Bright Shadow
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Quote:Oh wow, I REALLY like this build! It's a little expensive, but it is not too far from possible.Originally Posted by Powerforge
Heh, that's a thread unto itself
I agree completely with all the advice given so far on DM/SD. I'll post my build here so you have something to consider as you level. Builds are highly personal though and while I think this is the very best DM/SD I can build others will have a differing opinion. Still, if you click the Scrapper Vids or the Multiple AV link in my sig it will give you some food for thought too.
As far as the cost of puples and the market? Milady's Knight hit it right on the head I think
That's the reason. AE. I myself am totally guilty of running boss farms to level. After 3 years my "fun" in game comes more from creating "uber" builds and then creating and testing the toons than it does from playing the same story driven content I've done over and over.
But help is coming. The difficulty slider will change all this for me. I will be more than happy to dump the crazy XP for slightly less crazy XP and the chance to get rich PL'ng a toon to 50 with regular missions.
Anyway, here's Saint October's build to give you a starting point.
Good luck!
I actually wanted Flight for concept reasons and I couldn't get it in the build I was planning! I was having trouble with Soft-Capping. But you fit it in! It's perfect! I love you!
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Alright. I rolled a DM/Shield. Thanks to the magic of AE and a bunch of friends, she's sitting at level 21 now.
I'm enjoying it so far. Especially when I took her out for a test drive on her cape mission with 4th Challenge Level.
I'm currently focusing on a "Fun Build", like I do with all my characters. I take whatever power I think would be coolest at the time. Once I reach 50, then I start worrying about the numbers.
However, I do have one question.
How do you slot Siphon Life? -
Well I have had experience with Super Reflexes. It's just I chose a not-so-ultimate primary set with it (Dual Blades).
Considering the fact that I haven't tried Shield Defense yet, I think it's best to go with that.
A concern though. How much budget am I looking at to get an "ultimate" DM/SD Scrapper?
Furthermore, is Hasten ABSOLUTELY NEEDED for the "ultimate" DM/SD Scrapper? I really hate Hasten with passion. -
I normally don't post around the Scrapper forums, even though I like to think I'm a Scrapper specialist when it comes to play style. However, I'm stuck regarding a decision, and I was hoping some of the more experienced Scrappers could point me in the right direction.
Basically, I want my ultimate Scrapper. I already have 4 Scrappers (BS/WP, Claw/Regen, Dark/Dark, Spines/Fire) and 3 Brutes (Energy/Energy, Dual Blades/SR, SS/Invul), but I mainly built them for pure fun, and their builds revolve around concept. But now I want to have a Scrapper that can look at AVs and chuckle and insult their mothers.
For primary, I think I want to pick Dark Melee. It seems to be a very versatile melee set with a bunch of "utility" powers that would come in very handy in tough battles.
For secondary, I'm not sure what to pick. I'm stuck between:
Willpower: I think Willpower with near-capped Defenses would be quite nice, especially with Dark Melee's ToHit DeBuffs.
Super Reflexes: I am a personal fan of SR. But it's really not fun to level, and it's a very tight set. That, and from experience, there is always a chance that you get squashed in two shots if the foe gets lucky.
Shields: I have never experienced this set.
So. What do you think would go best with Dark Melee for an 'ultimate' Scrapper build?!
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Are people ever gonna let this go?!
Guys! The developers of this game are not a bunch of monkeys stuck in a room, clueless on what to do with their bloody game! They're not just sitting their scratching their rears in the hopes of someone coming here and suggesting how to "fix" Architect Entertainment!
AE has changed City of Heroes!
City of Heroes is changing!
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I'll be honest. I did not fully read the original post, or the posts that followed. I just wanted to add a personal observation. From what I read, your suggestions are already suggested countless times.
From what I've seen with the progression of City of Heroes in the past several updates and the news about the stuff in Issue 16, I have come to the conclusion that City of Heroes is taking a new path, with a new future, and a separate road from your average MMORPG.
Since NCSoft took over City of Heroes, the game has gone under drastic changes, starting with the PvP system.
Personally, I do not believe the developers are sitting around, utterly clueless on what the concerns of the subscribers are, and no ideas on how to address them. I think the developers are not only aware of our concerns, but they probably know more about addressing them than we do. So I doubt these redundant threads that are oh-so-full of "ideas" and "suggestions" to "fix" AE are needed.
From what I see, and from the direction I see CoH is taking, AE does not need fixing.
City of Heroes is changing. Leveling is becoming more of an obsolete concept as we advance. Level difference is becoming a trivial concept. From what I see, they are letting everyone play the game in the way they want to.
They are letting farmers farm. They are letting power levelers power level. They are letting content-seekers seek content. They're letting market manipulators manipulate the market. They're opening the doors of PvP to anyone and everyone, including that casual player with a clumsy build.
Let it rest. City of Heroes is changing. Nothing needs "fixing". The only thing that needs to be fixed is the "veteran community". The only thing that is needed is for us, the old-time players to adapt.
City of Heroes is becoming different from your usual MMORPG. And I think this is what sets this magnificent game apart from its future competitors.
