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The other day, I tried to fix my messed-up character description...
It was like playing hide and seek with the bloody cursor for 5 minutes!
Eventually I had to do what UberGuy suggested.
I used Ctrl + A to clean out my description, fired up my trusty Notepad, fixed it up, pasted it back in and inserted the line breaks. It was a lot easier. -
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You can now name your builds!
Great hidden features!
Worst patch notes process in 6 issues!
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Zombie man!!!
Just when I thought you are a living incarnation of Paragon Wiki, you go and say something like this. Shame on you! Tsk tsk tsk!
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Kicked? Or realized a certain place was filled with rampant USI and creepy and went I TROLL U.
But in terms of USI, I'm sure you'll fit right in!
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Update: Huh. I just got some nice insight into you. To the tell you the truth, I'm not even gonna continue talking to someone who was kicked from a certain place. Smooth!
And now I remember why I avoided the Virtue forums. Have fun bashing and criticizing each other, friends!
Ciao!
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Glad to know I have a stalker!
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Highly unlikely.
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Aw. You wound my heart.
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Exactly. And after a couple of years, I've learned the only way to do that, is to hop into a VG/SG that suits your RP standards.
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Like Rogue Entertainment! *awesomeface.gif*
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Glad to know I have a stalker!
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Yes. I, the player of Enerix, am talking about moral and ethical dimensions of ERP and sharing my opinions regarding the matter. Your point?
[/ QUOTE ]The same reason I would find it ironic to hear Michael Bay talk about ways to make good movies.
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I kindda like some of his movies.
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I know! Isn't it romantic?
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To the original poster. Sorry your thread got derailed a little. On a more related note, this sort of thing is one of the reasons I avoid Pocket D. This sort of OOC interaction between people who believe they have come down to us from the heavens and are blessing us with their perfectly moral, perfectly unadulterated, infinitely awesome Roleplaying skills. People who judge others out-of-character for what they do in-character and have a hard time realizing not only is everyone not perfect, but they are probably far from perfect in the eyes of others. Sadly, some tolerate this, and some don't; and this is the nature of humans...especially in the internet. So I'm not complaining. I also really couldn't care less about anyone's opinion on myself unless they're giving their opinion out of care.
*huggles Talen and Delta* <3
This game would be dull without people like you.
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That proposal will be Retcon'd at lightning speed.
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Probably. I was never as good as you when it came to relationships.
Hey, if we're stabbing each other under the cloaks, I'll get a turn too!
Now, before the thread gets locked...
We didn't start the flame war!
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I love you too!
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Sorry Stryph! My heart is with Talon now. I'm gonna propose to him soon. I'm sorry.
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Yes. I, the player of Enerix, am talking about moral and ethical dimensions of ERP and sharing my opinions regarding the matter. Your point?
[/ QUOTE ]The same reason I would find it ironic to hear Michael Bay talk about ways to make good movies.
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I kindda like some of his movies. So thanks for the compliment! I love you too!
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Actually, he did. I said "It's a question of whether or not it's appropriate for an adult to engage a teenager in those activities. I think the general consensus in our society is that it is not. Do you disagree? " He said "when it comes to actual sex, no. When it comes to cybersex, absolutely!".
He disagrees that it is inappropriate for an adult to engage a teenager in cybersex. That's from him directly. Thats not me putting words in his mouth. Go back and read it for yourself.
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Not to get into yet another heated discussion, as I have my going on, apparently. xD
But Fernandes' response to the statement "It's a question of whether or not it's appropriate for an adult to engage a teenager in those activities. I think the general consensus in our society is that it is not. Do you disagree?" is rather vague. It could be interpreted in a variety of ways, and I think you just interpreted it in a way that was to your advantage. And I don't see anything wrong with it. :P
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What other way could his REPLY be interpreted in regards to my question. Because his response seems very clear and unmistakeable to me. But I'm willing to hear the "unbiased" interpretation you see.
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I didn't say my interpretation would be unbiased.
