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Um. I don't mean to interrupt the fruitful discussion, but Golden Girl, can you please give us some sources from where you're pulling all these info bits out?
Last time I remember, you weren't a developer.
That being said, I also do think marketing is doing a very, very terrible job. A tease is only useful if it promises a satisfactory ending. Otherwise it's just utter frustration. Dear gawd, that sounds dirty. -
Quote:Even if that was true, you're wrong in comparing GR to CoH or CoV. CoH and CoV were both stand alone games. The only thing they had in common was the engine, game mechanics, and game play. One could buy just CoV and play it. Or one could stay with CoH and enjoy only the hero-side content (this, of course, was changed later).When comparing it to either CoH or CoV; which gave us multiple zones (each with enough to give us that 'whole world' feel); a full compliment of ATs and powersets and level 1-50 content... what I've heard of GR falls drastically short of that. It seems more on par with Issue 10 [+ Issue 11].
CoV was not an EXPANSION. It was its own game. GR, however, is an expansion. An issue is an expansion. The only difference between GR and an issue is that GR requires money. Why? Because it's larger and more grand than an issue.
And just from what we've seen, I think me and you can both agree that GR -is- in fact a lot more than a single issue, hence justifying the payment. -
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Pretty much! *waits for a certain Goblin*
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JadeTora, as a person who generally likes your sound logic in your posts, I think you need to stop thinking so much about how some random strangers on an internet forum (or in-game) think of you.
The harsh reality is that in a few years, CoH will die, and so will the official forums. Even if that doesn't happen, over half the people who have taunted you and were taunted by you will have moved on to a different game.
All you can do is laugh and move on. Don't let your virtual status in a virtual community full of virtual people take your attention from your ACTUAL life, which, I hope, is much, MUCH more serious and in need of focus.
Thanks to anonymity, and misleading definitions of freedom of speech, and a high school notion of popularity, some people believe they're just superior to others, and that their opinions are facts that shall be passed onto others like holy words. That's the nature of not only these forums, but the nature of internet. You can either let it annoy you, or you can simply laugh at it and have fun with your virtual life! -
Driver issues.
Almost 99% of issues with CoH that you think are related to Windows 7 has something to do with graphics drivers.
Try upgrading to new drivers. If you have done so, then try rolling back to a different version. -
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When I saw that, in the land of emoticons, I a was colon capital O!
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This thread was such a fruitful discussion...
"My opinions are never wrong." - MondoCool in a Global Channel
If it wasn't considered griefing, I'd have put that line in my signature a long, long time ago. -
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Quote:Back in the day?!Back in the day, some of the best RP happened in the D. Just sayin'. I mean, when DD was kidnapping Xanatos, Karnal losing her mind, Rakescar being propositioned into his control of his power, hell, Rake going "good guy," Cpt. Starfall attempting to infilitrate the Isles...there was DAMN good RP to be had at the D back in the day!
Some of the best RP -still- happens in Pocket D... -
Somewhat. Because it may discourage new and potentially good (in the general sense of the term 'good') roleplayers from ever attempting to step into Pocket D and breathing a new life into the place.
But you're also somewhat right. -
Quote:1. I can't find a team for the last 2 days.I've searched for the last two days for a team for my level 16 FF defender and have found only one in Steel Canyon.
The only missions people seem to run anymore are ITFs and BNY missions.
Blueside is dead. Discuss
2. I have found one team in the last 2 days.
3. People are running ITFs and BNYs.
Therefore: Blue side is dead.
You win a prize in logic and philosophy, Mondo. -
Quote:Just for the record, I used to be heavily against ERP, Cybersex, and anything in between. But after hearing some logical reasoning, I realized how wrong I was and switched sides.Because that's one of the main things that happens there that bothers people?
Me, I play villains most of the time, so the most of the "under the table" business some don't like happening around their heroes doesn't bug me. Odds are -I- am there to conduct said business anyway.
That's probably why so many people think I'm a giant hypocrite. Oh well. -
Quote:No, I don't know every ERPer in this game. But I do know what distinguishes Erotic Roleplay from Cybersex (something many people fail to grasp). Erotic Roleplay, by nature, happens as a cause of regular roleplay. Two characters, for whatever reason, decide to have sex together. The players can either fade that scene to black, or actually write it out like they would write out a regular RP for enjoyment of all parties involved.You know everyone that ERPs in the game? Just curious since you're acting as the spokesman for all of them.
And we all know that's not the case.
By that definition of Erotic Roleplay, tell me how can one FORCE a child into it.