And personally, I think City of Heroes has never been better. The game is on an excelling road, and it will continue to grow as long as we support it. If you think the game you loved and cherished so much is "broken", then leave. If not, adapt and enjoy your time with the new direction of CoH and stop thinking the developers of the game are a clueless bunch of monkeys stuck in a room.
These are merely my own observations. And as a CoH subscriber, I've never been happier. Feel free to disagree. -
Quote:You serious?Originally Posted by shizaru
Heh. remember the old days when Blind Invites were the DOOOOOOOOM warning and there'd be a dozen threads about it?
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Quote:Well. I'm just gonna agree to disagree.Originally Posted by Tonality
I've been meaning to get back into this topic. (really?!!)
The problem in AE is not farming. It is the rampant powerleveling going on that has changed the typical gameplay experience. This is what needs to be addressed, not farming.
I am concerned that players aren't experiencing the incredible variety available to the game. I wonder if those players going 1-50 in AE ever got the chance feel the rush of leading a team on that brute they rolled that doesn't have set IOs yet. I wonder if that level 30 broadcasting in cap even bothered getting enhancements. It's not like that lvl 50 running the team can't solo it.
As a farmer, I am concerned about AE's impact on the game. The game is not all about dinging to 50 as fast as possible. Sure, PvPers like having this ability so they can get the new FOTM out there. Sure, some people like to skip to SOs. There isn't really any problem with this. There is, however, a problem when a good portion of the playerbase is spending the majority of their time sitting on lowbies in on farms. As I said, it is rampant powerleveling that has me concerned.
Is this game really bad enough 1-50 that we have to rush through it? I know I get spoiled playing my best 50's.
I really don't feel like there is any more room to discuss this topic. I disagree with your opinion, for a few reasons, and let's leave it at that.
I do admit though, Tonality, at least your logic makes sense.
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Quote:Sources?Originally Posted by Adeon_Hawkwood
That's not entirely true, one of the features of Going Rogue is new content for level 50s that will make allow them to get stronger (I believe the term used was "Universal Enhancement Slots").
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Quote:But! But! I made a funny!Originally Posted by Lucretia_MacEvil
Ummm... careful, Bright_Shadow, you're showing your age again (and sounding like a, ahem, certain disagreeable person on another thread that we both posted in, even though it's pretty clear that you're kidding).
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You wanna what is ruining the game?
Graphics. That's right!
Whatever happened to text-based games? Huh?
All these fancy new 3D stuff are ruining the game! In my days, we had fun typing out commands to do in game in a crappy DOS interface.
You guys are cheating! You're taking the easier route by looking at graphics! You have no imagination!
You're all exploiters and cheaters!
I will stand up for justice! TAKE GRAPHICS OUT OF COH!
CoH is a game about heroes! Not tight leather! -
Quote:Ah. I see.Originally Posted by _____
there are minimum post count and reputation count variables in vbulletin that the admin can set
if you don't meet them, you leave neutral rep
don't ask me what they're set at here because i have no idea -
Didn't wanna start a new thread for this question. So I'll just throw it here...
Sometimes you get a 'green' rep. Sometimes you get 'red' rep...
But sometimes I get a 'grey' rep in my rep list. What is that? Is it neutral rep? How can you give neutral rep to someone? And what's the point? -
Quote:Indeed.Originally Posted by Cavatina
Most casuals cant see the forest for the trees. They decry the AE and farmers for what they do while simultaneously demanding everyone go farm freakshow in radio pugs or run the sewers for the 8 trillionth time to farm low level exp.
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Quote:Meh. I get more money from tickets. I am a very unlucky person when it comes to recipe drops.Originally Posted by Not_Epsilon
I am a pretty efficent farmer and i still can't figure how AE is more lucrative then RC, i get a purple every 3-5 runs(25-35) min on the demon map and in most cases it puts the profits 1.5x-3x what AE would offer.
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Quote:I wasn't really saying YOU were calling farmers exploiters. I was talking in general. Sorry if I came out offensive. I didn't mean to.Originally Posted by Barata
I didn't claim farmers were exploiting the game. As both you and Hydrophidian pointed out, there are different issues that make the AE more lucrative than normal PI farming. Convenience is one. You don't need to travel far and the hospital is right there. You brought up auto-sk, and that's a valid feature too. All of these give you increased XP per hour.
But it still comes down to this..... if AE wasn't more profitable than PI, people would still be in PI. Some of the things that make AE more profitable may not necessarily be the difficulty level or the experienced gained per boss, but all components do add up to make it more profitable.
With I16, focus should shift once more towards regular missions again. Right now though, AE offers advantages that PI does not.
And please, I didn't say farmers were exploiting. I'll say that some people were exploiting at various times (Comm Officers, Mitos). That's if we use the common definition of exploiting that is used within the game.... using an intended behavior or broken mechanic for gain.
I agree with you in regards to most things.
However, I cannot see what the big deal is. The Risk vs. Reward curve is never a straight, diagonal line. It is a curve. And in every curve, there is a "point of efficiency".
