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Okay...what does having four sliders for breasts have to do with anything? o.O

CO basically has 4 with "breasts, body mass, chest width, chest depth" all that have an effect on the avatars breasts.

This also allows you to go flat to *facepalm* depending on the player (much like CoH with it's one slider).

And you focus on that, but don't mention all the other body sliders that lets you do so much?

Yeah. I hate it when people force morals on others who may not share the same morals. Like not killing animals for food or clothing? What's up with that? Yet it's still being forced on us!

Basically, saying one shouldn't force morals on people because it's a game and then try to force your own morals, ruins your arguement

Sister Psyche, Ghost Widow, Desdemona, and even some of the popular poster's avatars are more well endowed than the posted artwork.

1) That banking on name recognition only works if people knew Soul Blade = Soul Calibur. I know I didn't. And I find it funny that having the word Soul in the name had people thinking "Oh it must be made by Namco, because it has the word Soul in the name." Eve Online must have been banking on people who played Parasite Eve.

2) If it's insulting to a player due to them using the most scantilizing outfits in promos, they have their own issues. They're also not looking at CoH which used Sister Psyche, Ghost Widow and Desdemona as their advertisement.

Sex sells. Shock effect sells.

Nevermind it doesn't show men off as anything but in improbable physiques. Notice how no one ever says "This game's males are insulting."

http://bns.sgamer.com/shizhuang/ A lot of the costume options (I know a few new ones aren't seen on here) for viewing...not all show off everything.

Also, obviously you haven't checked out the body sliders in Blade & Soul which allows you to get a less endowed figure than you can in CoH.

Not to mention, male and female players alike, played plenty of scantily clad female avatars dressed in nothing but a bikini outfit. Enough so, that I know I was all "o.O Really? Really?" Enough so that when my own mother was all "Ooooo...let me make a character for your game. Now get it to 50 for me!" I replied "I am /not/ going to run around in game in /that/ "

So basically, if an outfit in B&S looks to revealing for someone, there are other options, just like in CoH...which you know...had plenty of revealing outfits made.

3) Personally, I want to see more "M" rating games, as I'm tired of MMOs catering to underage players in every aspect of the game. Of course, as a parent, I'm tired of parents who don't check out what their kids play and then get vocal about it. I know I check out every game I let my daughter play. I check out every show she watches.

4) NCSoft isn't the only publisher that shut down their MMOs.

Maxtrix Online. Star Wars Galaxies. Shut down MMOs made by those not affiliated to NCSoft.

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Now this isn't to say B&S is the game for you (or anyone else). Not all games are for everyone. There's plenty of MMOs I look at the art style used and just sigh to myself. So I understand not wanting to play a game because of it's chosen art style (Black Desert Online, Secret World, LotR, many other MMOs).

Not to mention game mechanics/play may not be for you (and again for anyone else).

I just find a lot of the complaints in the above quoted post to have been said about CoH.

Art style. Game play. Game mechanics. Game controls. PvE. PvP. Ect...ect...all complained about. Even by it's loyal fanbase.

And while not in a revealing outfit, the face of Tabula Rasa was a woman who had the body type people here ***** about often as being "unrealistic", is a game many players here went gah gah over.

Not to mention, CoH might have had a loyal playerbase, it also had a bunch of players who went "F2P! I'll stop paying to play, and not buy anything in the cash shop, as I can live with all it has to offer as F2P! Play the game and never pay a cent!"

Saw it in game, read posts about it here on the forums.

Not to mention a player base that would quit for "THE BRAND NEW GAME!"

And I knew about the game (B&S) coming out years ago, when it was still in concept phase. It was even talked about on the CoH forums untill new forum rules were put into place.

As for the sales, so far it's only been released in Korea. Last I knew it was the #1 played MMO in Korea (I'd have to recheck). It's currently in CBT for China. Can't remember if it's been released in Japan yet (I don't think so, but not 100% sure on this one).

Also, much like TERA, B&S will be "westernized" when released for NA/EU. Thought hey say they're not going to censor it like TERA was.

This isn't to encourage anyone to play the game. May not be a genre one is interrested in. While people keep saying they want a genre other than european style fantasy, it always seems to be the genre that stays popular. :/

But some of the complaints seem silly when one could see the same thing in CoH.

