CaenFuryfist

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Here you want Flames Caen

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Where did I ask for flames?

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- Drop the crayolas and get a really job.


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Gee let me take a guess at who ya might be....using the same old lines I see, and yes, I am interested in the "really job", what does a "really job" entail.

You schooled me with your wordsmithing skills, really you did. So sad though, is that the best you can come up with after all this time? Crayons, HAHA, so funny, omg, how do you not have your own show and stand up comedy hour......oh thats right, its because you arent funny.

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I saw 3 Rikti monkies flinging poo that was more artistic!


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Thanks for sharing your personal life, I do so love to hear about your parents and boyfriend, how are they by the way, other then flinging poo at each other that is?

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There feel better?


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If I say no, you arent gonna say " Well I can make you feel better " again are you, and then make a pass at me like before?

I see alot of counter slamming going, people saying, YOU LOST, YOU ARE LOSERS, GET OVER IT, SUCK IT UP, etc, but you are missing the point of what many of the people who are raising issues are talking about. Sure they might have their criticisms of the winners, but the core issue was the way the system was set up to recieve the entries and what went on with some entries being posted and some didnt. Some of the posters werent concerned about winning as they were with just having their image posted in the gallery, and most of the people I have talked to were concerned with just getting an email from Cryptic/NCSoft saying, we got your entry, thanks for entering.

I am sure they will attempt to fix this so next time this wont be an issue and that many participants wont feel so left in the dark as to the status of their work/entry.

People, however, should be allowed to say what they wish about the entries, hell mine got ripped ten ways to Sunday, yet I dont see anyone, who stood up for the winners, saying stop ripping his as well, apparently mine was fair game, while the others werent.

I also dont see alot of personal attacks towards the artists by other posters, just their opinion as to their judgement of the works entered and won. I was leaped on right away for asking something I had every right to ask about, and was attacked from the get go, and after talking with "certain" people, I found out there was an issue that will most likely be fixed for next time, but the issue wasnt about the winners, but about how the submissions worked and how responses should and may be handled.

Some people felt slighted by the system and wanted to be heard and there is nothing wrong with that, especially when it appears there was a way to fix that problem to begin with. Cooler heads will prevail and perhaps we will find a good solution and a compromise that will alleviate the issues with this contest and future contests.

I agree that the first one's style is indeed more Rob Liefield's style ( I dont like that style, I was a jim lee, mag, adams guy myself, plus I hate Rob Liefield, he was a cocky arrogant tool when I met him at comic shows )

I also agree that number 3 really rocks imho, I love the sketchy style, and like I said, I dont know they used production art or drew it themselves, but I like the artwork. I like that sketchy style, as I was critiqued, yes my style is sketchy, that is what it it, perhaps you might want to look at some comics, you might see my style is similar to those, but I digress, I know you wanted to find every angle to slam me, so I can accept your review for what it was.

I would like to see alot more though.

I would like to apologize to the winners, I shouldnt have ripped into your entries. You did a good job. However still stand by my intial gripe of perhaps next time, they could incorporate some sort of auto response system, or clear room to post some more.

I am sure some of the contestants would love to direct their friends to www.cityofheros.com to show their artwork all the while driving up traffic and possibly bringing in new customers, maybe show 5 or 10 a week and rotate to the next set.

I still think though that when you enter a contest, especially something like this, where isnt just filling out an entry form, where you worked at it to develop something, there should be some sort of auto response email.

Until then I do love people posting their work, as it is wonderful to see, especially the one with the kid at the computer and the hero behind him, very well done, it is one of my top ten so far.

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By the way, I do know it got to them. See there's this thing called a "read receipt". It confirms that your email was looked at. You should look into it.


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So I either use outlook to send it, or I use a third party to make sure someone has read something when in fact the people I am sending the email to have an already established email response system set up.....so that I can track it....wow, amazing, talk about reaching around yer back to scratch yer elbow....

Anymore ways you can try to blame the people that submitted their works for COH not acknowledging them?