Right now, this point leads farmers to AE.
If you take AE out, it'd lead farmers to somewhere else.
It's that simple. And to me, farming bosses in AE is way more fun that farming Behemoths with my Spines/Fire Scrapper. Why? Because it's more of a challenge. And with that challenge, comes greater rewards. -
Quote:Farming is not about maximum rewards. Farming is about efficiency. There are many factor that go into your "walk in the park" AE boss farm, and unless you're the actual team leader, you don't really get to see them.Originally Posted by Barata
Yes. Like you said, with the right team, it's more efficient. But that exact same reasoning applies to all content within the game. It's not like you can pick up a mission outside of AE and team build doesn't matter. Also, you don't need to use custom bosses with reduced experience, you can pick out standard ones that your build does well against.
As for it being a walk in the park.... it very well can be a walk in the park. I've run through a couple of those. Lots of experience, capped out ticket rewards, zero risk, little effort.
If PI farming teams are just as lucrative as AE, then why aren't more people in PI farming? If AE doesn't have all these advantages, why is it so popular? I'm serious. When people farm, they choose the most rewarding content. That's why you don't see farm teams running radio missions. So if AE does not offer advantages to the normal PI farm teams, then why do the farmers, people who admit and pride themselves on their knowledge of maximizing rewards, concentrate on AE?
You need a team. And you need a GOOD team. You need high DPS, and high survivability. Sure, this team could mow any regular content missions. But it is not NECESSARY in order to mow your way in regular content. In AE, it is necessary; otherwise you'll have team-wipes and quitters.
What makes AE so 'popular' is the fact that it is accessible. That, and the Auto-SK feature. These reduce the time needed for farms. And time is a major factor in efficient farming.
As I've said it countless times, farmers do not exploit the game. Farmers find an efficient point in the Risk vs. Reward curve of the game, and then repetitively use it for their advantage.
Right now, this point of efficiency seems to reside in AE maniac boss farms (and other farms depending on your particular team build). And in order to reach this point of efficiency, you need a well-built team and co-ordinated team play (unless you're that one guy who solo's boss farms with their 4 billion IO'd-out build with enough DPS to do it efficiently). Once you do arrive at that point of efficiency, rewards start rolling. -
Quote:I gotta try that some time.Originally Posted by Kelenar
I've got one in my Dom's Fire Breath, though she has the whole Ragnarok set, too. It's fun in there. Looks like she breathes out fire so fast that it knocks people on their butts. It's also very nice for giving me some mitigation against anybody who gets missed in the initial stalagmites barrage.
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Quote:AE is more efficient FOR THE RIGHT TEAM. AE does NOT give experience in greater quantities (custom bosses offer less XP than bosses in-game, Patrol XP is not taken in AE, and there is no end-mission bonus). AE does NOT give out experience with less effort because farming level 54 bosses isn't really a walk in the park.Originally Posted by Barata
AE is more efficient. AE gives out experience in greater quantities. AE gives out experience with less effort. That's the difference.
If that wasn't true, people would still be farming in PI. -
Besides, once you get into 40s, there is a whole new bucket of stuff to do!
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Quote:I never door sit. Fighting is fun!Originally Posted by Cuppa_LLX
*psst* come to Virtue, obviously you got the idiot server. Hell ive been on one "door sit" AE farm and that was run by a fire/kin controler who didnt mind if we helped as long as we didn't slow him down. and by the halfway point every doorsitter was doing something in the fight.
If a farmer demands that I door sit, I quit the team right away. I'm also from Virtue! -
Quote:YOU'RE WRONG!Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
*stands in the middle of the thread watching it go around and around in circles with no end in sight*
You guys done yet? You're making me dizzy here.
Here's a thought: How about everyone take a break from the internet nerd-raging and go play the game for a while. I mean, that IS why you have an account, right?
Or, if you'd rather stay on your respective soapboxes and scream at each other, at least put a hat out so the amused passerby can drop a dollar in. Keep going long enough and it might pay for a month or two for ya.
Screaming "You're wrong!" at the top of your lungs does nothing to make either side any more right.
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Quote:As I always say, unless you can give out sources, do not throw numbers into verbal logic, regardless of how insignificant they are to the topic.Originally Posted by Armsman
Where you throw out UNSUPPORTED DATA - ie the percentage of 'nerfs' caused by PLers and Farmers. Youneed to provide a SOURCE (aka a link to a Dev post or other info) that SUBSTANCIATES your claim. You have YET to do so in any post in this thread. At best you present some anecdotal evidence as substanciated fact; but, sorry, it doesn't work like that in a reasoned debate structure. It's not what you 'believe', it's what you can 'prove' are facts, and anecdotal evidence and personal opinion do not qualify.
It is an insult to mathematical logic, mathematicians, and everyone you're arguing with.
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Quote:LOLOriginally Posted by MOUT__
If you insist... http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=185764
I doubt I'd take part in it though. I think green dots look prettier than red dots.
Then again...RED is one of my favorite colors...
Hmmm...