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Originally Posted by Agent White

Well I think the biggest disappointment is that had Ledger lived the movie probably would have been quite different from what we got. Not that I think the Joker would have been an integral part, but Heath's death certainly affected the script writing.

Originally Posted by Mashuguna

I had these in mind specifically for my staff scrapper (just with, um, normal sized female anatomy):

Originally Posted by DarkGob

Not until we get this one:

Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

It wasn't practical in game design terms, and a shield throw power would probably have violated one of Marvel's trademarks.

Unless you can run a search and find even so much as one character other than Captain America that has ever used a thrown shield as a weapon. I searched at least 25 pages deep in Google and found none.

Since Cap is the only character out there who does that, it's a safe bet that Marvel has it trademarked and would throw a fit if we had added a power like that. A shield charge or shield bash is one thing, those are common maneuvers with a shield, throwing a shield is a gimmick of one specific character and would probably be off limits.

Originally Posted by VoodooGirl

TBH I haven't heard the community, at large, crying out for Golden/Silver Age costumes either.

Originally Posted by Arcanaville

Which is basically saying you wish the devs wrote an MMO to your specifications. I think that's what most people who claim to want a CoH2 actually want: a game written to their specifications. The probability is virtually zero that a CoH2 would actually do most of the things people expect it to do.

Originally Posted by MentalMaden

While I enjoy the deep analysis, I can sum it up concisely (at least my perspective). Make a good Superman movie and people will flock to it. Give us the same dated, corny, uninspired drivel and people will continue to love [insert other comic hero] instead because they've had better movies. He doesn't have to be the outsider and all emo. He can be all powerful, that's ok too. Just make it well.

BUT! Give him an actual threat that doesn't involve some scrawny billionaire with the deus ex machina of kryptonite. Make him get into a good fight with a superpowered enemy that will actually challenge him (they don't have to win). It really doesn't have to involve an invasion of (easily CGI'd) alien hoards like almost every action movie uses now days. One really powerful baddie will do. You can make a good superhero movie, that is compelling and smart that doesn't involve overanalyzing the hero's state of mental health and does involve good action as well.

The reason we haven't seen a good Superman movie, is because nobody has made one. (Nostagia of the Reeve's first two aside of course. I say they are dated, but I do realize some people still love them so I'll give you that)

Originally Posted by Agent White

Actually I think he spelled it out pretty well. You can only do so much with what you're handed and Bruce dumped a -ton- of capital into the fusion reactor project then just boxed it up. So there was absolutely no return on it. Thus he hamstrung Fox with a colossally 'bad' investment.

Originally Posted by Caemgen

I liked the movie, but not enough where issues didn't bother me during the film. If I truly love a film I won't even notice nitpicky stuff, I'll be too engrossed in the film... But this one I was all but looking for niticks.

Money issues... Really? He took 8 years off to do absolutely nothing? Couldn't even keep up on company issues? How pathetic is this guy? And he's supposedly super paranoid and ready for any situation but he doesn't set up a trust fund for the orphange, just cuts a check every month? He doesn't have a hundred different hidden bank accounts?? And he goes so broke so fast the turn his ights off immediately? As any poor person in this country... Don't happen. Same with the impounding of vehicles. I mean seriously.

Bruce Wayne gives up? First to go into seclusion. Then after returning to go into hiding?? And I do not buy he set up someone else to take up his mantle. Yeah, this Robin gets directions to the bat cave but so what? He has no resources to pay it's electric bill. He also doesn't have the training to do what Batman did. All in all, he's setting that guy up to be killed.

Alfred quits? Huzzuh?? No. Almost as ludicrous as Wayne quitting.

Oh... And Robin knew he was Batman because of a look in his eye? And that's all it took? Sorry, silly. Stupid and silly. Mainly stupid.



But the movie didn't suck. And Hathaway as Catwoman, imo, was awesome. I thought she was amazing. I would go see a Hathaway Catwoman movie in a heartbeat.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger

This is understood, and as stated further up the thread, has been communicated to the team.

Originally Posted by CentralNexus

Sounds like someone DOESN'T want the usual Hero-Grade spandex any more

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

The trouble comes when you consider that we can never really agree on what the "good" parts are and what the "bad" parts are about this game. Some people insist the game is too easy and we want more challenge, so that's a bad part. I like the game BECAUSE it's easy and lets me solo with a relatively slapdash build, so to me that's a good part. I consider an intricate and involved story to be one of the best parts about this game, yet others (chiefly Venture) talk as though nothing in the game's story is worth a crap so that sounds like a bad part.

