BlazingTiger

Due to time issues and lack of interest during the week I am going to only run a Saturday CoP from now on. It seems most people have interest in a hero side run so untill more interest is shown for villain side we will only be running hero CoPs. We wil also be running these at a different time that works better for me.

We will meet in IP at 4PST/7EST Any SG interested in hosting and has members we can run it from their base if no other SG shows we will be using mine. This will require people to join the SGto lead teams. I ask that everyone who shows up to have read the guide posted here on the Virtue forums. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=237397

These will be weekly runs and I encourage people to continue to show up after they get the badge for their main character. Without a few practiced people this trial is infinatly harder.

i dont drink the enriche im a member of the...Grammar Resistance!

Hey everyone I was going to run a CoP tonight as a make up for last nights run. Unfortunatly I forgot I had plans for tonight. Will still run one next week. I will see you then.

Yes Je...thats why we are pointing out why we believe it is a misguided idea to add that change. If you dont speak out you dont get heard.

I am inclined to agree. Ran two CoPs back to back and managed with 1 bio and one chem so Im not worried about the change as much as Im upset THAT was the issue that needed to be delt with first.

Yes I have seen. I have some words for the devs...but i will keep them between me and them

As someone who leads regular Pug style CoPs I can say even on PuG teams I find they nukes to be a crutch. I know I and many others really wanted to not use any temps. Unfortunatly grabbing the crutch out from someone that is still hobbling isnt kind. I think the "Big Red" AV will still be doable. I think untill the devs fix the only affecting self issue this trial will be like smacking against a brick wall for far too many players. This will leave a bad taste in many players mouth and there is not even any incentive to run this. Please can we have some perspective on why this happened before other fixes to the CoP?

Saturday was mostly the result of inexperience which this guide is here to alleviate. Granted it is no subsitute for actual experience though.

Tonight is a villain side CoP hope to see many people there.

I have been doing the 4 nukes method and with all other bios being dropped when the shield is down the first time. and it has been working well. I do it this way because I find it easier to just dump all the buff ones first than trying to designate when each drop should happen. Im sure its overkill and could be better balanced but I do it just for ease of PuGs. Last Saturdays run saw us with onlt 3 bio nukes and 1 chem nuke so that really turned that area of the strategy into a moot point.

Thanks for the updated version Bayne. Have not been feeling to well recently. So for my next task Id like to see if there is any connection between the obilesks and which AV is spawned. If people can note which obilesk goes down first and last and which AV spawns maybe we can see if it is connected or if it is tryely random. I remember my last try the final Obilesk to drop was Dispair and we got Big Red

Yeah good luck with that. Id pay 500mil max but if your going to be greedy I can only say good luck...

All valid points. My worry on the Storm AV is more putting in the effort and hitting that brick wall will be a major turn off for people joining the CoP for the first time. The complete lack of rewards unless you win is already quite a turn off to doing more than one pass at it. Right now people want to go in get the badge and thats all. Getting people interested in doing it for the unique factor is much more a problem. While some people hit a brick wall and thats what will push them to retrying I find most people want the satisfaction of winning and that is part of the draw.

I have been trying to be the leader for the CoP. Its still new and getting people interested is where we are with it now so i hesitate to say that im like the offical leader. Time and interest willing We will start doing these weekly.

Just to amend. I am the one that sets the place to meet, forms the teams, and yells things in request. If that is what you are asking...

Little rocky but got Big Red and he died well. Good job everyone and thanks Defenders of Paragon for the use of your base.

Our first regularly scheduled hero CoP is tonight hope to see many people showing up in IP around 6pst 9est

They have the ability to switch places. Why we assign by direction.

I got invited to a MoBSF tonight and its the one badge i need so going to miss out tonight...Sorry to anyone who wanted to join tonight. We will be doing it next week again. Saturday should still be on for a Hero run...

Thanks. I think at the moment most people here on Virtue are looking for the badge as the IoP or Merits are less then astounding. This makes teams less than perfect.

I would like to see a good way to deal with the Storm with these teams that are showing up. So far as I mentioned the issues I have run into are:
The AVs auras, their debuffs damage, ability to hit through the bubble, and size.

The Ice Storm, its size and DoT damage can take down quite a few targets and without a Dark thats quite some work to get everyone back up.

The unmanagable agro from the AV which i will also ad to it he has a massive attack range on his single target so moving him from where he stands is not easy.

I too would like to not need any Nukes or Shivs to do this. For Big Red they arent needed but I offer up the strategy to make it go faster/easier. For the Storm AV it comes down to dealing with the issues I outlined above. I have seen issue when taking down the respawn because of the AVs hurricane stopping people from hitting the spawn near the cube he starts at. The major part of the CoP is making sure you get the respawns each and every time. If you miss one time the regen on the AV becomes an issue.

Also would love to see a perma held Aspect CoP but that will have to come later ^_^

*sigh* A mix bag of AT with or without IOs. No specfic power coralation (ie No mass of X ability like everyone with Tactics) No stacked Veng. I will even give the bonus of The team is all on the same SG and has played with eachother often so they are familiar with each other.

My questions come from How do you deal with the massive debuff and damage of the Storm AVs auras? How Do you recover from when the AV drops a ice storm that pretty much decimates the entire area? And How do you deal with unmanagable agro because the AV is untauntable with his shield up? I know the AV is weak to holds only has 50 mag protection in triangle mode. This doesnt mean most teams that are Pugs can gather enough controllers/Dominators to do this.

I know you may not see yourself as an expert Amygdala but gathering the information from what you do know might help formulate a better strategy for the Storm AV or may confirm the status of too hard for a PuG at this point. I would like to hear what you have as of now.

Im quite done with you Champion people. It is quite obvious that you have no intention of doing anything helpful in this thread and are only here to wave your e-peen around. Either offer up strategies that would help or you can stop responding.

And yet you wont say anythig beyond it happened why dont you expand on how? How can what you did be reproduced by other teams or can it even be done by normal teams?

Also I would like to note this Guide is to encourage people to not only join CoP but encourage the server to start running more semi and full PuG runs of this trial. This guide is ment to be easy and allow anyone to read and employee the methods to run their own CoP. I dont disbelieve the Storm AV isnt killable but on a semi or fully PuG run he is just not something worth the groups time.