No different than people having to get used to IOs and set bonuses really.

That said, CO does have it's flaws, just as CoH had it's own flaws.

You also don't have that sense of "OMG SUPER" (at least I haven't) that one can get in CoH when it comes to building characters and then soloing AVs.

Hopefully a lot changes gets fixed with the apparent influx of players.

Out of all of CoH's servers, Pocket D was popular on 1 maybe 2 servers. Now you're in a game with no servers, but instances. And CoH just had a unique RP community that I've yet to find in any other MMO.

This isn't to say other MMOs don't have a RP community, but they've all lacked CoH's club scene (which let's be honest, was the butt of a lot of jokes anyways, and most who considered themselves serious RPers avoided...which makes sense, sense half those who RPed in there couldn't 1) follow canon and 2) keep it a respectable night club even without following canon).

You need to get to level 10 before the costume options really unlock, then there's other costume options, and some of those you can earn in game instead of purchasing outright.

CO has improved quite a bit since it's debut, however, people are right, it's not CoH.

If you're looking for a game that is just like CoH, give up now.

Why I asked how much they were wanting for it.

If they said a million dollars, Id say that sounds reasonable if they had no plans to ever do anything with it again.

If they said 20 million dollars, Id say that doesn't sound reasonable if they had no plans to ever do anything with it again.

But I don't know their plans at all, but since they said they were willing to sell the IP but there was no takers, I just wonder why no one would spend the million.

You already bought it. Can't return it. So, wouldn't it be better if you kept playing it, but never bought an in game item, that way you took up space on their servers?

Neither are the "original natives"

DCUO sucks period And a lot of that is because of what you said in the last paragraph.

There's no Invunerability, no Super Reflexes, no Regeneration style defenses in DCUO.

You're basically a Fire Armor, Ice Armor, Traps, ect...character in DCUO.

Add in that character customization sucks to no end in DCUO, and you have a pretty terrible game.

Okay, it does a few things awesome, but it's just a few things, and not enough to make up for all the lacking.

Checked it out at PAX. It's Diablo with Marvel Superheroes.

And yes, you're limited to playing as one of Marvel's superheroes, and not able to create your own :/

Though the list of which characters you could be seemed pretty high!

I'm curious now.

If NCSoft did decide they were done supporting GW2, could ArenaNet keep on producing it without any problems?

Does NCSoft own GW? Or is it like with CoH where NCSoft had to purchase it at some point from Cryptic?

I'd say the difference in this fantasy setting is it's more asian based and less european.

They also say it's less of a grindfest, and they plan to make it even less so for the western audience.

By no means pick up the game if it doesn't appeal to you, but it hasn't even reached NA/EU yet, to know if it's the grindfest you think it is (which they say it isnt).

And if you'd rather not pick it up because it's by NCSoft, don't pick it up for that reason

But I do fail to see the lack of originality. What, because it has some cute animal looking race that's been done before?

The setting looks different than I've seen in other MMOs, have no idea how different the gameplay is. Do you know?

Edit: But I do see it doing poorly in the western market, as I think locking the Force Master behind an all female race or a race of tiny animal people and the Summoner to just a class of tiny animal people, will be what keeps the western audience out.

How many times have we heard on the forums from male players they can't get into playing a female superhero? The same will apply to B&S, and they'll want to play those classes.

If they made it so the Jin at the very least could be all the classes, it might stand a chance.

Well, I'm sorta wondering how well the Vigilante/Rogue Card Packs would sell. I believe the first card packs made lots of money, I would think that would happen again.

Active doesn't mean subcription, when it comes to a F2P model. :/

Also, not all players are going to sign the petition, and most likely don't know where it is to sign.

The vast majority of players, very likely, sighed, realized it was over, and moved on.

Still, with i24 so close, I still think it would of been better to see how it did for the game before shutting down.

I agree that keeping CoH shut down, isn't going to hurt NCSoft in the least. Short term or mid term.

We were a small group, even if Paragon Studios was making a profit.

That said, it likely wouldn't hurt them to sell the IP either.

However, I don't think all of us thought they'd keep the game going forever. I know I didn't. But I did think they'd keep it going as long as it maintained a profit with reasonable updates, as it has been doing.

I knew it'd end some day, but I was sure it wouldn't be untill we saw there was no new updates coming for a long time.