Here's is one potential interpretation:
"I think the general consensus in our society is that it is not." <--- you said this, and asked "Do you disagree?"
Fernandes: "With respec to actual sex? No. [I don't disagree with respect to actual sex and I think the general consensus in our society is that it's wrong.] With respect to cybersex? Yes, absolutely. [I do disagree that it may or may not be agreed that the general consensus in our society is that it's wrong.]"
I'm not Fernandes' interpretor. :P And as I said, I don't really wish to take part in your discussion with him. Just pointing out a potential misunderstanding.
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I'm merely saying that unless the 30 year-old person in question KNOWS they are 'ERPing' with a 13 year-old, then they have done nothing wrong as far as the rules go
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"But she LOOKED 18! Honest!" has never been a valid defense.
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Actually, he did. I said "It's a question of whether or not it's appropriate for an adult to engage a teenager in those activities. I think the general consensus in our society is that it is not. Do you disagree? " He said "when it comes to actual sex, no. When it comes to cybersex, absolutely!".
He disagrees that it is inappropriate for an adult to engage a teenager in cybersex. That's from him directly. Thats not me putting words in his mouth. Go back and read it for yourself.
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Not to get into yet another heated discussion, as I have my going on, apparently. xD
But Fernandes' response to the statement "It's a question of whether or not it's appropriate for an adult to engage a teenager in those activities. I think the general consensus in our society is that it is not. Do you disagree?" is rather vague. It could be interpreted in a variety of ways, and I think you just interpreted it in a way that was to your advantage. And I don't see anything wrong with it. :P -
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What? That because you have no idea who I am, I clearly can't know anything about you?
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No that because if I don't know you, then I can safely assume you don't know me either, simply because of reasons I do not feel the need to discuss, especially not in a public thread about an unrelated topic.
That being said, I'll just respond to your original comment:
Yes. I, the player of Enerix, am talking about moral and ethical dimensions of ERP and sharing my opinions regarding the matter. Your point? -
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I know what it means, I just want to know where you got snark out of my comment.
The word you're looking for is 'irony.'
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Ah. Thanks.
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... the player of Enerix is telling off people about the moral and ethical implcations of ERP?
Huh.
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Huh.
Looking at your list of heroes and villains, I don't even know you. Chances are, you don't know me either. So please hold your snark to yourself and speak about someone only if you know them enough to make valid judgments.
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Incedentally, my question about what people expect to have happen in a public RP space wasn't directed specifically at Smurch, I'm curious as to what other proponents of a designated public RP area think.
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You see. This is another issue. I believe we don't need -a- designated public RP area. Any designated public RP area would eventually turn into Pocket D.
I believe we need SEVERAL designated public RP areas. For instance, Pocket D, Midnighter's Club, Center of Cimerora, an area in Rikti War Zone, etc.
This way we'll have several themes, which would expand the variety of character. Not ALL characters have to be forced to go to a night club in order to find a few friends. Not ALL characters want their meet n' greet limited to flirting, drinking, and watching bar fights.
Sadly, the above proposal is not really possible. First of all, the population of roleplayers on Virtue is not enough to always fill Pocket D up, let alone several places at once. Second of all, as I've learned, you can't just point to a spot and tell people "RP THUR!". So this is more like a 'in a perfect world' scenario. -
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With respec to actual sex? No. With respect to cybersex? Yes, absolutely. And the law which you seem to be so fond of agrees with me.
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Again you fail to grasp my point.
This isn't about the law. I honestly don't know (nor really care) what the law says about that sort of activity.
It's about if it's ethically appropriate or not. Apparently this is an area we disagree. I feel it's irresponsible and unethical for an adult to engage a young teenager in sexual behavior of any kind, including phone sex or cybersex. You apparently do not.
