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Originally Posted by h0j

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Originally Posted by Ghost Falcon

Hey folks,

With the release of the "Issue 18: Overview" today, I wanted to address some questions that would naturally arise within the PvP community regarding the return of the Cathedral of Pain.

Previously the Cathedral of Pain was used to acquire Items of Power which were instrumental in Base Raiding. The initial implementation of the CoP was exploitable and ultimately removed. We have always wanted to revisit the CoP and return it to something players could participate in, and with Issue 18 we will be doing just that.

The new implementation of the Cathedral of Pain gives the choice of a number of rewards to players, but it does not contain Items of Power.

Base Raiding is currently on hold and not being actively worked on. We understand that this may disappoint some of you in the PvP community, but we wanted to tell it to you straight to minimize any confusion or false hope that Base Raiding would be addressed in this new iteration of the Cathedral of Pain.

Thanks,

Ghost Falcon

Originally Posted by Sneaky_Prophet

Where is Taruko Joe? We are adding him too.

Originally Posted by Sneaky_Prophet

Dex, join whatever the dumb name of the new U2BG is.

Originally Posted by perilX

Divine @-Divine

Originally Posted by macskull

Break Free, Emerge, Escape, Iron Will, Strength of Will, Clear Mind, Dispersion Bubble, Sonic Dispersion, Clarity, Thaw, Forcefield Generator, Increase Density, Antidote, Obsidian Shield, Static Shield, Power Surge, Plasma Shield, Unyielding, Unstoppable, Integration, Moment of Glory, Practiced Brawler, Indomitable Will, Strength of Will, Wet Ice, Rooted, Granite Armor, White Dwarf, Black Dwarf, Entropy Shield, Domination, Kuji-in Rin, Wolf Spider Armor, Crab Spider Armor Upgrade, Fortification, Bane Spider Armor Upgrade.

These are all powers that when used intelligently negated the "OPness of the Dom AT." If you didn't bring Break Frees against a mezzing AT, you were screwed, and that's your own fault for not preparing. If you ran out of Break Frees in a match, you weren't putting enough pressure on the Dom.

That bit about "not relying on one type of inspiration" was gold, makes me feel glad I don't have to bring a tray of greens to matches. Oh wait, I do.

Originally Posted by Neeto

Do people think im a fan of i13 or something? lol im not. Anyways i knew exaclty what happened in i13 saw it comming from PMs i got from Castle way back in i11 when he acknowledged the Flaws, Buggs, and certain OPness in the Dom AT. Since he knew it was a waste of time to fix certain issues then i knew he had something planned that when changed those issues would be addressed (I reasoned the only way for him to do it was to breakdown the whole system). I also had a feeling guys like peritus, rystorm, Ajax, lab, etc. would leave the game since this change practically broke down competitive arena PvP (reason why people left cuz of i13 is irrelavant now so why am I gonna play into this again??). So I'm gonna stop here, there's not a lot of people who know me anymore and i like to stay on the downlow as the "nobody noob who doesn't know shitz about PvP"

Originally Posted by Neeto

stop whining about i13. yeah we lost a lot of pros but look at us now with fight clubbing in sirens lol. CoP is back this will make me stronger for a few days in zones yay w/e. Honestly if you can't hack how crappy you think pvp is now or before, leave the game; if you like killing noobs like i do play some more. The day i can't kill in pvp anymore is the day ill be leaving and killing is all i care about or seeing things get killed before i get killed is ALL i care about. end of story close this thread before we have to read more effin' lame whining.

Edit: i break up fight clubs every chance i get especially when they are low HP thats since FCers dont have phase lol. (so figure it out dipzits i was being sarcastic above)

Originally Posted by Phillygirl

I wonder if the dev's ever get creeped out by the fanboi's that follow them into threads cause they stalked them in the dev's digest. That's only explanation for badge questions on the PvP forum.

Sad thing is base raids did successfully what they said they wanted I13 PvP to do which was interest non PvP'rs in PvP. Base raiding was my first PvP experience. They where beyond fun and I miss them. I really hope they will be brought back regardless of any PvE trial connection.

For those that did follow the dev post here and have a hard time understanding why the community as a whole would be so rude to a simple announcement i13 PvP changes where pushed through even after the dev's where told they would ruin PvP. They where told this in an intelligent and polite way and where still ignored. So i13 went through and poof went the PvP community and no it probably wasn't large enough to even make them blink subscription wise. But now those left are still trying to enjoy PvP though it's retarded, and yes they are angry and ignored with every issue since so getting frustrated and bitter.

Unfortunately it's loose/loose since by being angry/rude the dev's are less likely to want to help the PvP community by fixing PvP, and when they tried to be polite they where ignored anyway.

Originally Posted by Frosticus

The OP was trolling.

Originally Posted by Frosticus

You don't honestly believe what you are saying do you? Single month subscriptions are only one payment option. A reasonable person would expect a steady decline rather than a spike when something upsets a small portion of the player base. Considering we were told this was just phase one and they made it sound like they weren't going to ditch us like a prom night dumpster baby. I'm sure quite a few people hung around taking a wait and see approach.

I know a number of people that canceled with pre-paid durations at that time, but that would not be reflected in a "steep dropoff". But it would be represented in a steady decline when their tickets come due and even after x number of months the devs couldn't win them back.

The only thing that is certain is that when i13 hit live the pvp population went "poof". Whether they canceled immediately and all utilized single month payment plans is uncertain, but unlikely. They however, did stop pvp'ing. They could also be like me, where I just moved over to pvp, but am unhappy with their decisions involving pvp and as such would never recommend this game to anyone. Which is not a good thing from a business point of view. I stay because I'm so invested in it.

Additionally, if we employ actual logic which I understand might be tough, it is safe to conclude that many pvp'ers were using anything but month to month because so many of them were running multiple accounts.

That is what happens when you drop a bomb on the entire populace. What happened here is when you drop a bomb on a portion of the populace.

Originally Posted by macskull

I like how my posts get deleted simply because I use actual published numbers to prove someone else wrong. That's cool, I guess. I somehow have this feeling that Mod12 was hired to peruse the forums and delete anything PvP-related that came across as negative.

Originally Posted by Ghost Falcon

Hey folks,

With the release of the "Issue 18: Overview" today, I wanted to address some questions that would naturally arise within the PvP community regarding the return of the Cathedral of Pain.

Previously the Cathedral of Pain was used to acquire Items of Power which were instrumental in Base Raiding. The initial implementation of the CoP was exploitable and ultimately removed. We have always wanted to revisit the CoP and return it to something players could participate in, and with Issue 18 we will be doing just that.

The new implementation of the Cathedral of Pain gives the choice of a number of rewards to players, but it does not contain Items of Power.

Base Raiding is currently on hold and not being actively worked on. We understand that this may disappoint some of you in the PvP community, but we wanted to tell it to you straight to minimize any confusion or false hope that Base Raiding would be addressed in this new iteration of the Cathedral of Pain.

Thanks,

Ghost Falcon

Originally Posted by je_saist

and yet subscriptions didn't drop...

funny that.

Originally Posted by __Divine__

Private message me the end result of that conversation PF if you don't mind...i was at the range yesterday so was to tired to get on.

Originally Posted by Vexington

Listen, get a BBFL, then you can attempt to stop me from telling said BBFL what to do.

Originally Posted by Vexington

Was busy away from a comp. Don't question me, Mr. Heals.

Even Midget Pr0n took a backseat. Just happens, albeit rarely for me. ~_^

Originally Posted by Vexington

Hurry up and get back. I have no reason to log in anymore. Don't shaft me. In this way, anyway.

Originally Posted by Vexington

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!