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Then why do you want to be patroned to a villain?

No, blue side has equal access, since they can go redside. Everyone has the same options, and all can get there. And what are you losing out on exactly? Nothing. Do missions, get xp.

Redside doesn't have to do tips. True! Since when did running tips ever become hard?

That's been about my experience with it. All the clicking for TC, SR, the Defense, heals if it gets to bad, plus DP's own lower damage.

I think it could be improved if TC's effect lasted as long as SR's (30seconds), so it'd be a bit less clickie. But Im not really sure how much of an improvement that would be, but not likely much.

Now see, I haven't been bothered by the end crashes of Nukes for blasters, but I have for my Defs/Corrs. And the arrival of Judgement hasn't made me for a second think "OMG NUKES SUCK" just because every AT can get them.

The fact that every AT can get them, means those with ranged sets get TWO Nukes. So the idea of "OH NO CHANGE NUKES BECAUSE OF JUDGEMENT" doesn't make for a sound arguement imo.

Change it because end crashes suck? That's a sound arguement. However, then I look at the weapon sets and think "wasn't that kind of their draw for their nukes...oh hey you have to redraw...oh hey themetic...oh hey whatever" I dont know, it just seems like weapon sets might lose out with any change to nukes (well, maybe not archery).

Prebaking Stamina with 2 extra slots though is a good idea! Gives the extra slots (2 instead of 3), but that's still extra slots that I know I can use on almost every character.

I had the same double take on that one!

And when I walked in on "The Deadpool", a Dirty Harry movie, playing and saw Jim Carrey!

Totally not against those ideas either. Though, I fear Armor/Blast would be suckie damage, when I never really felt range was a defense outside of hover blasting and even then you needed defense to back it up.

My suggestion for Dual Pistols Epic Pool I don't think would require all that much more extra time outside of some testing though. Obviously I don't know for sure, but the animations are done.

Most people I've talked with don't seem to think the minimum is 36C as you seem to think. Also, where you put the sliders has a bit of effect on the look of the size. However, some of that might be due to all the various monitors/graphic settings/ect in play. I know when I played CoH on a computer that wasn't my own, my main did not look the same at all.

Though now that you said it, maybe they're trying to keep people from playing as children that young for some obvious reasons.

I was fully supporting it none the less, I'd make use of it as I've got plenty of characters who'd go lower, all i did was disagree with the use of "realistic" in your statement.

More so when C makes up the largest percentage (in america) today. Sooo...realistically, minimum slider is realistic as it's the average, which you were saying it wasn't.

But, again, does Dink even have a hand in that part of the character creator? I was under the impression that Dink was strictly involved with the outfits, not the body scales, and so the suggestion seems more apt for a different thread.

I like your suggestion, gives the animations, and you're right, it was purely my favored animations of the set. But then, I was the one making the suggestion.

Though, something to do is switch it around for the effects.

ES animation decent damage ST Blast.

Then DW's animation for the mez attack (I just like DW's animation more than Suppressive Fire).

I suggest this just because of the two attacks, ES's animation I think calls for the damage more. Double Tap could also work as any type of mez...maybe immobilze as you dodge, duck down and shoot them in the leg?

But you're right, I didn't think about Shield Defense. Personally, I say go with it. Shield Defense can't use Dual Wield. Just how it goes, no need to worry about it imo. I'm sure there's some concepts that would like it, but we know there's technical limits for it, just like we can't pair claws and shield.

And well yeah, trying to get the animations I love into limit. But this is me trying to get that martial artist/dual pistol using melee type I've basically been wanting since I picked up the game.

Could just come up with a Gun Fu set for Melee, that has no more ranged attacks than any other set, but even with sets like claws, KM, Spines having multiple ranged attacks, that always seems to go "Noooo" with a few vocal people.

I saw what Leo was saying. I can see how he might think I was going for some power epic. I really wasn't. Also, it's Dual Pistols, playing multiple Dual Pistols, I wouldn't think it's really that powerful.

However, I do think giving the Epic Pool Hail of Bullets, and basically making it a clone of Spring Attack is a good idea, and not over powered at all.

For one, one would need to draw the pistols everytime to use it. It also to my knowledge would have a longer animation.

Would it be an additional AOE? Yes. But seeing as how any melee could take Spring Attack for additional AOE, I really don't see that being a problem.

