Captain-Electric

Ending the game like the heroes started it--kicking some Rikti butt outta our dimension.

And I agree about a TonyV statue, but I think he should be holding a torch instead.

Positron and Zwillinger also have posts out there making cautionary statements about how soon the forums might go down (and I'm not going to go hunt those statements down because winning an Internet argument doesn't pay me any money whatsoever). Which really means that no one knew (or knows) what NCSoft would (or will) do next.

HEY, SURPRISE, PEOPLE!!! NCSOFT IS UNPREDICTABLE AND UNCOMMUNICATIVE!!!

Mercedes Lackey is a best-selling author who has marshaled her professional capital and business savvy as a resource to gain NCSoft's attention. It worked at least to the extent that people involved with the negotiations are still communicating with her.

I don't know her and I'm not her internet body guard; but early on I made a personal decision to do my meager part to spread news and help keep people motivated here on the main forums. I'm just one of a gazillion posters who are out to do the same, but many others are spending more time on the Titan Network now (can't blame them).

I don't want to sound offensive either, but I'll admit, I find it mildly irritating that people who have actually been around here the last three weeks are just now asking "who is this person?" I've also seen people ask who Brian Clayton is and I find it hard to believe that anyone who's actually been paying attention and/or keeping up with the real SaveCoH movement would be asking these questions now, this far into things.

I don't think them saying "hat" was a mistake at all.

They can't, unless they want to kiss all future employment opportunities in this industry goodbye. The fact is, devs THEMSELVES have pointed to Mercedes as the next best thing and the ONLY thing we've got in the way of news.

When things get tough you work with what you've got and hopefully learn to be grateful for it. And I'm grateful for Mercedes Lackey.

Lackey has also openly, publicly made statements about how devastating this has been for her and how her involvement has created more stress for her, not less; and yet she has continued to stay involved and go to bat for us. I don't personally know Mrs. Lackey, but when I see people slamming her for CONTINUING to do what other people in her shoes may have quit doing by now (feeding news to an ungrateful audience despite having Paragon's trust), it only makes me respect her more and more.

At least she has plenty of support on the Titan forums, where people are apparently not living under a rock for the past three weeks.

FPAEK!

Seriously though, YES. THIS.

I've been sort of selfishly playing on hidey-hole /hideall mode for the past week or so, because I love playing the game but couldn't get far enough away from all the negative discussions and friends egging me on to go join them in other games (though, oddly enough, it's allowed me to get to know some new friends who I ran into between missions, because I was able to give them my undivided attention).

Tomorrow I'll /unhideall and if anyone wants to just play some missions and have some fun and ditch the moping, I'm @Captain-Electric, at your service.

Edit: On virtue.

Yes I'm an "RPer" but since I pretty much just act like myself anyway, a goofball, it's not really much of a distinction.

Leandro, he's with the Titan Network now and a long-time trusted member of this community. Also in that same thread I just started trying to talk him into making it where we can see those slogans an the billboards within the game.

He said it might be possible and he'll look into it after some sleep.

Hey Leandro could you make it so when we log in we see these slogans all over the game's various billboards? Would be great for pics.

Posted to the main website just now:
http://na.cityofheroes.com/en/news/n...sunset_faq.php

When is City of Heroes closing?

The City of Heroes Freedom servers will shut off on November 30, 2012 at 12:00 AM PDT

Will I receive compensation for City of Heroes closing down?

We are processing refunds for unused game time hat may have been applied to your account.

Can I create a free account and play until the end of City of Heroes?

Unfortunately new account creation has been disabled.

Am I able to upgrade my account to VIP untilt he end of City of Heroes?

Upgrading to a VIP account has been disabled

Can I purchase Paragon Points?

Paragon Point acquisition has been disabled

Can I still use my existting Paragon Points to buy items in the Paragon Market?

Yes, you may still use any existing Paragon Points your account may have.

Will I receive a refund for game time I acquired through the Refer a Friend program or free time acquired via a retail copy of City of Heroes, City of Villains or City of Heroes: Going Rogue?

Unfortunately, we will only be issuing refunds to players who have outstanding purchased subscription balances or paragon points.

How do I get a refund for the unused portion of tiem from the game time card I applied to my City of Heroes account?

Please provide the following information when you contact support to make your refund request:

• Your first and last name
• Your NCsoft master account name
• The name of your City of Heroes game account that you applied your game time card to
• The 20 digit game time card you applied to your City of Heroes game account
• We will initiate automatic refunds on Wednesday, September 26, 2012 for those customers who previously paid for either a recurring subscription or purchased Paragon Points using either credit cards or PayPal™ as set forth below:

Outstanding subscription balances as of September 1, 2012 will receive a full refund to the payment method used for the original purchase
Customers who purchased Paragon Points after August 24, 2012 will receive a refund to the payment method used for the original Purchase
Allow 7-10 business days for the funds to post to your account
For customers who previously paid using Game Time Cards with outstanding subscription balances as of September 1, 2012, please contact support with your name, City of Heroes account name and phone number.

Once support contacts you, please supply them with this additional information to receive a wire transfer for the remaining balance:

• North America - Financial Institution, account number, routing number and the 20 digit game time card applied to said account
• United Kingdom - Sort Code, account number and the 20 digit game time card applied to said account
• European Union - International Bank Account Number (IBAN), Bank Information Code (BIC) and the 20 digit game time card applied to said account

Where do I request my refund of the unused portion of my game time card?

You will need to contact customer support and provide the necessary information requested. This Knowledge Base article should answer questions regarding how to contact support to provide that information.

What if I would rather receive a check for the amount of my refund?

We can only send a check to you for the amount of your refund if you live in the United States or the United Kingdom.

