just farming XP, that's all.

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If they were against it, they'd say so in the EULA. "Farming is cheating", would be stated somewhere if they believed it.

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But they also are nuking every aspect of the MA to stop farming.

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No, they are nuking aspects of the MA to stop excessively easy farming. Which is a tad different.

The Devs seem to me to accept Farming will occur, but are dead set against mission set-ups which take it to extremes (Family Map, Dreck and the various things in the MA).

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Soooo.... From 11am to 12pm EST (that's 4pm to 5pm GMT or 5pm to 6pm BST - When most of us aren't back from work yet), we get to experience old content that we've all seen before and doesn't actually require much effort on the devs part other than flipping a toggle?

I'm soooooooooo impressed... Not.



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No FFM, from 11am to 12am. In other words from 11 in the morning until midnight. So 4pm to 5 in the morning if the same times are mapped to over here. Really they should have used better phrasing for that.

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*yawn* Need coffee...


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Yup

If its a day of Winter Hordes, Zombie Invasions, Rikti and christmas pressies I'll be pretty underwhelmed too.

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There is a downside to that method. When there is a lot of arcs, lets say 200. (there is already over 100 listed on the site) Anyone not hitting the site from a fast connection will get a blank page as it will time out. Ideally I would drop the pagination as it is extra code, but we have to think about people that access via dial up, slow broadband or even mobile broadband. We could up the number per page, but that just moves the problem on.

I am open to suggestions for throwing older arcs up the list. We are looking at a couple of options at the moment but can't decide how they would work or even if they would work.

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Stick a "Number of rows per page" setting for the user, that's what I usually do (I like 1000s, this makes clients sad so I default theirs to 25).

On the Arcs thing maybe some sort of Random Search button on the main page which gives you a few results completely randomly, maybe with an optional specified level range (like an I'm Bored button).

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other games can do similar things

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Theres no need to be condescending.

Even other sites such as Titan etc can link to this game and show info, so why it is so hard for the apparently skilled devs, I dont know.

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Maybe it's not a matter of how hard it is to code?

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If you level from 1-50 in MA, as many are now doing, you will invariably avoid many enemy types, situations and circumstances which will make you a better player and have a have a greater experience of the game. 1-50 will be faster, but more dull and less enriching in terms of both 'fun' and teaching one how to play their character.


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Yep, absolutely. After playing Darren Wades stupid, idiotic arc* last night too there's a hell of a lot to be said from playing the good stuff in the MA.

(*The only good thing about it was finding out my Brute can easily take out a spawn with a Purple +2 Boss and a +2 Boss level hero & assorted hangers-on, twice, without much trouble).

Claws for Brutes.

I love claws, I love the Fury mechanism. This would be lovely (but would probably mean I abandon two alts immediately)