I also don't see why the sets have to mirror each other. They already have sets that don't stick to the common Hold/Immobilize/Range ST/Range AOE/Utility Power.

One of the reasons I lowered the range of ES in my suggestion was because I was looking to think of things to help keep it balanced. If lowering the damage is a way to do it, do it. But I agree, KD helps with the theme of the power (KB would seem more comicy tho, wouldn't it?)

I was also picking my suggested powers for the Epic based purely on animations.

So with that, a new suggestion that can combine things a bit.

1) Double Tap - Dual Wield Animation (1.67sec animation) - ST Disorient - Pistols Level Damage with 9.75 END/10s Recharge/80ft Range

2) Executioner's Shot - ES Animation (of course) - ST KD (I don't say KB because many melee types hate KB, but I could live with it, could even give a chance for additional KB and this is merely suggested because Leo mentioned theme of the power ) - 20-40ft Range (lower range is merely a suggestion if perhaps it is to powerful) - Dual Wield Level Damage with 10.66 END/32 Second Recharge

There, two single taget mez powers, Disorient and KD.

3) Bullet Rain - Double the END/RCH of Bullet Rain - Making it in the 2nd tier isn't bad really, as this suggestion is meant to keep the Epic Power Pool the same for ALL Melee ATs, and Brutes/Tankers have AOEs in the 2nd Teir.

4) One With The Gun - Passive +ToHit (or +ACC)/ENDREC or +DMG or nothing and maybe +Perception.

Ranged AOE and a Utility Power

5) Hail of Bullets - Same stats as Spring Attack, no teleporting, maybe get rid of the +DEF aspect. Can even lower the radius.

It's HAIL OF BULLETS! It's the animation of animations! Okay admittedly, just imo. Why not let this be the set more about adding damage, that in the end tends to be found to be highly resistant? Not to mention, if people can pick up Spring Attack and it's not considered OP, I don't see what giving the option in an Epic Pool makes for being OPed.

I don't think we'll see this suggestion used by the min/maxer, with it being lethal damage, longer animations, and redrawing everytime it's used. Even with having the chance at two additional AOEs.

What I do think we'll see is people using it to fill in concepts! While getting a different experience from the typical epic pools.

Able to have their gunfu! Or possibly the martial artist cowboy! What have you!

Also, seeing the list of powers I gave it, could also give it to MMs for an Epic set! Thug MM's might like it as well (but of course the option would be there for all MMs).

5 ATs 1 new Epic Power Pool! Animations are done for it!

Want to go farther?

Give it to Widows and Soldiers as well who lack an Epic Power Pool! Fits their theme easily and bumps the one Epic Power Pool to 7 ATs!

Sell it for 100-400 points (Id pay up to 800 myself). Or sell it to F2P and free for VIPs! There's way to get return for recycling animations while giving a new Epic Pool that helps people obtain much wanted concepts.

Must be sarcasm, considering their secret identity gets shown enough in the films to havetheir face seen, and as previously mentioned, V for Vendetta.

Saying that, couldn't want just say "had enough comic book hero movies the last two years" or even "Weren't their aliens invading earth in Avengers"?

I'll have to double check this in game when servers are back up. I don't recall the attack shaving a chance to immobilize except for Impale.

And according to mids, Impale is the only one that has a chance to Immobilize and is the only attack that can slot immobolize enhancements.

Lower the damage then. I'm not really trying to pay for power.

What I'm going for is purely cosmetic. I love the looks of DW (dodge and blast!), ES (it's ES!), and Hail of Bullets!

Though, something to remember, there would be redraw no matter what set you pair it with, as one will always have to draw the pistols.

Bullet Rain is added in because I love it's animation and it gives a ranged AOE *shrug*

Also, why make the set exactly like the others? Body Mastery I consider nothing like the others. So why not another?

Also, my idea is more intent to fill in concept gaps for many. "Hey, I have pistols as well as sword/fists/ect"

But you'll also note I said I was more than willing to go with your suggestion, but I would like to see Hail of Bullets for the animation! Really now...LOVE LOVE LOVE THAT ANIMATION!

Only Impale has an immobilize. So, you're not likely to stack it.

It's dps isn't really that bad, but it might not be seen by many when it requires using the AOEs to obtain it (plus adding in Quills).

Castle said before, and was stated in this thread already, if it was changed, it might not be for the best.