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Quote:1) True, but they had to make that roll every turn.Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
As I recall
1. Fortitude. Fortitude allows you to soak aggravated damage, including that caused by sunlight. According to page 302 of the Vampire 20th Anniversary edition, the difficulty for soaking sunlight while "fully protected by heavy clothes, sunglasses, gloves, and a wide-brimmed hat" is only 5, which isn't hard to make.
2. The Children of Osiris had access to the discipline Bardo and Ra's Blessing which was a ritual that allows the Child of Osiris to temporarily walk in daylight.
3. There's a bloodline called the Kiasyd who have access to a discipline called Mytherceria; at level 9, you can resume mortality for a while, which would make you immune to sunlight damage while it was in effect.
4. Then there was that one Obtenebration power Tchernabog: Which temporarily blots out the sun in your area.
So I don't find it genre breaking to see a V:tm vampire out in daylight.
2) Very hard to obtain and very rare clan that to just have access to it, just to have access to it, meant one didn't really follow the V:tM lore.
3) Level 9 Disciple is a 4th Generation Vampire. Again very rare. EXTREMELY RARE!
4) Again, very rare.
Just like Protean had a level 9 Disciple to turn into the Human Torch.
I'm not saying it wasn't possible, I'm saying if you followed the lore of V:tM andhad them in CoH...with all those fire using enemies/heroes...they wouldn't last long
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Ghost Widow saved and redeemed.
Ms Liberty shown to be the awesome of awesome of heroes.
BrandX known throughout the city as the best hero ever and everyone saying "We have no idea how, but she is!" >_>;; What? -
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Sadly it's art style seems just as bad as the regular Elder Scrolls. :/
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Quote:It's a level of detail that people have been begging for in CoH.Originally Posted by Father Xmas
I will be the first to admit that the character designer in Blade & Soul for female characters could double as the customizer for a RealDoll.
Yes the narrator in the videos I linked to a few pages back was a little too exited that the patch allowed you full camera movement control and zoom in the creator. The new feature to allow you to mail JPGs of your character to friends who can then import them into the editor for their own enjoyment (I assume they embed all the character creator info into the JPG metadata section) seems a little creepy. Creepy like finding out your friend has 500 nearly naked, anime stylized, PVC plastic figures occupying an entire wall in his living room.
It doesn't help that the default sample clothing during creation is essentially skimpy lingerie. Sure you can switch to other sample outfits during creation, I think the default male outfit looks as if they have a towel around their waist.
While we can do some of the same things in our creator, ours seems very clinical as if editing a plastic Barbie where the character in the B&S editor seems more alive. It blinks. It talks. The hair, clothing and breasts moves as you rotate the model. There are a few poses you can put them in. Then the shear amount of detail you can tweak. Iris size (so you don't have to have anime eyes), color and type, pupil size, eyebrow shape and position. Eye and lip makeup. A couple dozen attributes in the body from basic height, hip width, leg length to finger length, thigh and calf length. I wouldn't be surprised if it had foot size and allowed you to adjust the collar bone and shoulder blades.
And all of this loving rendered using the Unreal 3 engine. And the really disturbing thing as I think about it, you will not be able to appreciate most of these customization while playing. Only if your character is standing around so you can pan and zoom in with the camera.
Again, this is just the body and face shape and detail. Clothing is entirely another thing, handled by the standard buy/equip/inventory system. In our game, clothes make the character. It's the nature of iconic heroes/villains. In B&S, it's the body wearing the clothes and the level of detail is scary.
If CoH used that same default character model as B&S, then allowed them to dress up in tights, body armor, robes, tech armor, and everything else CoH has to offer to dress your avatar in, people wouldn't think anything wrong with it.
As for the sharing of character models, already do that in CoH when I get into the costume file, copy and paste the file and then PM it to a friend. It's how we had perfect twins
But that may be the difference in mentality. I see the available options and detail and think "Yay! Character looks how I want them to look!" while others think "This makes me want to cyber."
Though, I wouldn't say that's a matter of the detail, as there have been players like that in every MMO. From the lowest detail to the highest detail. Truth is, that type of player would think that way no matter the detail in the MMO. CoH, a much older and less detailed MMO, proved that every day.
What I hope, is that people actually keep to the genre of B&S. One thing that annoyed me was genre breaking in CoH. Not only that, they broke the genre they put in CoH *glares at the Vampire: the Masquerade guilds* "FIRE! DAYLIGHT! These killed vampires in V:tM!"
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A couple (just a couple I swear!) of my lost connections was due to me hitting the power switch. >_>;;
And sometimes my RP was based around just being annoying because I saw people would be okay with something from one player and then complain about when another player RPed the same thing/way/what have you.
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I gave up on the game being saved when the petition didn't work and it became obvious NCSoft wasn't going to change their minds.
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Eh, not drawn in by the art style.
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1) Scrapper. To me they are the superhero comic AT (brutes and stalkers do as well) in terms of defense and offense.
2) Truthfully, with 8 years of playing, I was still looking for the one combo that made me happy. It's why I rerolled my namesake so often. Dual Pistols/Time Manip may have come the closest if it wasn't for the lack of mez protection and the sad damage, but it gave me the Dual Pistols and Regen/Reflexes I wanted. I had such high hopes for i24!!!
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Quote:CoH has tights so tight people said they looked painted onOriginally Posted by Xieveral
Desdemona's outfit isn't that bad. Sister Psyche's tights are another story, its not so bad from the waist down but the pattern on the torso is suggestive but its still a full-body outfit with some transparent bits *shrug*
Going off the promotional material, B&S has tights too, not in patterns that suggest nipple pasties but they're so tight the characters may as well be nude.