Rock on, I can accept all the criticism, all I am asking for though was an email saying hey we got it, thanks, I wanted to know they got it, that they even looked at it.

More over I made a suggestion that to acknowledge the people who submitted and who were left in the dark, that a badge wouldnt be a bad idea, I think it would ease alot of the pissed off contestants who feel slighted.

Thank you for taking the time to critique my work, however any positive notes ( other then I got potential ), or just all negative?

Bert I really like your entry as well, do you have a bigger version of it though?

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Yes my point that they should have some sort of system set up for sending out an email when someone submits something to their contest....yes, huzzah you got me, show me how that can be turned around because it such a terrible idea.

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Why do YOU know more about it then I do?


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Cause I am in communication with several posters via the mail system who agree with me, and feel slighted that they werent even acknowledged. You dont have access to my mail, so thus I know more then you in that regards, thanks

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I submitted a wallpaper as well.


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Huzzah for you, and like many other people who submitted it, do you even know if they got it or even looked at it?

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So it didn't win,


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Did it even get to them though?

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so the people on the boards didn't see it. I don't NEED their recognition. If I wanted it, I would post it in the appropriate section.


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Its not about that kind of recognition, once again you miss the point, people worked on this, some worked really hard, some worked really long, and they submitted and were left in the dark only to see the results come out and still have no clue if their work was even recieved or looked at.

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No promise was made to you to display your wallpaper.


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Nope, never said they did.

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no promise was made to display every single entry.


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Nope, never said they did.

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You don't know what you're talking about, that is obvious.


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Wow really? Twice now you have attempted to put words into my mouth, it seems to me you dont even know what I was attempting to garner. A system where you submit something, and they say, hey we got it, thanks for entering our contest....

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And you still don't know what a fanboi is. I'm willing to say that you are the opposite, which is just as bad.

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So I am the anti fanboi? You know the guy who doesnt kiss the butt of the company and take whatever is fed me as gospel truth and questions things....yeah I can accept that, better then being a blind sheep.

Is it wrong to ask they put in a system that acknowledges though that put time and energy into something with something as simple as an email, or as elaborate as a badge....I dont think so, but then again, I am on the side of the people who submitted entries and were left in the dark....which side are you on?

Please dont present logic and sense to the rabid fanboi as it will send him into a tizzy. I too agree that they should be posted, and some sort of acknowledgement should be made.

I still think even a badge, with a pen and pencil, called CoH Feild Artist or something to that effect for the people who submitted something would be a nice gesture, since it is apparent they didnt really have a good system set up to acknowledge if they got the pics in the first place.

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wow, very well done! By the way , there is a section in the forums where you can post your art any time. You should take a look.

I believe CuppaJo did say they were not able to post all of the entries. I'm sure there were thousands.


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And they have an email system that auto generates an email when you petition yet not one when you submit an entry into a contest....amazing, and once again thats for being the best fanboi one could ask for, you rock!!!

As for your wallpaper, I dig it man, wish it was displayed.

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Seems to me the second place winner broke a few of the rules. Anyone disagree?

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I think they will argue they own the comic book and rights to it, but isnt that the original artwork of the artist of the comic book......

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As for the first place winner, I didnt notice the change, what was it?

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However, I am glad the rabid fanbois have come charging out, what would a good thread be without them?

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Why were the rest of us not allowed a second submission?

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Hecht man, some of us dont even know if they got our submission in the first place. I guess acknowledging someone's hard work with an email is too much to ask for, let alone, it would be nice to have a special badge designed for all those that participated, so you get some sort of recognition for even submitting something you either spent minutes or hours on.