Now, if I go around Pocket D, and send a random tell to a character "hey i wana **** u!"...now THAT is forcing it upon them. And I don't call that Erotic Roleplay. I don't even call that Cybersex. That's just intrusion of privacy and being creepy. If I start sending someone tells and actively try and seek ways to get sexual satisfaction from my conversation with this person, then that is cybersex. And cybersex between two complete strangers in an online world is immoral not only by government standards, but also by my own morals.
If a child can, and does access pornography and erotic fiction or suggestive themes, then there is no reason to classify Erotic Roleplay outside of that category. Erotic Roleplay is nothing more than erotic fiction written by two amateur writers. Period.
To tell me Erotic Roleplay is a criminal offense is like telling me PvP and text fighting is a criminal offense cause I "killed" that person's character, and that person was underage and should not have been exposed to such material.
And we all know that children do play this game. Yes. It's rated T for teen, but children also play it. Those children are also going against the rating of the game, and in a vague sense, breaking the rules. As a result, they cannot be counted in an argument about the rules. Because if you want to argue that I should be considerate of children who are playing a game they're not supposed to, I would take the liberty of asking YOU to be considerate of ME who is doing something YOU think I'm not supposed to do.
As for the ToS of the game, that's up to the developers and managers of NCSoft and Paragon Studios to decide what they wish to do with Erotic Roleplay. If you want to suggest them a way, write an official letter or protest. Don't go around bashing people and accusing them of being state criminals.
PS: Why is it that every thread about Pocket D eventually turns into an argument about morals of ERP? -
Quote:You do realize that a child SEEKING (Yes, seeking. People who ERP don't go FORCING it on others.) to be exposed to sexual scenes is different than "COMMITTING CRIMINAL SEXUAL ACTS INVOLVING CHILDREN", yes?A more serious argument than that YOU MAY BE COMMITTING CRIMINAL SEXUAL ACTS INVOLVING CHILDREN?
By your argument, any child under the age of consent should also not watch pornography and should never involve him or herself in masturbation.
No ERPer in this game goes to lure children into the act. The game has a T rating. So anyone below that age classification shouldn't be playing the game in the first place. Furthermore, right on the box, it says "Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB".
If YOU are a parent, and you're so worried about your child, then YOU are the one responsible for keeping your child from online communities. Cause there are far more idiots out there thousands of times worse than ERPers. -
Quote:If I may add something. I don't think Jade was targeting people who dislike Pocket D. She was more targeting people who grief Pocket D and fuel the stigma around it. At least that's what I got from their post.Or perhaps as some people in this thread have mention they just don't buy into that style and/or setting of/for roleplaying and when asked they explain such things. Simply because some people have a more conservative view on what they like/dislike does not automatically make a person a raving, overly vocal a-hole.
Though, generalizing all the people who dislike Pocket D into immature, narrow-minded, temperamental or argumentative groups... makes you appear much like the people you are speaking down too. In fact, THAT is why the zone gets its bad name: broad, sweeping generalizations that touch upon your personal opinion on the matter but don't recognize and respect the choices of those you disagree with. -
Quote:I love you! You just said everything I've always wanted to say in such a long time! Thanks!My take on this is pretty simple
- Some people are just immature and never got past the giggling at things pertaining to sex phase ( I.E. early teens )
- Some people are just too narrow minded to consider that even if someone does ERP perhaps they're not the basement dwelling mouth breathing loser they seem to so strongly wish they were
- Some people seem fixated on the whole 'no girls on the internet thing' so much so I question whether the males that say this perhaps aren't gay and hoping for an all male utopia ( IT'S RAININ MEN! )
- People from a certain chan. Nuff said.
- Some are simply talking out their ****. Looking for drama, thriving off drama and arguing/starting trouble just to argue/start trouble because they can't feel self important without it
- The above + Low self esteem = Half the retards who get into arguments on the internet
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Quote:I don't know why. But for some reason, as time passes, more and more people seem to be falling into a mindset that simply because they are allowed to express their opinion, it means their opinion is the truth.Some of you dont like me,and some of you know exactly what im talking about,but its those of you that dont like me,know i speak truth.
Are we changing the definition of opinion to that of "theory" in 2011?
Just recently, I had someone tell me "My opinion is never wrong." in a global channel in the game. REALLY?
Seriously, what's up, people? -
Dispari. I love you so much. So, so much! <3
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Quote:And that's what Pocket D's MEANT to be as an RP hot spot. Your character goes there for a week or two in search of connections. That's WHY I like Pocket D. After you find some connections, friends, enemies, whatever, for your character, then you can migrate from Pocket D into other areas to RP with those connections.Generally, people will go there for a week or two and then migrate back to the usual location(s), but it all depends on who's pushing for it.
Think of it as a "lobby" area for RP... -
I know what it IS...
It's just I was never really interested in it. But I saw the "oatmeal" in the title and couldn't help but drop in and share my favorite "comic" website. :P