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sure, organise a ttime, date and level range, those with toons will come, those below will try to be ready or lackey and those above who can be arsed will malefactor

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Thunderstrike is a powerful hit.
Slot it 3dmg, 1 acc, 2 recred, then go nuts on folk!

Slotting for Disorient and KB is something iv contemplated myself, but seeing as though enough of the effects are being stacked, they seem pretty firm out of the box.

And also we'r not looknig to "control" the mobs as much as whack them with a big hurt stick.

Blaster = dmg dmg dmg dmg dmg, anyway, anyhow, anywhere, anytime. Remember that and you'll do fine

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Powers like TS want to hit hard and often, so ac dmg and recred, personally i go 2 acc 1 recred 3 dmg because i a) PvP and b) fight +2/3s solo so need to the reliability. in the elec set its best to focus on one aspec per power, so dmg for the melees, hold for the holds and drains for the drain, if you take LC go 2 acc 3 recred, if you want the extra KB or stun then slot it, but i wouldnt as the slots are needed elsewhere. with your fire primary you may want some KB and disdur in LC but as i said, i wouldnt. as u are not elec primary it is less of a melee issue, but elec elec and elec in generaly is melee centric due to the PBAoEs, so KB = bad in a lot of circumstances, but not all. hope this helps

if u really wana pwn then go elec elec or elec nrg

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good blasters will kill most things faster than most other ATsexpecially in smaller spawns and lower levels.

true what is said bout iam and BU, they are what makes blasters better DDs than scrappers, no point making a blaster as a DD if you dont take these pwoers imo.

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i wrote this when my net was down, so if its on the wrong thread shoot me XD

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Slot it 3dmg, 1 acc, 2 recred, then go nuts on folk!

Slotting for Disorient and KB is something iv contemplated myself, but seeing as though enough of the effects are being stacked, they seem pretty firm out of the box.

And also we'r not looknig to "control" the mobs as much as whack them with a big hurt stick.

Blaster = dmg dmg dmg dmg dmg, anyway, anyhow, anywhere, anytime. Remember that and you'll do fine

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Powers like TS want to hit hard and often, so ac dmg and recred, personally i go 2 acc 1 recred 3 dmg because i a) PvP and b) fight +2/3s solo so need to the reliability. in the elec set its best to focus on one aspec per power, so dmg for the melees, hold for the holds and drains for the drain, if you take LC go 2 acc 3 recred, if you want the extra KB or stun then slot it, but i wouldnt as the slots are needed elsewhere. with your fire primary you may want some KB and disdur in LC but as i said, i wouldnt. as u are not elec primary it is less of a melee issue, but elec elec and elec in generaly is melee centric due to the PBAoEs, so KB = bad in a lot of circumstances, but not all. hope this helps

if u really wana pwn then go elec elec or elec nrg

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Last night we beat down some baddies on the 25-30 SF (not sure who gives it), it was Mars, Spider, Keith, X and I, egen was gonna come but wasntpaying attention . Anyways, awesome SF, the last room has great gfx and mobs, recommend u do it, im up for it again

So what next?

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TIME FOR MORE BASE RAMBLINGS!!!

OK so: we have lots and lots of prestige now, just under 3 Mp on CoH and about 3.5 Mp on CoV. THIS IS TEH AWESOME! WD ALL! but how to spend it i hear you say? well, my initial plan (and i iwil do this if no one bothers to talk to me about it) is to install an Autonomous Expert System (AES) in place of the main frame and a Turbine Generator in place of the basic Gen (CoV arcane equivalents), this will put us in the region of control and power output we need to permanently have all tp pads up, a few crafting tables and enough left over to run some weapons!!! woooo etc. prob is, hero side we have only 1 room that will allow only 2 defences, on CoV we have nothing. secure rooms are uber expensive compared to the standard ones, although a secure plot is 11 Mp, this means defence capability in all rooms, but obviously we dont have that much prestige, and arent likely to for a few months (if we are on a plot that costs 1 Mp and want one that costs 3 Mp we only have to pay the difference btw).

so my point is, what do we want, do we want to head towards a larger base with less defences, but enough control to power more work stations etc, or do we want to stay on the current plot and try to start to go less decorative more PvP/raidish? personally im thinking same plot more power more defences etc. also do we want more storage (we can have a bit more yet but not too much more), im talking enh storage.. which leads me to my next point...