If you would like a check issued for the amount of your refund, and you live in the US or the UK, please contact support and provide the following information:

Please provide the following information when you contact support to make your refund request:

• Your first and last name
• Your NCsoft master account name
• The name of your City of Heroes game account that you applied your game time card to
• The 20 digit game time card you applied to your City of Heroes game account
• Your physical mailing address that the check should be sent to

When will I receive my refund after providing this information to support?

Once support has the requested information, you should receive your refund within 10 business days if done by wire transfer. If we are sending you a check, it will be mailed within 14 days of the information being provided.

What if that credit/debit card is cancelled or expired?

The card does not have to be active. The refund will be applied to the account tied to the expired/cancelled card.

How do I get a refund for an unused City of Heroes Game Card or retail code?

All retailers have been instructed to remove these items from their shelves. If you did purchase a game card or retail code and were not able to use it, please contact the retailer to for a refund.

If they are unable to assist you, customer support may be able to help. Refunds for game cards or retail codes can only be processed if you have not already applied the cod to your account. Please provide the following information when you contact support.

• Your first and last name
• Your NCsoft master account name
• The 20 digit code from the game time card
• The name of the retailer from which you purchased your game card or retail code from
• A phone number where support can reach you
• Once support contacts you, please supply them with this additional information to receive a wire transfer for the refund:

• North America - Financial Institution, account number, routing number
• United Kingdom - Sort Code, account number
• European Union - International Bank Account Number (IBAN), Bank Information Code (BIC)
• NCsoft is not responsible for any incoming wire transfer fees that your financial institution may charge if you choose the wire transfer option.

In the event that a wire transfer is not possible, you may request to be mailed a check instead.

As someone who loves to support a game he loves, I have mixed feelings about a question like this. To qualify what I'm about to say, I do think $500 is a fair price for a lifetime sub. Lifetime subs for other MMOs generally shoot below this mark and probably shoot themselves in their feet by doing so. A $1,000 price tag would probably net a studio far more bad press than it would money.

But when I typed "fair price" above, I was speaking from a customer's perspective--or at least many customers. I don't think it's fair to a publisher or studio. It's a steal, and that's what's wrong with it to me personally. If I paid that $500 fee, then after I had essentially "used up the time" that $500 would have paid for, I'd have no option besides market purchases if I wanted to continue to support the game.

In City of Heroes, I was paying about $30 to $40 monthly to play (VIP subscription, one extra token, and various market purchases). But that was also because I was a (almost) three-year veteran trying to buy my way quickly to tier 9 (which I finally did, one week before the bad news broke). After that, my funding of City of Heroes would have been cut down to half of what I had been paying since Freedom launched (accounting for the 550 Paragon Points I'm now getting as a higher tier). I have built a very diverse roster of heroes that I love to play, and have increasingly focused on developing them rather than purchasing new power sets and whole costume bundles for new characters.

See what I'm getting at here? The first time a month went by where I didn't have to pay anything at all to support City of Heroes, I wouldn't feel good about it at all. Because I know full well that lifetime subs are quick cash grabs that hurt studios in the long run.

Angry Citizen and American Knight may be right in a very plain sense. But that's no kind of sense that ever gets anything done when the odds are stacked against something you love--and that includes a community built around an eight year-long hobby. If City of Heroes is by some miracle saved, it won't be people like Angry Citizen and American Knight, and their very plain sense, who we thank afterward. We'll thank Tony and all the other crazy nuts out there who pushed for the impossible, like they could hold it in the palm of their hand if they just kept trying. We'll thank all the people who equated saving this community with heroism, and who couldn't be told otherwise.

We are heroes. This is what we do.

People who downplay this effort are the same people who'd downplay any effort that is important to you but not to them; they're the same anti-social cretins that want to watch you grieve after helping you lose hope. And a dressing-down from people like this should mean about as much to you as getting dressed down by a terrible two year-old. Shouldn't mean a thing. Heroism takes all forms, and it takes all kinds. This community means so much to so many people, and whoever helps save it, or fails trying their damnedest, is a hero.

So, you gave up on your message after having two of this forum's most negative ninnies wag their fingers in your face for sport? Ya'know, these types are always the fastest to pounce onto any positive message to sink their teeth into it, but so what? You can't be bothered to do the right thing because a couple clowns showed up who can't stand seeing anyone drink out of a half-full glass?

I sincerely hope you'll do yourself and your integrity a favor, and come back tomorrow, and let us hear your message loud and clear. Tell these clowns to shove it, or just ignore 'em, these are your forums too.

I think this makes a thread bumping record for me for the past several years, but you know what?

For great justice, I'll take off every Zig and then some.

Read the OP. Stay in touch. The game and these forums are going away soon, but the heroes and villains of Paragon City aren't done yet.

Don't give NCSoft the last word. Keep an eye on the Titan Network.

*Salutes*

Welcome aboard, Sammich. We could all use a hero sammich right about now, so you're just in time.

Just remember. It's not over till we say it's over. Me, you, and thousands of other heroes, vigilantes, rogues, and villains.

City of Heroes/Villains is ending November 30, and these forums will most likely end sooner. Talks between NCSoft and Paragon might not have saved us, we just don't know. But a good hero never quits, and for that matter, neither does a cunning villain. The community will live on, and one day, the spirit of City of Heroes/Villains will rise from Paragon's ashes. Keep on eye on the Titan Network. They have some plans over there, and I think those nuts are actually crazy enough to see them through.

Yes, we really need to see continued rallies of support; but the problem with moving these efforts to the Beta Server is that it's the ONLY place where players can experience the game's newest features and play through Issue 24 content. I have a feeling that as the end draws near, more and more players will log onto the Beta Server to do just that. I know I'll be spending more time there.

Weirdly enough, the con to using the Beta Server may also be the pro: getting more players moved/copied onto the Beta Server will make teaming easier.