In general, I agree with you that when you get "this game with all the good stuff kept and all the bad stuff removed" may well turn out something completely different from what people imagine it as. And I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of the stuff we really like is at the same time really damaging to the game and the development team's ability to expand it.

And here are a few good examples:



It also showed me that "better" graphics don't necessarily make the game look better. The prevalence of reflective costume pieces that don't take colour well, the design theme shift towards more over-detailed "realistic" costume pieces and the HIDEOUS strain on my system are all factors that some days make me wish we hadn't made the game "prettier."



This is an idea I will always oppose under all circumstances, just because I've seen what it entails. I HATE it when animations are split between the lower and upper halves of a model because it makes them lose all feeling of weight behind them. It makes melee combat especially look like people fighting hand-to-hand while sitting down on wheeled swivel chairs that they roll around the battlefield. Human (and humanoid) posture while standing up involves the entire body. Kinetic firearms "kick," so a shooter must brace to combat recoil. That sort of thing. I've seen games that do combat on the move, and unless it's a FPS game where you can't see your feet, it has always looked horrible.



This is another thing that scares me. If by "the genre" you mean comic books, then I feel this is the worst thing that could happen to City of Heroes from a storytelling or aesthetic standpoint. Right now, the game has a very "anything goes" type of environment that's accommodating to comic book enthusiasts, but isn't alienating to people like me who don't really care much for comic books. In fact, back in 2004 when I was considering buying the game, one of my primary concerns was how true this game would be to comic books, because all I wanted was an RPG in a contemporary setting as opposed to a fantasy one. I didn't want a comic book. I've seen other games try to pull off being a "comic book game" and the results have been gravely disappointing.

If by "the genre" you mean MMOs, then that's even worse. I can deal with a game with a bad setting, but a game with annoying insufferable gameplay is much less likely to keep me around. I've often said I'm still with City of Heroes mostly because this is the MMO which has the least amount of annoying irritating **** that I have to deal with (less so with Incarnates forcing me mess with Inventions, but I guess it was too good to last before). Pretty much the last thing I want to see happen to City of Heroes is for it to become more like other MMOs, by which I mean more like WoW. In a day and age where MMOs are sold based on "has PvP, has crafting, has auction house, has loot, has raids, has guilds" rather than any part of its artistic vision, anything that's NOT like WoW or Lineage II (the two major frameworks these days), the more I'm likely to enjoy it. Too bad that aside from City of Heroes, I really haven't seen one like that.

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All of this is not to pick an argument, Rian, so much as to point out that we, as a community, will never be able to agree on what makes the game good and what makes it bad.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

Do a character database wipe and see how well that argument holds up. Yes, some of us have played other games. I have a hard time imagining those of us who've been here for eight years and sunk thousands upon thousands of hours being willing to start over in a new game full time, however.

Originally Posted by Kirsten

I'd like to see CoL fully ported, or at least ported as well as possible. There are frustratingly few cross-dressing options.

What? Heroic Transvestite is a perfectly valid character archetype!

Originally Posted by Mashuguna

I've recently gotten into anime - i know, I'm a little late. Anyways, I like some of the looks and colors, especially for my staff scrapper.

Question: does anime translate well into CoH?

I've tried to make several costumes based off some of the anime characters I like and they look...odd.

Anyone able to make these kinds of anime martial arts looks work in CoH?

Originally Posted by Neuronia

They call 'im Screecherman in these parts Yonny!



Immediately wanted to see, then saw Christopher Nolan and imagined Superman being filmed through extra foggy, darky dark lenses with everyone in a state of depression.

As for Superman and super heroes in general...won't go on a huge rant here, but here's the convo we had after seeing Green Lantern:

Me: So he has this ring that gives him a godmode right?
Friend: Yeah...
Me: So why doesn't he just win?
Friend: Win?
Me: Right, win. He can create ANYTHING. Why doesn't he just magic up 15 Playboy bunnies, his favourite pizza, the best car in the world and then go to Zurich and force the Gnomes to give him all the money?
Friend: Well, he's a hero...
Me: So he's stupid? Why wouldn't you do stupid broken things with your power, especially with no game or external limitations? Who is going to stop him outside of the Green Lantern Corps, who view him as a deity, or that Yellow Fear Guy who is countered by just having a plane throw green-tinted water all over the place?
Friend: You've played too many RPGs for your own good.