ENHANCEMENT STORAGE TABLES
great job by some of you, really putting yourselves out by adding TOs to 20, DOs to 30 and SO ASAP (all as you see best fit though really), it's nice when i look through the logs to see that people are actually getting some use of the enhs that are added. what is NOT nice is 2 things; 1stly that some people are not adding anything to the base storage, not ever. "WHY?" i hear you say, well i dont know tbph, i understnd that on some teams you dont want to break from the XP and dont have time to get in the base, but surely once per log in isnt too much to ask, just the SOs or DOs if you're lower down the levels, on this same point, you cant possibly need the inf.. we have bajillions on heroes and millions on villains. 2ndly, and this really does my head in!, i do check the logs of who takes what from the base, and mostly its all good, although i notice sometimes people seem to think it's ok to take from the storage but never add, i find this to be more true for the enhs than the salv, we are damned good with the salv hording, although i see only a half a dozne names ever adding enhs. if you dont want to add any enhs to the base, please let me know why as there may be some perfectly good reason, or maybe there isnt. this leads to my next point

SG COMMUNICATION IS [censored] POOR
i know more people read this thread than post on it regularly, i'm not totally stupid, although i do practice daily, I want the quite simple feat of everyone reading the thread at least once per day, and if they play less than once per day, then once per time they can play, its pnly fair. 'BUT WHY?' i hear you say, because the MotD IS NOT LONG ENOUGH TO COMMUNICATE 600+ MAN HOURS PER WEEK OF PLAYING! Abu is pressing to organise more SFs TFs and trials and i am trying to, with the help of everyone else, but when people dont know about it, it wont happen. so comments like 'did you see that thing we are planning for thursday' in sg caht are most welcome. For those that think its too much to read, why do you think we don't have a forum?, if you want a lot to read then we can set one up and you can get truely lost, its hard enough for a handful of us to run an SG without people not paying attention (as i so often do with keith lol). which leads to my next point... If no one can be arsed to read the thread who doesnt anyway, is there any reason we that do shouldnt get a forum with a front page, would make my life easier tbh, although i am REALLY trying to keep it to one thread so that people can play the game more and have to read less.

THE ARCANENESS OF THE VG BASE
right, well as u may have noticed the VG base is far from arcane, i propose trashing all the tech items and remaking them as arcane, this will cost no extra prest although we will effectively lose tech salvage (no biggy imo) and will have to use more arc salv. any objections/better ideas please let either me or mcx or another leader knwo so we can hear you out. the only plan for villain defs so far is 1 whole sapper by X, so please dont make any, but you kneow not to make stuff already right, cos u read that post ages ago about it

there was something else i meant to say but can't really remember right now (edit remembered, its above now). if this all comes across as stroppy it's cos a) im stroppy b) its hot c) ive had a long day at work d) i have a headache e) i had to see an ex todaay which was oh so fun f) i havent had a meal all day and g) because i have said most of this before and i am doing a combo of preaching to the converted and talking to myself (as in readers and non readers).

to the SF

edit 2: and now to commemerate the end of a dark age in my life, im gonna eat whats left of my ex's easter egg

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i cant tell anyone where to put one character, nevermind 24 of them, but each player is only 1 person, and until now, Sin, G, Mars and more recently MCX, and of course myself, have always been one SG type people, i think it's more the change of the norm that bothers me, not that you would put toons in other places, for people like keith and coin i see how and why it happens, although they are not leaders in the SG, and this is part of the reason, amongst various other things.