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Smurch, you're literally putting words in peoples' mouths with your claims. Fernandes never said an adult engage in cybersex or ERP with a minor is ethically and morally acceptable. Sadly, you completely ignored my post regarding the issue. Here it is again:
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If a person is mature enough to buy a video game without requiring permission from their parents, then they should also be mature enough to accept that online interactions are not covered by the ERSB rating and that by buying this game, they are exposing themselves to such scenarios. I also do hope that they are mature enough to understand what ERP is and decide if they want to avoid it or not.
If a person is NOT mature enough to buy a video game without requiring permission from their parents, then the parents are the ones who should be mature enough to read the labels on the box and understand the consequences of letting their child play an online video game.
I'm merely saying that unless the 30 year-old person in question KNOWS they are 'ERPing' with a 13 year-old, then they have done nothing wrong as far as the rules go, and it's mostly either the child's fault, or their parents for letting them be there in the first place.
Then, there is also the topic of difference between "Cyber" and "ERP"...two completely different things that a lot of people don't seem to grasp the difference between them. Just like people who confuse MRP with ERP. I'm not criticizing anyone. I'm merely sharing my opinions. :P
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Whats worse is this is a "T" rated game which means one of them could be 30 years old, and the other one could be 13.
Really people... THINK before you ERP!
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Not to support ERP. But...
"Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB."
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Way to miss the point.
This is a "T" rated game, which means it's reasonable to assume many people who play it might just be teens.
i.e. If you don't find something wrong with the idea that, if you're a 30 year old man and you're having cybersex with someone who, for all you know, *could* be a 13 year old kid, then there's something seriously screwed up about you in the head.
Seriously.
ERP with someone whom you do not know IRL is irresponsible. At best. Squicky pseudo-pederasty at worst.
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I didn't say it's okay for a 30 year old man to ERP with a 13 year old kid.
What I said was:
If a person is mature enough to buy a video game without requiring permission from their parents, then they should also be mature enough to accept that online interactions are not covered by the ERSB rating and that by buying this game, they are exposing themselves to such scenarios. I also do hope that they are mature enough to understand what ERP is and decide if they want to avoid it or not.
If a person is NOT mature enough to buy a video game without requiring permission from their parents, then the parents are the ones who should be mature enough to read the labels on the box and understand the consequences of letting their child play an online video game.
I'm merely saying that unless the 30 year-old person in question KNOWS they are 'ERPing' with a 13 year-old, then they have done nothing wrong as far as the rules go, and it's mostly either the child's fault, or their parents for letting them be there in the first place.
Then, there is also the topic of difference between "Cyber" and "ERP"...two completely different things that a lot of people don't seem to grasp the difference between them. Just like people who confuse MRP with ERP. I'm not criticizing anyone. I'm merely sharing my opinions. :P
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Bit of a tangent, but when the peope who actually do it stop calling cybersex "mature roleplaying" thats when I will too.
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Whats worse is this is a "T" rated game which means one of them could be 30 years old, and the other one could be 13.
Really people... THINK before you ERP!
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Not to support ERP. But...
"Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB."
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Way to miss the point.
This is a "T" rated game, which means it's reasonable to assume many people who play it might just be teens.
i.e. If you don't find something wrong with the idea that, if you're a 30 year old man and you're having cybersex with someone who, for all you know, *could* be a 13 year old kid, then there's something seriously screwed up about you in the head.
Seriously.
ERP with someone whom you do not know IRL is irresponsible. At best. Squicky pseudo-pederasty at worst.
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I didn't say it's okay for a 30 year old man to ERP with a 13 year old kid.
What I said was:
If a person is mature enough to buy a video game without requiring permission from their parents, then they should also be mature enough to accept that online interactions are not covered by the ERSB rating and that by buying this game, they are exposing themselves to such scenarios. I also do hope that they are mature enough to understand what ERP is and decide if they want to avoid it or not.
If a person is NOT mature enough to buy a video game without requiring permission from their parents, then the parents are the ones who should be mature enough to read the labels on the box and understand the consequences of letting their child play an online video game.
I'm merely saying that unless the 30 year-old person in question KNOWS they are 'ERPing' with a 13 year-old, then they have done nothing wrong as far as the rules go, and it's mostly either the child's fault, or their parents for letting them be there in the first place.