However I do like the first place winner, though it wouldnt be my first choice, the second place winner is too much of a stretch for me, however the third place winner is nicely done, original artwork as far as I can tell, or a lifted sketch from the designers, either way, pretty cool, Runner Up.....YES, WHAT IS CITY OF HEROS.....???? You cannot really tell what the hecht this entry is supposed to be....seems more a thrown together piece of various ideas then anything else.....the kheld runner up, simple sweet, but seriously,other then the planet can you see anything else, the dark images and clarity leave alot to be desired, and finally the statue runner up, print screen x 5, add some lighting effects via photoshop and badda bing badda boom, ya got a wallpaper!!!

I have seen better posted and so have other posters. I am not the only who believes this either.

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but it doesn't have the CoH logo, the website URL, or really anything to do with City of Heroes.

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Wow really, you mean the big city of heros logo in the right hand corner wasnt obvious to you, nor was the fact that Statesman is standing in the middle of the image....wow.....did you even look at it? More over it wasnt in the rules that any of that had to be part of it, they didnt ask for it, nor hint at wanting it. If they did, it would of been part of mine.

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Anyway, carry on your crying... if you do it long enough, maybe there won't be anymore contests. Then will you be happy?


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I am asking for some basic things in a contest, like fair and equal treatment and acknowledgement of submission, not too much to ask, but once again, I do love fanbois so much, so willing to defend what you barely understand....I look forward to another post by you, seriously I do....

I understand it is subject to opinion, but the contest smells, the entries that were first posted magically almost all made it, save for one, I havent heard anyone say they got any kind of response or acknowledgement saying that their submission was recieved, and more over, there is being subjective, and then there is being moronic. I am sure you will say a picture of a dog turd is just as beautiful as sunset at the beach because you say it is subjective, but there are things that have a mass appeal, and some of those entries dont cut the mustard when compared to others.

I am sorry if I am hurting the feelings of the contestants that won, but its not like they gonna lose their prize, so they most likely dont care, and some might even know they submitted a bad entry and magically won, so its no skin off their teeth.

The contest system was bad, the judging seemed to go horribly wrong, and the requirements for winning seemed to have changed without notice to the people entering. Next time you want to have a contest, make sure you explain what you want clearly, that if you want just fan screenshots with the words CITY OF HEROS, your logo, your website address and some catchy phrase, state that, and if you dont want real original pieces of work, state that too. I see one, maybe two winners that I like, ones that actually used some creativity and didnt just stick some screenshots together. However I would like to see more of them, and I encourage others who entered to post their works. It seems to be a ribbon going through alot of the threads, "Was that all of them?" "Wow, where is mine?" "Did you even get mine?".......

Smells bad to me....

"best of the lot" -- funny how so many entries seemed to have gone "unposted" but when those missing entries were posted by the artists, they gleened many, wow that rocks, that is so much better then what has been posted, they should of posted that....or similar statements to that effect. Guess originality, creativity and talent had less to do with the contest as it seems to be who submitted theirs first since they stopped looking at them early on oh and who could hit print screen the best. If I knew all ya had to do with paste a few words over a screenshot instead of actually working on something original I could of had it done in a few minutes instead of days. HOORAH for PHOTOSHOP!!!

I am so upset, mostly because I have no idea if you guys even got mine since you didnt send out an email saying at least even thank you for the entry or even acknowledging it when I emailed you asking for some sort of indication if you got it.

Personally I feel you looked through a few and threw darts at board and went with it, cause I have seen a few others that far surpass the limited choices you presented.


By the way, here is mine , thanks for not letting people know anything and keeping them in the dark, I am not the only who submitted something and asked if we could get an email to let us know you even got them, thats not so much to ask, some sort of auto response system saying, yes we got it, thank you for entering.

Next time if you are gonna have a contest, at least find a way to let people know you got their entries, its bad enough to be worried if you will win, add in the fact that they were kept in complete darkness as to the status of it.

I think you chose poorly, and thats more then sour grapes talking, as I see you only showed a few of the first ones and few of the last ones and made yer pick from there. I am sad for the people who entered and were left in the dark and still dont know if they had their entries judged, and just sad for this contest.

I am sure I will get a warning or lashed out at for speaking my mind, it really doesnt matter though.