Sin and Mace are only 'SGless' as far as i understand it in the same capacity as a handful of my own alts are not in SGs, when they are played they get added, this is what we have been doing. as much as it is a pain in the [censored] it is the only way to be efficient, i never ask the 50s or the mains to leave, but we cant secure places for over 200 toons without losing out on base related content, which i would personally like to promote and i also thought/think that it's important to a lot of the SG, i would love to see a large base with 5 IoPs pushing mez resist and xp rates. Like i said, its more that you, Sin, dont see things tehe way i do or understand what i mean sometimes, and i just dont want to see things falling apart due to split loyalties, 1 reason i dont spread my alts around, i have too much on with the 1 SG, its like what do i say to Dreamer when she is on Emily with the LL and i need an empath badly for something and they need her to blast or something, i have always tried to avoid situations where these decisions have to be made, and as a joint leader i feel i cant spread myself too thinly.
On the new player front, its great to see new people, if i personally meet them and they are cool i try and get them interested in the SG, i would rather do that than try and divide my time, something I know im personally incapable of. As for the language, i have almost never felt that you being dutch got in the way of anything, ur english is awesome and i wouldnt mind if people babbled all sorts of languages in the sg chats, i do it dar kand sender if i get chance, but hey i suck at languages compared to them, u, spider and egen. cambo must find it hard being from the other side of the planet tho .

im not sure your 3rd paragraph made sense to me XD

inf/prestige issue we have had out and i've said fair enough, although if u want to make one toon to 50 solo thats cool, but if ur alts dont matter then let us help if u need it i've never been too proud to ask for some help, hell i'm one of the crappest players we have, for sure.and we already covered the not in SG topic, alts or mains or 50s or whatever, if you, Sin, or anyone else, ha access to 2 accounts and invite privelages on both accounts then i dont see any realy problems. as a rule people need to be more on the ball with their alting, alts are good i wont deny, but burning away prestige is frustrating, at best, for me and many others im sure, when we would all like to see results over weeks and months, not months and years. all said and done i dont plan to leave any time soon, love u all too much, stroppy as i may seem : / .

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For the respec, my toons that need respec are still not 24 yet, those above it (only 2 atm) dont really need it. Exemped they become pretty wuss too.

I probably be on heroes, teaming with this SG sinergy joined yesterday.

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1) its a lysosome HO

2) not really neding a respec is no good reason to not help poeple

3) just out of interest, when we have some kind of IoP/live raid session and need your blaster who just happens to be rediculously powerful in PvE and PvP, what are you planning to do?

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i wouldnt get assault, i wouldnt slot disdur or KB in any of ur powers, i wouldnt slot endmod into your only hold, i would take char, i would put 3 recred in power sink not 1, i would try to fit aid self in the build, i would take a travel power that allowed vertical travel, especially for pvp - i advise CJ/SJ/Acro

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It's no use to me, you can fight Keith for it

Don't forget, SF tonight at 7

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Last night we handed the pwnstix to teh respecz0r, not sure what tonight, we'll see when we're on

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Hehe don't worry Plight - the PB is providing a little "light relief" when the blaster is having trouble finding a team, or if i'm bored of the other 15 alts that I have lol.

You can rest assured that Amazon Thunder is now my "main" since Tiger hit 50. At 39 atm.. and salivating at the prospect of leccy epic sets already

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only really worth the shield and the hold imo though

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clicky

you wanted SG/VG action, i bring to you... an attempt to get some

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P.S. this isnt about XP, this is about fun, we have all ground for god knows how long already

Helloooo, glad to see the thread isn't dead. I would like to do an SF, i'm happy to do whichever, i propose if we can get a team of 5 or so for a level 33 ish one then I can use my main, although I'm happy to do the 1st 1 or 2 with my Brute if mars does (unless i exemp then I'm happy to use him anyways), the 1st respec would be a good plan!

Im planning on doing this weds 26 July 2006 at 7 pm BST, if anyone wants to join please post here, i am also willing to do an impromptu one tonight (25/7) at about 8-9 pm when i get home from work/pub.

keep up the good work, what most of you dont know is that the VG is about 1 position behind the SG in prestige earning on the server ranks

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personally i rate fire over ice in teams and vice versa in duels, sonic has far more utility than fire although im not sure what the duration of the debuffs is to really get the use out of them. my next blaster if i ever make one will be sonic/nrg, good AoE mez and ST secondary with self buffs.

but tbh, i still rate elec over all sets in pve, nothing compares to it imo, it has more win buttons for PvE than u can shake a stick at.