Then, there is also the topic of difference between "Cyber" and "ERP"...two completely different things that a lot of people don't seem to grasp the difference between them. Just like people who confuse MRP with ERP. I'm not criticizing anyone. I'm merely sharing my opinions. :P
And to Warp_Factor:
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The problem with Pocket D isn't that cyberers are there.
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I never said it is. :P I avoid Pocket D for many reasons, a lot of which have nothing to do with Cybersex and/or ERP. Read my previous paragraph for one example.
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The real problem for me is I can not find anyone to really rp with....that and the few I do tend to find tend to be flat.
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That is exactly the current problem with Virtue right now. It needs a gathering area for the RP community with characters who are not affiliated with any groups. Sadly, the only place is Pocket D and we already stated what's wrong with it.
I tried to create another RP spot. So did many others. But it never got enough motivation from the RP community. So I just gave up. *shrug* -
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...but you need to hunt for them.
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Exactly. And after a couple of years, I've learned the only way to do that, is to hop into a VG/SG that suits your RP standards.
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Whats worse is this is a "T" rated game which means one of them could be 30 years old, and the other one could be 13.
Really people... THINK before you ERP!
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I know what you're saying Shadow. I hate people who RP... and then, when YOU RP they attack you!
Like I had a character on villain side, who is a crochety old supervillain who just came out of retirement. He's basically a homophobe, and so when I got on a team with two dudes who were RPing as guys "on the other side of the fence" I was practically reported. Had to ease up, or I WOULD have been.
In another case, I was on a Mutant extremist who HATED Arachnos with a passion, and so when a Spider came on my team, me and her had a very long (ver, very fun) RP session of smack-talking one another back and forth.
Well, the WHOLE time some girl was PMing me over and over and over about how I needed to be "mor nice" or she "would do something about it." Which made no sense, since she wasn't the team leader, and the leader knew that we were RPing. And no matter HOW many tmes I explained to her that we were having a good time, and just staying in character, she would NOT shut up!
Argh.
Now I'm all angry and stuff.
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Do people still RP on this server?
They certainly do.
However, "RP" has a very, very, VERY broad definition.
Sadly, there are a lot of people who believe there is a pre-determined, standard way of RPing. I've seen way too many people criticize each other over how they should RP that I'm just plain sick and tired of it.
That's why, as of late, I've decided to avoid RP. I've decided to join some VGs (which is something I never wanted to do, because I dislike the idea of cliques), and I'm having loads of fun. I just wish people in the "RP Community" were more respectful to each other and accepted that every person RPs for different reasons; and regardless of what their reasons and goals are, they're still RPing and enjoying themselves.
Then there is the endless sea of 'drama' that is popular in the RP community. And I'm not talking about in-character drama. RP is drama. I'm talking about people confuse in-character and out-of-character interactions, people who mix the borders of IC and OOC and let their feelings ruin plots that are potentially hurting their characters. And personally, I am also sick and tired of this type of drama.
Unless you roll a character who is a Generic Anti-hero #6625, people seem to dislike you when it comes to 'open RP communities' like Pocket D. If you ever want to play a true villain who eats babies and kills puppies, everyone will hate YOU because ZOMG YOU ARE A BAD PERSON BECAUSE YOU ARE PLAYING A BAD CHARACTER! I have actually had that happen.
I used to play a she-devil who hated men with strong passion. One day, she was in Pocket D, and was having a very pleasant, peaceful discussion with a man about how his kind is a plague to society. I had someone send me a tell, telling me that they've reported me for promoting sexism. People need to understand characters do not represent people, nor do they represent their ideals and morals. And that is the cause of most drama in public RP communities.
So, I've decided to stick with people who agree with my views. And believe me, I don't think what I'm saying is right. It's purely my opinion. I just try to RP with people who share the same opinion. It's compatibility.
I suggest you do the same if you want to find RP that appeals to your likings and taste.