Its hard to get a firsthand impression of the game beyond the porno promos when its currently Korean-only. You can't just fake up an account either, account registration requires proof of citizenship.
And you're right, unless you go out looking for more info outside of promo material/posters, it could look like that. -
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Quote:Their rating is pending because it hasn't been finalized. So, untill it's brought over and finalized in NA, it's rating is pending.Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU
If the game is rated based *purely* on the promotional artwork, then the ESRB rating is *not* doing its job.
It should be based on the content of the game.
If there are rules and regulations concerning what you can and cannot show for promotional artwork, then that is it. *shrugs*
To be honest, I would be more worried if they were shooting for the "T for Teen" rating and trying to do this by the method that you are suggesting. However, as far as I am aware, they are aiming for the "M for Mature" rating, and if that still has rules and regulations in terms of what you can and cannot show in promotional artwork, then so be it.
Complain to the ESRB board about that problem. NCsoft are just following the rules.
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Quote:Yeah. Physics everyone kept saying they want. Updated graphics everyone saying they want.Originally Posted by LadyGrimrose
Sorry to despoil the Soul Blade issues, but in fact the game is, in fact, a fighting game MMO set in a world very similar to Soul Calibur. There are a number of fighting game players in our group and all of them had the same reaction to the name after the initial "expert" had his say. What they got ticked off about is the gross similarities between the two concepts. So to say Brand Recognition isn't there, it is.
Risque in CoH, yes, but it wasn't "in your face" advertised that way. Desdemona and Sister Psyche, ok I'll give you that, but the outfits showcased in the actual advertising for B&S make it part of the marketing. The physics are also on display in the marketing and there are zero physics brought into play in CoH where that aspect is concerned.
As to other MMOs closing, sure, but the sheer number under NcSoft is ridiculous. It warrants caution. As to people losing their jobs, if the game does poorly they will lose said jobs anyway under NcSoft.
Sorry, again, I'm part of a group that plays a LOT of MMOs and we will no longer be giving NcSoft any money. And please don't bring up "You trusted them with CoH" again. We trusted Paragon Studios Devs and they were treated as poorly as we were, in the end. I have zero faith in NcSoft and if they want out of the EU and US markets so badly then they should make the transition and go. They've made it clear and that alone will keep people from trusting anything they put out.
And I didnt say people trusted NCSoft. But without NCSoft, we never would've had a Paragon Studios. So they saved it for quite a few years. Without them, that wouldn't have happened.
Yes. Still sucks they decided to shut it down though
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Quote:Bypassing the rating system? Because they choose not to have the artwork on the box be the most revealing outfit in the game, makes it bypassing the rating system?Originally Posted by Ogi
One thing to B&S's credit is the outfits are items but they don't affect stats so you can chose your look without having to run around in a micro-bikini just because it has better stats than your full plate armor suit.
That said, bypassing the ratings system is a pretty sleazy move.
Market it for what it is. Let it tank on its own merits.
It's being rated M for Mature. How is that bypassing the rating system?
Should CoH have had the most revealing outfit it could get as it's cover art, so parents knew "Hey! Look! You're kids can make or run with people who WILL make this outfit!"
But, yes, if it tanks, let it tank because people don't enjoy the game for all that it is.
Though, it'd also be nice to have people remember it was NCSoft who kept CoH up longer, when Cryptic was going to shut it down.
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Quote:Yeah. Always nice to see people get upset about people losing their jobs, and then try to end the jobs of others. *thumbsup*Originally Posted by Golden Girl
It's a sleazy game - it's to be expected.
It doesn't hurt to give it a little push in the right direction though
I'm curious, you say sleazy game. Have you even bothered to do more checking up on the game than "Oh! I saw promotional art!"
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Quote:Or standing around in AP. Or running iTrials. But yes, Virtue D did it a lotOriginally Posted by GreatRock
Virtue catgirls. Also, The D in Virtue. Also, Virtue.
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Quote:Mostly because I think they say that only to appease people.Originally Posted by Starsman
I am curious why you feel so strongly about denying the mature orientation of the art when NCSoft themselves admit the entire art direction is very risqué.
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Quote:Those sliders do effect other things. Hell, my main uses the body mass to the max, and you wouldn't know it due to the other sliders.Originally Posted by Ogi
I haven't watched the videos Father Xmas linked yet but,
Breast facing? alignment? aiming? whatever the appropriate term that's a bit much.
Three of those sliders you listed in CO affect things besides breasts. Body mass affects the whole body, the chest sliders work on the whole trunk, just not the breasts.
*edit: I wonder if males have sliders to pick which way their bits of anatomy are hanging in B&S. If you can adjust that for the female dangly bits it'd be misandrist to not provide males with the same option.
While I'm not sure if there needs to be so many sliders for boobs. What I do like about it? MORE CUSTOMIZATION!
Yes, they have starting points that seems to leave people going "OMG!" but they don't bother to check out that they can change all that with the options available to them. This includes leg length, chest, arms, ect ect.
I look at B&S's customization, and wish CoH had it! And if NCSoft didn't shut down CoH, most of the player base would be saying the same thing about it's customization option. Not to mention all that, and have the fingers they were looking for
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Quote:Coming from someone who's avatar made use of the boob slider.Originally Posted by Golden Girl
NCSoft is quite vulnerable on the whole Boobs and Shame front - it's a good angle of attack to hurt them.
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Quote:So you get upset when a company fires them. Then wish they lose their job again? o.OOriginally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Zwill! How could you?!
Unless you plan to destroy them from the inside out. In which case, get on with it, Hero! It's up to you to cleanse this filth from the gaming world!
No, no I am not kidding. EA deserves to crash and burn almost more than NCSoft do...