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Just so that he reads the forums more there is a post just for spork. Spork u truely wpnz meh! i admit it

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FB, genius

Sin,as i said, xp ho! although true, the villains lacked corruptors and brutes, i think 16 villains would round it off better, but it seems 8 heroes are much stronger than 8 villains. THINK TEAM! THINK BUFFS!

MCX thoughts on the base raid from any1 else? it does seem the hero base was harder to infiltrate this time. ON THIS NOTE i would like to say thankyou to those who stuck it out and sorry to those who felt they had to leave, i know it sucks losing, but we need the practice as we are far from uber, VERY FAR, even me, i only duel usually. A CLASSIC EXAMPLE of why we need practice is 6 heroes not joining the raid event, now i know its cool this time, but things like that are bye bye IoP later and not only IoP... but bye bye months of prestige to fixc the base if it is knackered it live raids, i dont want any1s hard work wasting away if possible .

MM was almost good in KotH but we do need a tank i thinks, empath would help no end and i think the troller is better than the MM but not 100% sure mcx, as for tanking u could take both taunts, although the AoE one may draw too much aggro, u need to test it, or get both, taunt is killer in PvP and PvE as we know.

Thanks all for the base raid, im not sure when to have the next one, I'm thinking sunday but i want some feedback, should we try a wednesday? week wednesday would be the next weds thats suitable, or do we not care for the raids? or should we just get some raids with other SGs?? i need some feedback, PMs, emails, posts are all good.

Meddler and Lasher (mars) have put some inf up for grabs on CoV, so if u need some help ask them, although im sure you can remember to STILL SELL WHAT THE SG DOESNT NEED AND PUT USEFUL STUFF IN THE BASE!!!!!! pls dont be greedy, there are a handful of SOs in the base for science and i know there have been more drops, teamwork ppl, teamwork

Some awesome teaming over the 2x XP weekend, thanks to all who lackeyed me and sorry to those i didnt get to team with, truely fun when a group is going, i hope that this makes us want to play as a tighter unit and get levelling groups going more often , but remember to read ur arcs and take breaks, dont want an unhealthy/mindnumbed sg!



carry on, wuv jo0 all

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guess ur right gatling : / but i still have never seen anything stand in the middle of 99% of the mobs in the game and be safe without even having to think too hard (SC+PS), although PB + holds in PvP is nice too i guess. and the 4th elec melee is high dmg med drain, which is something to shout about imo if you are going melee (which most blasters sort of do).

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PB!!!? get that blaster up to 50 man! my PB needs a team at 41

grats mate, i barely know u but a top guy who can take a comment as intended methinks, always let me know if u need help, the worst tht can happen is im busy

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teh awesomez!

ubergrats icey, long time coming and well played. although we rarely see one another in game u know u can always call on me and the SG (if theyre not busy pwning eachother or something). same goes for u poppa bear, i miss my oldest friends, i should arrange a reunion, but not on union, a redefiantion!!

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The currently FotYear PvP Blaster is Ice/Energy. Ice is the highest ST damage dealer from the primary, and Energy from the Secondary, taking down a Tank pretty quickly. And for tough Corruptors/Stalkers that you can't seem to get with your damage, you can stack all your Holds (from Ice) and Stuns (from Energy) until they are still/detoggled, leaving them open for a 2 shot







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actually elec ahs the highest st damage in melee range, enerergy melee wins because it has better self buffs.

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wrong (bonesmasher and havoc punch are the same tho hero planner says not)..elec has 1 melee move more (final one forgot the name lol)..but TF is more SINGLE target damage then TS (this is tested)...

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/elec blaaaaaatantly outdamages /nrg, lightning field = perma DoT in mobs if you want it, shocking grasp is high DoT and medium (25) end drain over time, afaik the other 3 melees cost less endurance (and have chance to recover end bar TS) and TS is a PBAoE splash damager, so in groups does far more than TF, and it has enough KB to KB a boss with standard resists (not rularuu but will do warhulks) and a chance to stun up to mag 2 (aout 60% i think) and about 60% to KB surrounding foes, so yes, TS does more dmg than TF, although you wont be using this power in a herd centric group.

also clex, if going melee elec is far safer, true that /nrg does good damage, but it offers less control, and no melee blasters need boost range afaik, and PS > CP in both PvE and PvP, although it comes at 35 not 18.. btw /fire gets consume (PS) at 28 iirc.

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so i wrote this long reply at work, but then had to kinda delete it. so in brief

fire/ cant solo as well as ice/ but ice/ has nothing on fire/ for larger teams

AR and dev are fun but weak, i cannot reiterate this enough, AR and dev are SUB PAR and WEAK.

/ice lacks the uber dmg although slow is nice, but hard to judge when ur enemies are going to attack as u cant see their recharges

/fire is great dmg, pretty big melee as u would expect but totally useless in most solo ur duel scenarios

energy/ is a KB nightmare for teams imo, not worth the animations for the dmg and has essentially no utility in PvP (KB means nothing vs acro as we well know)

/nrg is great but totally self buff/melee stun orientated, CP is nice in PvE but wont make staminalessness vialble in PvP, the powers also use more end than is reasonable imo (compare to elec).

/elec has the uber dmg, holds, sleeps, stuns, KBs and drains, this set does what the other sets do and is very team friendly with easy to avoid KB and good support.

sonic/ is a great set imo although not awesome at AoE dmg imo it is agreat solo set, the animations and sfx let it down, but my next blaster is/will be sonic/nrg, i'd pick elec elec, but i did that already... 4 times

archery/ is very fun imo, although it doesnt offer much in the way of uberness in either PvP or PvE

imho and imxp elec/elec is the strongest blaster, although it may take a little longer to develop, if you focus on any one aspect you can do your job early on. it has most of the damage of fire but with less chance of dying, is friendly to empaths and kins alike as it is meleecentric and doesnt require kiting, it has sleeps holds KBs stuns drains and more utility than you can shake a stick at and well, tbh i just dont think there is a better choice. i could happily solo lvl 50 invince (actually went invince early on but didnt solo much til late) without hasten or stamina with almost no downtime and i didnt even use pools much (only had tp and presence and it was rare that i used either in PvE).

if you want to see an elec smash things up then give me a shout, i'm always happy to demonstrate why it;s the best all rounder

oh and fun, well for me personally in 2 years i've racked up over 3k hours on elec blasters, so yeah, i think it's fun

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well of course! whats more better than a selfrezzing KB'ing a large group that was on top yer, giving ye enough time to fly away!

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Some comments:

- You need 3 damage enhances in your attacks (much more important than rchg or slows)
- CE needs endreds (e.g. 2 endred / 2 slows)
- CJ: def is minimal, slot for jump
- SJ: 3 jumps is too much (even for PvP)
- Health: not really worth it for squishies, but if you really want to take it, don't waste slots on it
- Aim: 1-2 ThT_Buf are enough, and that's really if you want to PvP (same with BU)
- Ice Patch: 1-2 rchgs is better slotting
- Try to take Stamina earlier (before BU) and if possible, Hasten
- Acrobatics: slot endred
- Freezing Touch: I would slot 1-2 acc 2-3 holds
- Frozen Aura: as I said, I would take Shiver instead, but try it and see what you think

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let the pwnage commence for anther day!

egen, have a nice meal, no rush mate, theyll be more, but KotH would be nice to see u

cambo have a nice bbq1 (pls rain before 7)

sin, xp ho!

mcxi dont think 1 lvl will make too much diff

FB, also stands for, um, fabulous barbecue

and i think thats about it.

oh and btw, if EVERY read this thread once a day that's in the SG i'm sure we would have far more views, but it's not important... *has secretly been thinking about a forum due to discussion with mcx about the bases*

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fire, that means 3,000,000 prestige = autonomous expert system + turbine generator. 10 x more trol and energy than we currently have and enough to start thinkiong about defences (not that we have more than 1 def ready room in 2 bases).

spork, yeah true, nvm eh.

Dark infinityyyyy, np mate, we totally understand, pls let us know how u get on with ur results tho! good to travel to see mates, i was planning on it myself today but didnt happen : /, also, if u get kicked by accident cos i see uve been off for ages and am half asleep sorry, u know it doesnt mean ur out of the SG. tell ur house mates to sort their Sg toons too, dont think ive een them recently :s

take care all

and dont forget the raid tomorrow at 7 and KotH at 9 30

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